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« on: June 13, 2016, 03:41:42 PM »
i dunno why but this band strikes me as the best of the "progressive melodeath" bands like Be'Lakor and In Mourning.
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« on: June 13, 2016, 02:33:02 PM »
dunno why everyone has strong opinions about them either way, i guess it's just the prominence of their marketing
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« on: June 13, 2016, 06:54:26 AM »
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« on: June 13, 2016, 06:34:00 AM »
they're not my thing personally cus the separation of the elements of their sound is too clear. it's a nice idea but the components don't gel
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« on: June 03, 2016, 04:04:08 PM »
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« on: May 27, 2016, 12:07:38 PM »
are you doing player teams as with some of the older versions? I can't be bothered to make MWs and LWs
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« on: May 24, 2016, 05:31:07 AM »
Still having trouble getting used to Zenyatta, any general tips? Largely maining Mercy right now, gotta love da support.
Keep back at a range where you can stay alive because your mobility is too awful to handle 1v1s. Ideally pick a large group and stick with them, and keep to using your debuff at long range and harass large enemies. Zenyatta's damage output isn't actually that bad and he's quite accurate but in close 1v1s he's really awful, so stick to those longer ranges. Always keep healing someone and stay in a range where you can support as many different units as possible.
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« on: May 24, 2016, 05:03:52 AM »
Got more time to spend on other characters besides Zenyatta now. Still super fun.
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« on: May 19, 2016, 07:22:45 AM »
Was at this one for the day 2 evening event. Was very good, seems to have come a long way in terms of production values from the last one I saw which must have been in 2012 or something like that
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« on: May 16, 2016, 04:01:14 PM »
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« on: May 16, 2016, 08:25:37 AM »
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« on: May 15, 2016, 10:55:21 AM »
yeh their style is pretty weird and kinda not my thing but i can appreciate it a lot and it's almost always super catchy. also pretty heavy at times like on Room 24 which makes sense cus the main dude's previous band Dominus was pretty meaty
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« on: May 13, 2016, 04:40:22 PM »
now I think Volbeat's always done that style way better and more "maturely" than anyone else, cool band
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« on: May 10, 2016, 12:42:13 PM »
You really can't call any music objectively bad. I mean, I guess you can but there's no real point. If someone enjoys a song, can it even be bad? I like some really "bad" artists, and dislike a lot of "good" music by "better" artists. Music is too subjective to be called objectively good or bad.
I think a lot of music leaves ideas too undeveloped or can be written in a way that contrasts with its core themes or principles. Hard to say otherwise, but I think there is an objective element when it comes to discussion within genre vs out of genre. Can't call an entire genre bad but you could say that old Kendrick is worse than new Kendrick and so on.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 11:39:17 AM »
I think people are more likely in this day and age to be attracted to a band which attempts to push their own limits or practice a certain musical vision
I really do not think so. When I listen to music, I don't care how difficult it was to perform or how diverse it is from the 'mainstream', just as long as it sounds good, I'm fine and I think that's what any average music listener looks for, too. If it was difficult to perform but doesn't sound as good as that other band that make it look easy, I don't care. Complexity or innovation just doesn't matter to me or the average Joe.
With me it's a balance. Technicality for technicality's sake is boring, hence why a boring band like Brain Drill does nothing for me and why I can't appreciate John Scofield compared to other artists of his ilk, but I'd rather have something which I feel like had some thought put into it. I'm all for catchy music but it can't be a crutch for a lack of actual ideas or songwriting chops.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 11:22:13 AM »
Forgive me for not knowing what you mean by self-awareness, in this situation. Also, I highly doubt most of their fans are <16 because they have been on a fairly long hiatus. And, ~16 is probably around the time when people start getting into metal, so of course they'll be attracted to the generic famous bands like Disturbed.
