Music ATM

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[Bobyasianboy]

[yugitom]

Just been to a HU gig, it was awesome :) Attila were supporting but they aren't the best. They were much better live than they sound in the studio, though, I'll give them that.

[madman3]

Just been to a HU gig, it was awesome :) Attila were supporting but they aren't the best. They were much better live than they sound in the studio, though, I'll give them that.

Attila is basically the dumbest and bro-iest of the dumb brocore bands

[courthousedoc]

This is by Greenlandic artist Uyarakq his music is an interesting mix of Dubstep, and Chiptunes. If you can't see the vidieo it is region locked to the US and Australia it seems.

[HX_]

[Badger]

How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?

[madman3]

I find music on Spotify and then buy it on iTunes or on CD if I like it enough.

[Bobyasianboy]

How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?

Usually I'll find music on Pandora or something similar and then pirate it because if I paid for all the music I have on my phone it'd cost literally thousands. If it's an independent and fairly unknown band, I'll most likely buy it from their bandcamp though.

I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.

[yugitom]

I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.

I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw.

How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?

Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.

[playzooki]

How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?

Physical copies usually, mostly from record shops but if it's something i really like and i'll never find in a record shop or somewhere else i'll buy it online. I'll download if the band offers it for free.

[madman3]

I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.

I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw.

How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?

Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.

we scratch each other's backs because we like music that isn't garbage. apparently you like music that is garbage which is cool i guess
also i'm pretty sure the consensus is very much the opposite of it being rubbish:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/05/05/vektor-terminal-redux-make-space-great/ (4.5/5)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21645-vektor-terminal-redux/ (8.2/10)
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Vektor/Terminal_Redux/562580/cytoSiN/306929 (97/100)
http://themetalist.net/album-review-vektor-terminal-redux/ ("A truly fantastic and quintessentially unique listen")

honestly though if you like Hollywood Undead and Disturbed past the age of about 13 you need to get out more

[yugitom]

I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.

I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw.

How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?

Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.

we scratch each other's backs because we like music that isn't garbage. apparently you like music that is garbage which is cool i guess
also i'm pretty sure the consensus is very much the opposite of it being rubbish:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/05/05/vektor-terminal-redux-make-space-great/ (4.5/5)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21645-vektor-terminal-redux/ (8.2/10)
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Vektor/Terminal_Redux/562580/cytoSiN/306929 (97/100)
http://themetalist.net/album-review-vektor-terminal-redux/ ("A truly fantastic and quintessentially unique listen")

honestly though if you like Hollywood Undead and Disturbed past the age of about 13 you need to get out more

Woah, I didn't want a full blown argument. I said it was a rubbish just because I don't like it. I don't think anything said in a music thread has to be prefaced by 'imo' because music is all opinion based.

I think it's rich to say that listening to Disturbed past the age of 13 is bad when you're listening to a song that is similar in genre but with an incomprehensible vocalist that sounds like he's having a mental breakdown.

[madman3]

I had no idea the new Vektor album was out. That track is incredible, going to check out the album right away.

I love how you two scratch each other's backs in the music threads :P That song was rubbish, btw.

How do you guys get your music? Subscription services like spotify, stores like iTunes or Google Play, piracy or old-fashioned CDs?

Subscription service. I very rarely buy albums because I normally don't like entire albums and more a couple of songs from differing albums for varying artists. However, I will buy an album if I like the vast majority of the songs on there, to show my appreciation of it. Most of my albums are from Hollywood Undead and Disturbed and then I'll have some rogue bands here and there.

we scratch each other's backs because we like music that isn't garbage. apparently you like music that is garbage which is cool i guess
also i'm pretty sure the consensus is very much the opposite of it being rubbish:
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/05/05/vektor-terminal-redux-make-space-great/ (4.5/5)
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21645-vektor-terminal-redux/ (8.2/10)
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Vektor/Terminal_Redux/562580/cytoSiN/306929 (97/100)
http://themetalist.net/album-review-vektor-terminal-redux/ ("A truly fantastic and quintessentially unique listen")

honestly though if you like Hollywood Undead and Disturbed past the age of about 13 you need to get out more

Woah, I didn't want a full blown argument. I said it was a rubbish just because I don't like it. I don't think anything said in a music thread has to be prefaced by 'imo' because music is all opinion based.

I think it's rich to say that listening to Disturbed past the age of 13 is bad when you're listening to a song that is similar in genre but with an incomprehensible vocalist that sounds like he's having a mental breakdown.

Firstly, this is the MusicATM thread. Normally nobody voices that kind of opinion in this thread, and actual criticism of songs is done in Rate One, Post One cus that's the whole point of that thread.

