Green Day

[Enigm@]

There old stuff's pretty good.

[Natef]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4ZKlT1EvCA&list=FLSMnkS7BvY8lx4z9tMyQiJA&index=3&feature=plpp_video#ws

i'm sorry but that was kinda gay.

How?

[Enigm@]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4ZKlT1EvCA&list=FLSMnkS7BvY8lx4z9tMyQiJA&index=3&feature=plpp_video#ws

i'm sorry but that was kinda gay.

How?

new green day's turned into the deluded pop crap that you normally hear on the radio.

[Natef]

It's fine.

[madman3]

TBH the band has kinda committed suicide commercially when it comes to the older fanbase. Frankly their new stuff is immature but completely lacking in their old aggression.

[Natef]

I think their newer stuff is better.

[cephalopod]

Out of curiosity, did you become a fan in the last few years? That would explain it. If you get into a band, you usually like their current era most, because that's what you heard to get into them..
(This logic doesn't always work - I got into Muse just after Black Holes and Revelations was released in 06, but still prefer Origin of Symmetry from 01)

[Natef]

No, this year.

[Chaosmancer]

...Somehow I think that this year would come under what Craaig said, and supports his point.

[Natef]

And his point adds to what?

[Chaosmancer]

That your reason for liking the more modern stuff is because of the fact that you were introduced to their more modern stuff. In the same way that people who played Final Fantasy VII as their first Final Fantasy game are more likely to prefer that, whereas people who started earlier on (i.e. the 'bigger fans') prefer Final Fantasy VI. I thought it was rather obvious what he was implying; namely that if you listened to the more modern stuff first, you are more likely to prefer the more modern stuff. Assuming, of course, that you listened to the more modern stuff before listening to the older stuff.

[Natef]

So that was pointless?

[Chaosmancer]

Hmm... I'm not sure what you mean by that, so I am going to assume that you were saying that Craaig's point was pointless. If that is the case, he made that point as a counter argument to those believing the more modern stuff to be 'gay', or just expressing a general dislike. He was pointing out a possible reason for you liking it. If your last post was relating to something else, then expand a little, because I can't really think of anything else it could be talking about.

[Natef]

Like this:

Out of curiosity, did you become a fan in the last few years? That would explain it. If you get into a band, you usually like their current era most, because that's what you heard to get into them..
(This logic doesn't always work - I got into Muse just after Black Holes and Revelations was released in 06, but still prefer Origin of Symmetry from 01)

I think if I say that I like the newer stuff, does it matter why?

[Chaosmancer]

Hmm... whether it matters or not is sometimes irrelevant, people will generally try to find a reasoning behind everything, especially if it is something that they are kind of against. I personally don't believe that it really matters that much, but Craaig's hypothesis is rather interesting. Besides, without reasoning, there will generally always be someone there to question why you feel that way. In all honesty, I don't really think it matters, but find the psychology behind things to be a rather interesting subject.

[cephalopod]

I made the point because everyone's like 'NO THIS IS BETTER' 'NO THIS.' etc. I got into them through American Idiot but prefer Dookie, etc personally.
Part of the point I was making was showing they have, as madman put it, 'committed suicide' to the old fanbase, but gained another much wider one. I'd prefer the smaller select fanbase if I was in a band but if you want the money, you know XD