Most of the people I know who liked Hollywood Undead did so when they were 13 or 14, and have moved on. It is true that bands like Disturbed are "gateway" bands in a sense, but people don't generally keep listening to them; I listened to Disturbed when I was 12 or so and stopped when I listened to less stripped down, simplified metal. Not even to say that the Nu-metal genre has nothing to offer because as mentioned prior, Deftones is definitely a band I would describe as accomplished and musically interesting. It really comes down to the intent of the band, which is normally reflected in the music. I think people are more likely in this day and age to be attracted to a band which attempts to push their own limits or practice a certain musical vision than one that vies for the exact mainstream of the metal scene, hence why people often drift back to classic albums of the genre and bands that expand on the same ideas or ones that are at the cutting edge. Hollywood Undead have always struck me as a band that sought to tap into the trends popular with a specific audience and deliver them at a level which requires the minimum level of thought possible to put in for maximum possible enjoyment out, which stops working a lot of the time.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 11:05:25 AM »
I understand that I probably should have not stated my opinion so bluntly, so I'm sorry about that. Also, I can't focus on the lyrics because the way the vocalist sounds makes me want to commit, not to mention that the way he is singing is making his words near incomprehensible, too. Lyrics aren't that important to me, anyway. As long as the music sounds good, including how the vocalist sounds (not what he is actually saying), I'm fine with it. I'm sure that, if I put emphasis on lyrics, I'd really dislike HU but I also think I'd be better suited to poetry :P
I hope you're not labeling my music taste childish because of the lyrics of their songs (mostly HU, I imagine) because I don't care about them.
Well, I mean to an extent I am I guess? It's also their near total lack of self awareness and the fact that indeed most of their fans are people < 16. It's like listening to Sachiko M but you can't make a joke out of your life afterwards on social media.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 10:49:27 AM »
I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.
I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw.
How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?
Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.
we scratch each other's backs because we like music that isn't garbage. apparently you like music that is garbage which is cool i guess
also i'm pretty sure the consensus is very much the opposite of it being rubbish:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/05/05/vektor-terminal-redux-make-space-great/ (4.5/5)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21645-vektor-terminal-redux/ (8.2/10)
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Vektor/Terminal_Redux/562580/cytoSiN/306929 (97/100)
http://themetalist.net/album-review-vektor-terminal-redux/ ("A truly fantastic and quintessentially unique listen")
honestly though if you like Hollywood Undead and Disturbed past the age of about 13 you need to get out more
Woah, I didn't want a full blown argument. I said it was a rubbish just because I don't like it. I don't think anything said in a music thread has to be prefaced by 'imo' because music is all opinion based.
I think it's rich to say that listening to Disturbed past the age of 13 is bad when you're listening to a song that is similar in genre but with an incomprehensible vocalist that sounds like he's having a mental breakdown.
Firstly, this is the MusicATM thread. Normally nobody voices that kind of opinion in this thread, and actual criticism of songs is done in Rate One, Post One cus that's the whole point of that thread. I'm not sure that really suggests anything about whether it's immature or whatnot. Harsh vocals are pretty much just a musical tool used for a different purpose to regular singing, much like rapping or even yodeling or something. Also I'm pretty sure a comparison between the lyrics of both bands shows enough of a difference of intent to distance them sufficiently in my mind. Disturbed haven't had critical acclaim in the best part of 10 years, because they basically capitalized on the Nu-metal boom that bands like Deftones grew up from and other bands have crashed and burned with.
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« on: May 10, 2016, 10:28:23 AM »
I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.
I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw.
How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?
Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.
we scratch each other's backs because we like music that isn't garbage. apparently you like music that is garbage which is cool i guess also i'm pretty sure the consensus is very much the opposite of it being rubbish: http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/05/05/vektor-terminal-redux-make-space-great/ (4.5/5) http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21645-vektor-terminal-redux/ (8.2/10) http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Vektor/Terminal_Redux/562580/cytoSiN/306929 (97/100) http://themetalist.net/album-review-vektor-terminal-redux/ ("A truly fantastic and quintessentially unique listen") honestly though if you like Hollywood Undead and Disturbed past the age of about 13 you need to get out more
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« on: May 09, 2016, 10:30:17 AM »
I find music on Spotify and then buy it on iTunes or on CD if I like it enough.
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