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Off-Topic => Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: Team 9 on February 16, 2012, 04:48:18 PM
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inspired by the various virus related posts in the general chatter thread.
examples:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1hij3Br45M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1hij3Br45M#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLt3vfevUsc&feature=relmfu# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLt3vfevUsc&feature=relmfu#)
stuff like that.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7IJHoxcNr8&feature=related#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7IJHoxcNr8&feature=related#ws)
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I always loved the look of these guys:
(http://www.mansfield.ohio-state.edu/~sabedon/em_t4.gif)
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I wanted to create this thread, because I was the one who was saying the virus stuff
Also, the ones in the OP are Trojans, not viruses. Navshield appears to be rogueware. Therefore this thread needs renaming to Trojan thread or something, so i can make a virus thread :>
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Urjak wins though
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Indeed he does. Also, you know this is in the wrong section?
My project thread is in Software and OS
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Well, sortve, A virus is software of sorts..
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Well, sortve, A virus is software of sorts..
Indeed, but it fits more in Computer and OS.
But oh well, off to continue editing my topic now I'm back in class :>
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A virus is a software, it's just one that is created for malicious intent, so technically this section is the correct place, although Computer and OS is also a correct section. Software for the fact that it is a piece of software, Computer and OS because it can damage computers and operating systems. I would say that it fits in both sections equally.
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Fair point, but my point about the stuff posted in here are not viruses still stands
Oh, and for reference, I will almost always refer to a virus as a piece of code
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Fair point, but my point about the stuff posted in here are not viruses still stands
Oh, and for reference, I will almost always refer to a virus as a piece of code
Yeah, the stuff here can be classed as malware, but due to not replicating, it can't be a virus.
I'm pretty sure that 'piece of code', 'computer program', and 'software' are all correct ways of describing a virus, of course, it probably depends on the type of virus as well.
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Fair point, but my point about the stuff posted in here are not viruses still stands
Most people do not know what the difference is though, and just call them viruses
My mum usually just says her computer was attacked with stuff that does bad things.
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All I know as I can make a simple program that continuously forks itself and slows the whole system down.
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All I know as I can make a simple program that continuously forks itself and slows the whole system down.
An infinite loop?
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Fair point, but my point about the stuff posted in here are not viruses still stands
Oh, and for reference, I will almost always refer to a virus as a piece of code
Yeah, the stuff here can be classed as malware, but due to not replicating, it can't be a virus.
I'm pretty sure that 'piece of code', 'computer program', and 'software' are all correct ways of describing a virus, of course, it probably depends on the type of virus as well.
A virus is not a computer program. It's a very common mistake to call it such, but not many viruses are actually capable of creating their own programs - Creeper is one of the few
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Definition: program: (computer science) a sequence of instructions that a computer can interpret and execute
Im pretty sure a computer executes viruses, even if they are no good.
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They execute viruses via an infected program or file
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The computer still executes them though, which is a definition of a computer program
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8A9USuyOU&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8A9USuyOU&feature=related#)
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Fair point, but my point about the stuff posted in here are not viruses still stands
Oh, and for reference, I will almost always refer to a virus as a piece of code
Yeah, the stuff here can be classed as malware, but due to not replicating, it can't be a virus.
I'm pretty sure that 'piece of code', 'computer program', and 'software' are all correct ways of describing a virus, of course, it probably depends on the type of virus as well.
A virus is not a computer program. It's a very common mistake to call it such, but not many viruses are actually capable of creating their own programs - Creeper is one of the few
A virus can be called a computer program because it is software, but one thing I do remember is that it generally comes onto your computer with a program (usually one you have downloaded), they then run their program after said file has been executed. Plus most things I looked up a while ago referred to it as a computer program, and this is because of the fact that it is a sequence of instructions that has been written to perform a certain task, and if I remember correctly, that is pretty much the definition of a computer program.
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All I know as I can make a simple program that continuously forks itself and slows the whole system down.
An infinite loop?
Yep. Until the system can't take it anymore and freezes. We were required to find out how many times it forked before it froze. IIRC it was in quintuple digits.
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All I know as I can make a simple program that continuously forks itself and slows the whole system down.
An infinite loop?
Yep. Until the system can't take it anymore and freezes. We were required to find out how many times it forked before it froze. IIRC it was in quintuple digits.
Try it on a 128 bit processor :D
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A virus can be downloaded into your computer's memory via an infected file. That is the only way, unless you create it yourself. It may create or infect programs and files, but it in itself is just code
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8A9USuyOU&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA8A9USuyOU&feature=related#)
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Finally. This virus is hilarious
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A virus can be downloaded into your computer's memory via an infected file. That is the only way, unless you create it yourself. It may create or infect programs and files, but it in itself is just code
That can be said for anything though. Any program is code that is a sequence of instructions, when those instructions are executed in some way, it will make some change to the computer. And if you still don't believe me, I asked my dad about it to make sure I wasn't being a bigger idiot than normal.
<My Name> says (12:02)
Is a virus a computer program?
<Dad's Name> says (12:02)
yes generally speaking
but then computer program is a loose term
technically a script is a computer program
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I'm meaning computer program as in application. You know, .exe files and the like. Those are program files. Viruses aren't programs in that sense
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They are however, still programs
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If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work
I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3
Anyway...
(http://www.uploadimages4free.com/upload/big/ambulance_dos_virus-12484.jpg)
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If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work
Yes and No.
