The General Chatter Thread.

[NFX]

I can't stand Beiber, though. He's been so overstyled, overhyped and overmarketed, that people don't realise that he has very little musicianship, if any at all. The people who have talent are normally vastly overshadowed by the people that will sell.

[Natef]

Our school had a pep rally yesterday.

School pride decreased because of it.

[madman3]

I can't stand Beiber, though. He's been so overstyled, overhyped and overmarketed, that people don't realise that he has very little musicianship, if any at all. The people who have talent are normally vastly overshadowed by the people that will sell.

Basically, but that applies to every genre; Nickleback will always sell more than Alter Bridge even though they're both the same genre and the latter is more technically adept. That's life.

[Natef]

Drinking the kool aid much? (Not you)

I feel the same thing applies to Pokemon. The games have had little innovation over the years.

[NFX]

The core game system might not have changed (Catch -> Train -> Battle -> Repeat), but it's a tried and tested system which definitely works.

[Natef]

I see it as playing the same game from the 90's with better graphics and different Pokemon.

The Call of Duty series applies to this as well, but not as much.

[Scourge of teh Galaxy]

I see it as playing the same game from the 90's with better graphics and different Pokemon.

The Call of Duty series applies to this as well, but not as much.

Actually, the CoD series has it applied moreso. The plots are samebake, and the graphics aren't even improved on much. No real new material is added, just stuff is rehashed and sold on as a new game. At least Pokemon has new additions each Generation, even if the large percentage of them are crap

[madman3]

Drinking the kool aid much? (Not you)

I feel the same thing applies to Pokemon. The games have had little innovation over the years.

Though I can see a lot of members disagreeing, I personally feel the same way. I've never really liked them after I'd played Leaf Green (which I considered very good at the time, and I still like it now). They really haven't got anywhere IMO, they've just kept on the beaten path and now I just find the games tiring.

The core game system might not have changed (Catch -> Train -> Battle -> Repeat), but it's a tried and tested system which definitely works.

It really doesn't benefit the game IMO though. One thing it could benefit from was more interactivity, Mario and Luigi (as in Partners In Time) style. Also, a genuine twist in that system and much better levelling system (seriously, there are very few items that make it bearable to level up a party to it's fullest, and even then you may want to experiment with certain tactics which require other high level but different pokemon.)

I see it as playing the same game from the 90's with better graphics and different Pokemon.

The Call of Duty series applies to this as well, but not as much.

Actually, the CoD series has it applied moreso. The plots are samebake, and the graphics aren't even improved on much. No real new material is added, just stuff is rehashed and sold on as a new game. At least Pokemon has new additions each Generation, even if the large percentage of them are crap

Don't you fight for objectivity round here?

[Natef]

I see it as playing the same game from the 90's with better graphics and different Pokemon.

The Call of Duty series applies to this as well, but not as much.

Actually, the CoD series has it applied moreso. The plots are samebake, and the graphics aren't even improved on much. No real new material is added, just stuff is rehashed and sold on as a new game. At least Pokemon has new additions each Generation, even if the large percentage of them are crap

Plotwise, MW2 and 3 are the same, but World at War, and Black Ops had more unique plots.

[Scourge of teh Galaxy]

I see it as playing the same game from the 90's with better graphics and different Pokemon.

The Call of Duty series applies to this as well, but not as much.

Actually, the CoD series has it applied moreso. The plots are samebake, and the graphics aren't even improved on much. No real new material is added, just stuff is rehashed and sold on as a new game. At least Pokemon has new additions each Generation, even if the large percentage of them are crap

Don't you fight for objectivity round here?

Do I?

I see it as playing the same game from the 90's with better graphics and different Pokemon.

The Call of Duty series applies to this as well, but not as much.

Actually, the CoD series has it applied moreso. The plots are samebake, and the graphics aren't even improved on much. No real new material is added, just stuff is rehashed and sold on as a new game. At least Pokemon has new additions each Generation, even if the large percentage of them are crap

Plotwise, MW2 and 3 are the same, but World at War, and Black Ops had more unique plots.

Name me seven differences that doesn't include the words Nazi or zombie

[NFX]

I'll agree with you there. Once you peel away the shiny wrappers, they have basically remained the same core game underneath. But SotG is also correct, CoD has remained much more stagnant in terms of gameplay and innovations, whereas Pokemon has brought several new features and methods to fight. If you took Pokemon Red and compared it to Pokemon White, there would be a vast difference in terms of lifespan and bonus quest things. CoD, much less so.

[madman3]

I see it as playing the same game from the 90's with better graphics and different Pokemon.

The Call of Duty series applies to this as well, but not as much.

Actually, the CoD series has it applied moreso. The plots are samebake, and the graphics aren't even improved on much. No real new material is added, just stuff is rehashed and sold on as a new game. At least Pokemon has new additions each Generation, even if the large percentage of them are crap

Plotwise, MW2 and 3 are the same, but World at War, and Black Ops had more unique plots.

And they are the only two CoD games I can tolerate. Blacks Ops had a huge field of view compared to the others so it was much nicer and less focused on gawking at the mini map.

I'll agree with you there. Once you peel away the shiny wrappers, they have basically remained the same core game underneath. But SotG is also correct, CoD has remained much more stagnant in terms of gameplay and innovations, whereas Pokemon has brought several new features and methods to fight. If you took Pokemon Red and compared it to Pokemon White, there would be a vast difference in terms of lifespan and bonus quest things. CoD, much less so.

The term, "unentertaining replay value" applies to Pokemon far too heavily IMO. It's not very strong in any sidequest area, so the bits after the league are basically stagnant or repetitive and time consuming training. Skyrim manages sidequests brilliantly, but not one Pokemon sidequest has impressed me, ever.

[Scourge of teh Galaxy]

Pokemon gets boring after you defeat the E4. It has no replay value

[madman3]

In addition, I have felt no desire to play a Pokemon game from the start twice. Games like Okami and Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess made me play several times over (I've probably completed Okami around 5 times).

[Natef]

These are all I thought up:

-Black Ops went in the style of flashbacks, a first for the series up until MW3.
-Black Ops also has more fictional elements than the other games (Nova 6 is a great example)
- World at War was the first in the series to take place in the Pacific "theater" of WWII
- Also, Black Ops had the appearances of important political figures like Fidel Castro and JFK.
-World at War was also the darkest CoD game, as it had the most swearing, gore, a serious tone, and if you look at the visuals, they are very gloomy compare to the other games in the series.

[Natef]

As much as I like it, it is fun to rip on it in front of fanboys at my school.

[Chaosmancer]

Pokemon gets boring after you defeat the E4. It has no replay value

Unless you make different challenges for yourself. Like use of a level 100 Magikarp. But it is rather easy when you have six level 100s that know Hyper Beam.

[Natef]

Call of Duty takes barely any skill.

CS takes loads of it.

[GoldenFox93]

Pokemon gets boring after you defeat the E4. It has no replay value

Unless you make different challenges for yourself. Like use of a level 100 Magikarp. But it is rather easy when you have six level 100s that know Hyper Beam.

Or the Nuzlocke Challenge?

[Natef]

Minecraft has a lot of replay value, too.