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Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?

Keep them all for nostalgia sake. I relatively like them all.
15 (60%)
Remove the Spin Doctors "We'll make you a smash hit!"
0 (0%)
Remove the Alien Invasion "They're here."
0 (0%)
Remove The PIT "Paragon Institute of Technology"
0 (0%)
Remove Secom Security Services "30 years experience in mobile robotics."
0 (0%)
Remove Three Billy Goats Gruff "We eat anything and everything!"
0 (0%)
Remove Orbital Launch Team "How's the view from up there?"
0 (0%)
Remove Team Jabberwocky "Twas brillig, and the slithy tove, did gyre and gimble in the wabe..."
0 (0%)
Remove Sheep Squad "Baaaaa, Ram, Ewe!"
0 (0%)
Remove Sky Net "Are you Sarah Conner?!"
0 (0%)
Remove Borg Collective "We are the Borg. Resistance is futile"
0 (0%)
Remove Eye of the Storm "We'll tear you apart!"
0 (0%)
Remove The Grave Diggers "R.I.P. - Rest in pieces."
0 (0%)
Remove King Arthur's Court "Might makes right!"
0 (0%)
Remove Team Atlantis "Up from the murky depths we rise..."
0 (0%)
Remove ACME Moving Men "Look what fell off the truck! Hew, how do you turn this thing on?"
0 (0%)
Remove Rust Factory "Brought to you by Rejected"
0 (0%)
Remove Grandpa's Shed "Brought to you by Clutch"
0 (0%)
Remove ACAMS Cleaning Service "Brought to you by ACAMS"
2 (8%)
Remove Spam! Spam! Spam! "Brought to you by Diablo"
0 (0%)
Remove 1337 SPEEKERS "Brought to you by Eyce"
0 (0%)
Remove Infestion "Brought to you by Foolishevil"
0 (0%)
Remove C2 Robotics "Brought to you by C2"
0 (0%)
Remove EHB "Brought to you by Spawngeek"
0 (0%)
Remove Carnival Mayhem "Brought to you by Foolishevil"
0 (0%)
Remove Team XORB "Brought to you by Jimxorb"
0 (0%)
Remove Mythbots "Brought to you by Viper"
0 (0%)
Remove Team Ultimatum "Brought to you by EpicentrE"
0 (0%)
Remove Team Emergency "Brought to you by WardenX"
0 (0%)
Remove ACAMS Anti-Wedge "Wedge elimination specialists"
0 (0%)
Remove Happy Bees "Brought to you by Rejected"
0 (0%)
Remove Spinners of Doom "Brought to you by ACAMS"
0 (0%)
Remove Past-Present-Future "Brought to you by Artitan"
1 (4%)
Remove Team SpaceStation "Brought to you by Gemini"
0 (0%)
Remove The Mafia "Brought to you by Clutch"
0 (0%)
Remove Team Karnage "Brought to you by Karnage"
1 (4%)
Remove Hidden Team 35
3 (12%)
Leave them all alone. Not worth updating Stock AI packs any more.
3 (12%)

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Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« on: May 30, 2017, 03:58:04 PM »
You are welcome to say keep them all or if you vote out a team you can post what you feel is wrong or inadequate about the team.

Any teams we do remove will make room for that many more new teams from the current RA2 community (Diverse, Effective, Creative).

We are at 36 current teams and I am setting a max of 45 teams for the pack which will take us to 270 diverse Stock bots.

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Re: Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2017, 05:01:19 PM »
I am curious about the fate of any already rebuilt robots from a removed team. Would they be removed well? Would the best machines be placed in a special "legacy team?"
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Re: Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2017, 06:53:55 PM »
Quote from: Dreamcast on May 30, 2017, 05:01:19 PM
I am curious about the fate of any already rebuilt robots from a removed team. Would they be removed well? Would the best machines be placed in a special "legacy team?"

Good question: At this point, prior versions of the Starcore packs are where the "legacy teams" reside. For example, the bot WAN Mower was retired from Starcore v1 to v2.

And we have captured all of the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 bots as a named collection in a Robot Designs folder for anyone that wants to look at the prior in the bot lab (to compare for example).

But at this point, if a bot is being replaced it is because there are newer and better techniques to show off. The new version had to be able to beat the bot it is replacing and preferably multiple other bots of its same weight class in the Starcore pack.

Consider removal a retiring to pasture for the replaced bots.

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Re: Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2017, 07:01:30 PM »
Whoops, I didn't answer your question.

For bots that are a rebuild of a bot but not used in that specific spot, the plan is to find another spot that it might fit or yes as we have a group of them from various builders, would be happy to see if we can form a new themed team from the not used rebuilt bot(s).

That is assuming they are Diverse in their building techniques, Effective as a bot both in design and combat ability, and Creative which covers theming, texturing, and how cool it is.

Bots that are submitted that generic, combat weak and/or little to no effort to theme, I will let the builder know how to improve their entry so they can take it back to the grind stone.

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Re: Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2017, 09:18:02 PM »
The only teams that I  would think might be excluded are the old Member teams, such as ACAMS Cleaning Service, as it would perhaps be wrong to have those teams with bots that are not built by those members. Otherwise,  I don't see any team that can't be updated.
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Re: Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 09:53:44 PM »
Quote from: Meganerdbomb on May 30, 2017, 09:18:02 PM
The only teams that I  would think might be excluded are the old Member teams, such as ACAMS Cleaning Service, as it would perhaps be wrong to have those teams with bots that are not built by those members. Otherwise,  I don't see any team that can't be updated.
I'd agree with you, but that'd be nearly half the pack.
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Re: Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 10:10:15 PM »
Quote from: Mr. AS on May 30, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: Meganerdbomb on May 30, 2017, 09:18:02 PM
The only teams that I  would think might be excluded are the old Member teams, such as ACAMS Cleaning Service, as it would perhaps be wrong to have those teams with bots that are not built by those members. Otherwise,  I don't see any team that can't be updated.
I'd agree with you, but that'd be nearly half the pack.
Not the ones that are specifically based on a user (C2 Robotics, Team XORB). Most of the teams have proper gimmicks.
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Re: Which if any team(s) should be removed from the Starcore v4 Alpha 2 pack?
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2017, 10:47:57 PM »
Quote from: Starcore on June 01, 2017, 10:21:54 PM
Gemini is not with us anymore. This was a case that the bots were decent enough but nothing distinctive. Things like the bot named Alien Predator was his choice and nothing particularly wrong with it so I didn't force a change.

Is a case of if people vote to remove/replace the team as not competitive then so be it. I realize the other option is to rebuild many/most of the bots to be modern competitive.

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I would be happy with preserving all the teams and general bot designs for legacy's sake; there should be no problem making any outdated bots competitive for today's standards. If everyone is confident that the project will be seen through to completion for building, AI'ing, and properly skinning all 216 bots then it should remain the goal. Otherwise it might be worth putting priority on certain teams to start, in case things slow down and official release needs to be pushed.
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