I'm not sure that really suggests anything about whether it's immature or whatnot. Harsh vocals are pretty much just a musical tool used for a different purpose to regular singing, much like rapping or even yodeling or something.
Also I'm pretty sure a comparison between the lyrics of both bands shows enough of a difference of intent to distance them sufficiently in my mind. Disturbed haven't had critical acclaim in the best part of 10 years, because they basically capitalized on the Nu-metal boom that bands like Deftones grew up from and other bands have crashed and burned with.

[yugitom]

I understand that I probably should have not stated my opinion so bluntly, so I'm sorry about that. Also, I can't focus on the lyrics because the way the vocalist sounds makes me want to commit, not to mention that the way he is singing is making his words near incomprehensible, too. Lyrics aren't that important to me, anyway. As long as the music sounds good, including how the vocalist sounds (not what he is actually saying), I'm fine with it. I'm sure that, if I put emphasis on lyrics, I'd really dislike HU but I also think I'd be better suited to poetry :P

I hope you're not labeling my music taste childish because of the lyrics of their songs (mostly HU, I imagine) because I don't care about them.

[madman3]

I understand that I probably should have not stated my opinion so bluntly, so I'm sorry about that. Also, I can't focus on the lyrics because the way the vocalist sounds makes me want to commit, not to mention that the way he is singing is making his words near incomprehensible, too. Lyrics aren't that important to me, anyway. As long as the music sounds good, including how the vocalist sounds (not what he is actually saying), I'm fine with it. I'm sure that, if I put emphasis on lyrics, I'd really dislike HU but I also think I'd be better suited to poetry :P

I hope you're not labeling my music taste childish because of the lyrics of their songs (mostly HU, I imagine) because I don't care about them.

Well, I mean to an extent I am I guess? It's also their near total lack of self awareness and the fact that indeed most of their fans are people < 16. It's like listening to Sachiko M but you can't make a joke out of your life afterwards on social media.

[yugitom]

Forgive me for not knowing what you mean by self-awareness, in this situation. Also, I highly doubt most of their fans are <16 because they have been on a fairly long hiatus. And, ~16 is probably around the time when people start getting into metal, so of course they'll be attracted to the generic famous bands like Disturbed.

[madman3]

Forgive me for not knowing what you mean by self-awareness, in this situation. Also, I highly doubt most of their fans are <16 because they have been on a fairly long hiatus. And, ~16 is probably around the time when people start getting into metal, so of course they'll be attracted to the generic famous bands like Disturbed.

Most of the people I know who liked Hollywood Undead did so when they were 13 or 14, and have moved on. It is true that bands like Disturbed are "gateway" bands in a sense, but people don't generally keep listening to them; I listened to Disturbed when I was 12 or so and stopped when I listened to less stripped down, simplified metal. Not even to say that the Nu-metal genre has nothing to offer because as mentioned prior, Deftones is definitely a band I would describe as accomplished and musically interesting.

It really comes down to the intent of the band, which is normally reflected in the music. I think people are more likely in this day and age to be attracted to a band which attempts to push their own limits or practice a certain musical vision than one that vies for the exact mainstream of the metal scene, hence why people often drift back to classic albums of the genre and bands that expand on the same ideas or ones that are at the cutting edge. Hollywood Undead have always struck me as a band that sought to tap into the trends popular with a specific audience and deliver them at a level which requires the minimum level of thought possible to put in for maximum possible enjoyment out, which stops working a lot of the time.

[yugitom]

I think people are more likely in this day and age to be attracted to a band which attempts to push their own limits or practice a certain musical vision

I really do not think so. When I listen to music, I don't care how difficult it was to perform or how diverse it is from the 'mainstream', just as long as it sounds good, I'm fine and I think that's what any average music listener looks for, too. If it was difficult to perform but doesn't sound as good as that other band that make it look easy, I don't care. Complexity or innovation just doesn't matter to me or the average Joe.

[madman3]

I think people are more likely in this day and age to be attracted to a band which attempts to push their own limits or practice a certain musical vision

I really do not think so. When I listen to music, I don't care how difficult it was to perform or how diverse it is from the 'mainstream', just as long as it sounds good, I'm fine and I think that's what any average music listener looks for, too. If it was difficult to perform but doesn't sound as good as that other band that make it look easy, I don't care. Complexity or innovation just doesn't matter to me or the average Joe.

With me it's a balance. Technicality for technicality's sake is boring, hence why a boring band like Brain Drill does nothing for me and why I can't appreciate John Scofield compared to other artists of his ilk, but I'd rather have something which I feel like had some thought put into it. I'm all for catchy music but it can't be a crutch for a lack of actual ideas or songwriting chops.