Yes, they are programs because of that and being executed by the computer, but no, not all viruses need other files in order to work, most of them just use that in order to be downloaded onto a computer without being seen, and to be disguised. Like a soldier wearing camo. Isn't particularly needed, and can still be a soldier with camo, but usually helps.
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If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work
I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3
Anyway...
(http://www.uploadimages4free.com/upload/big/ambulance_dos_virus-12484.jpg)
ambulance virus, attaches itself to .COM files, and runs a visual of an ambulance crashing each time they are run. it is designed to work on DOS.
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Does anyone have a virus that I can give to my friend for a laugh? Not something that will damage his computer, just something that will scare him, the go away after a reboot.
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If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work
Yes and No.
Yes, they are programs because of that and being executed by the computer, but no, not all viruses need other files in order to work, most of them just use that in order to be downloaded onto a computer without being seen, and to be disguised. Like a soldier wearing camo. Isn't particularly needed, and can still be a soldier with camo, but usually helps.
Question is, why do you think virus was the term given to it? If you look into most viruses, in order to become resident, they need to attach themselves to a file, just like a normal virus needs to attach itself to a cell in order to become resident. Some viruses, like Creeper, create their own program, but quite a lot of them just infect other files
If you count anything written in a programming language as a program, then sure, they're programs, albeit programs that require other files in order to work
I guess my actual argument is that they're not program files. That's what I've meant from the beginning, I just refer to them as programs because I'm lazy :3
Anyway...
(http://www.uploadimages4free.com/upload/big/ambulance_dos_virus-12484.jpg)
ambulance virus, attaches itself to .COM files, and runs a visual of an ambulance crashing each time they are run. it is designed to work on DOS.
Correctamunto. Ambulance, like ChristmasEXEC, is a pretty harmless virus, and a rather amusing one too
Does anyone have a virus that I can give to my friend for a laugh? Not something that will damage his computer, just something that will scare him, the go away after a reboot.
What system does he use? I might be able to get you a strain of Adolph or something, but if you're wanting something obvious but harmless, I have no idea without making or modifying one
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Vista. I guess I'll have to do some research, then.
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Vista? I can make a pretty harmless fake virus for that
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I'd say just let Vista do you work for you
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Yeah, but a Shutdown bat oughta do the trick
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here's something: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/four-cool-fake-windows-viruses-and-errors-to-make-your-friends-freak-out/ (http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/four-cool-fake-windows-viruses-and-errors-to-make-your-friends-freak-out/)
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Aye, I can make the first one.
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Yeah, vista's pretty bad already. I have it on my laptop.
I've made a simple shutdown shortcut masquerading as an Internet browser. Not too scary, though...
Needs more popups and loading bars, though. =/
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The H1N1 virus is pretty scary.
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The H1N1 virus is pretty scary.
^irrelevent post^
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How is it irrelevent? This is the virus thead...
Also, Rhinovirus.
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How is it irrelevent? This is the virus thead...
Also, Rhinovirus.
computer virus thread. not disease.
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That is not specified in the title.
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That is not specified in the title.
if you'd bothered to read the content, you would know.
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tl;dr
I'm a lazy bastard.
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tl;dr
I'm a lazy bastard.
i've gathered that.
just read the context of a thread before going and posting in it.
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The thread should be renamed 'The Malware Thread'.
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Start being more specific with your thread names.
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OK:
'The Thread that contains discussions and information about Malware and Computer Viruses'
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Start being more specific with your thread names.
stop being so lazy
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Or maybe I should stop trolling since you seem to be too stupid to figure it out on your own.
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Or maybe I should stop trolling since you seem to be too stupid to figure it out on your own.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VX1jPamocA# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VX1jPamocA#)
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It's in Software, that's all the clue you need
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enough offtopicness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM_PDC05Y4o# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM_PDC05Y4o#)
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I haven't seen that one before. Got any information on it?
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LSD.COM virus, it infected other COM files in it's directory. and hangs the computer, and displays funky colours.
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I don't care if it hangs the computer, it's going under amusing 8D
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this guy has a lot of great stuff on old viruses and the like: http://www.youtube.com/user/danooct1?feature=watch (http://www.youtube.com/user/danooct1?feature=watch)
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The Pikachu virus is believed to be the first computer virus targeted towards children. It contains the character "Pikachu" from the Pokémon series, and is in the form of an e-mail titled "Pikachu Pokemon [sic]" with the message: "Pikachu is your friend."
When users open an attachment, an image of a pensive Pikachu appears on the screen with the ungrammatical message: "Between millions of people around the world I found you. Don't forget to remember this day every time MY FRIEND." It simultaneously sends e-mails to everyone in the user's address book, giving it the potential to spread quickly. It also adds the lines "del C:\WINDOWS" and "del C:\WINDOWS\system32" to the file "autoexec.bat", which is executed at next boot. The virus was not well coded, so it would give a prompt asking if you wanted to delete those folders.
Sounds like mailing worm
Hey guys! I found a Wabbit! You'll like this, it'll explain a lot to you
A wabbit is a type of self-replicating computer program. Unlike viruses, wabbits do not infect host programs or documents. Unlike worms, wabbits do not use network capabilities of computers to spread. Instead, a wabbit repeatedly replicates itself on a local computer. Wabbits can be programmed to have (malicious) side effects. An example of a wabbit is a fork bomb. The name "wabbit" is probably derived from Elmer Fudd's derhotic pronunciation of 'rabbit' in the Warner Brothers cartoons that featured him and Bugs Bunny. Like rabbits, these programs have an ability to multiply quickly.
This is what Creeper is, yet it's classified as a virus