Author Topic: The virus thread (Read 6873 times)

Pwnator · « **Reply #20 on:** February 17, 2012, 05:27:10 AM »

Quote from: Doomkiller on February 17, 2012, 04:50:02 AM

Quote from: Pwnator on February 17, 2012, 04:47:24 AM
All I know as I can make a simple program that continuously forks itself and slows the whole system down.
An infinite loop?

Yep. Until the system can't take it anymore and freezes. We were required to find out how many times it forked before it froze. IIRC it was in quintuple digits.

Doomkiller · « **Reply #21 on:** February 17, 2012, 05:41:22 AM »

Quote from: Pwnator on February 17, 2012, 05:27:10 AM

Quote from: Doomkiller on February 17, 2012, 04:50:02 AM
Quote from: Pwnator on February 17, 2012, 04:47:24 AM
All I know as I can make a simple program that continuously forks itself and slows the whole system down.
An infinite loop?

Yep. Until the system can't take it anymore and freezes. We were required to find out how many times it forked before it froze. IIRC it was in quintuple digits.

Try it on a 128 bit processor :D

Scourge of teh Galaxy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 17, 2012, 05:53:17 AM »

A virus can be downloaded into your computer's memory via an infected file. That is the only way, unless you create it yourself. It may create or infect programs and files, but it in itself is just code

Quote from: Team 9 on February 17, 2012, 05:00:20 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8A9USuyOU&feature=related#

discuss

Finally. This virus is hilarious

Chaosmancer · « **Reply #23 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:05:34 AM »

Quote from: Scourge of teh Galaxy on February 17, 2012, 05:53:17 AM

A virus can be downloaded into your computer's memory via an infected file. That is the only way, unless you create it yourself. It may create or infect programs and files, but it in itself is just code

That can be said for anything though. Any program is code that is a sequence of instructions, when those instructions are executed in some way, it will make some change to the computer. And if you still don't believe me, I asked my dad about it to make sure I wasn't being a bigger idiot than normal.

<My Name> says (12:02)
Is a virus a computer program?
<Dad's Name> says (12:02)
yes generally speaking
but then computer program is a loose term
technically a script is a computer program

Scourge of teh Galaxy · « **Reply #24 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:09:06 AM »

I'm meaning computer program as in application. You know, .exe files and the like. Those are program files. Viruses aren't programs in that sense

Doomkiller · « **Reply #25 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:26:35 AM »

They are however, still programs

Scourge of teh Galaxy · « **Reply #26 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:28:18 AM »

If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3

Anyway...

Doomkiller · « **Reply #27 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:31:13 AM »

Quote from: Scourge of teh Galaxy on February 17, 2012, 06:28:18 AM

If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

Yes and No.

Yes, they are programs because of that and being executed by the computer, but no, not all viruses need other files in order to work, most of them just use that in order to be downloaded onto a computer without being seen, and to be disguised. Like a soldier wearing camo. Isn't particularly needed, and can still be a soldier with camo, but usually helps.

Team 9 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:32:35 AM »

Quote from: Scourge of teh Galaxy on February 17, 2012, 06:28:18 AM

If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3

Anyway...

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ambulance virus, attaches itself to .COM files, and runs a visual of an ambulance crashing each time they are run. it is designed to work on DOS.

Badger · « **Reply #29 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:36:39 AM »

Does anyone have a virus that I can give to my friend for a laugh? Not something that will damage his computer, just something that will scare him, the go away after a reboot.

Scourge of teh Galaxy · « **Reply #30 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:38:41 AM »

Quote from: Doomkiller on February 17, 2012, 06:31:13 AM

Quote from: Scourge of teh Galaxy on February 17, 2012, 06:28:18 AM
If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

Yes and No.

Yes, they are programs because of that and being executed by the computer, but no, not all viruses need other files in order to work, most of them just use that in order to be downloaded onto a computer without being seen, and to be disguised. Like a soldier wearing camo. Isn't particularly needed, and can still be a soldier with camo, but usually helps.

Question is, why do you think virus was the term given to it? If you look into most viruses, in order to become resident, they need to attach themselves to a file, just like a normal virus needs to attach itself to a cell in order to become resident. Some viruses, like Creeper, create their own program, but quite a lot of them just infect other files

Quote from: Team 9 on February 17, 2012, 06:32:35 AM

Quote from: Scourge of teh Galaxy on February 17, 2012, 06:28:18 AM
If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work

I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3

Anyway...

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ambulance virus, attaches itself to .COM files, and runs a visual of an ambulance crashing each time they are run. it is designed to work on DOS.

Correctamunto. Ambulance, like ChristmasEXEC, is a pretty harmless virus, and a rather amusing one too

Quote from: TheRoyalBadger on February 17, 2012, 06:36:39 AM

Does anyone have a virus that I can give to my friend for a laugh? Not something that will damage his computer, just something that will scare him, the go away after a reboot.

What system does he use? I might be able to get you a strain of Adolph or something, but if you're wanting something obvious but harmless, I have no idea without making or modifying one

Badger · « **Reply #31 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:43:54 AM »

Vista. I guess I'll have to do some research, then.

Scourge of teh Galaxy · « **Reply #32 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:47:13 AM »

Vista? I can make a pretty harmless fake virus for that

Doomkiller · « **Reply #33 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:51:02 AM »

I'd say just let Vista do you work for you

Scourge of teh Galaxy · « **Reply #34 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:52:28 AM »

Yeah, but a Shutdown bat oughta do the trick

Team 9 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:54:37 AM »

here's something: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/four-cool-fake-windows-viruses-and-errors-to-make-your-friends-freak-out/

Scourge of teh Galaxy · « **Reply #36 on:** February 17, 2012, 06:55:47 AM »

Aye, I can make the first one.

Badger · « **Reply #37 on:** February 17, 2012, 07:11:59 AM »

Yeah, vista's pretty bad already. I have it on my laptop.

I've made a simple shutdown shortcut masquerading as an Internet browser. Not too scary, though...

Needs more popups and loading bars, though. =/

HurricaneAndrew · « **Reply #38 on:** February 17, 2012, 07:40:57 AM »

The H1N1 virus is pretty scary.

Team 9 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 17, 2012, 07:43:38 AM »

Quote from: HurricaneAndrew on February 17, 2012, 07:40:57 AM

The H1N1 virus is pretty scary.

^irrelevent post^