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Offline Dragonfire

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« Reply #120 on: February 21, 2009, 05:34:15 AM »
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the one attachment point that is pushed in farther makes it really hard to put them symmetrically in the chassis without taking forever to do so. it you could just push out the one AP so it's equal to the other then that would be great. you can't really use a different extender cause they don't attach to the chassis.


i think the multi extender is good because it has its attachment points like that, it can be a pain to twist it around exactly right on the other side to make it symmetrical, or 90 degrees for the front/back, but i like it.

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« Reply #121 on: February 21, 2009, 06:03:38 AM »
Minion = :D

Would we get that wheel as a normal (non-cheatbot) component also? It looks great and we haven't many good middle-sized wheels in DSL.

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« Reply #122 on: February 23, 2009, 04:57:10 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/user/jtjoe


could you put some of those bots in there mainly antweight-middle weight i believe there pretty cool looking and he provide pictures of the bots and much more in the videos......

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« Reply #123 on: February 27, 2009, 07:29:04 PM »
This is gonna be sweet...

I just hope all of my old bots will still work in 3.0.

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« Reply #124 on: February 27, 2009, 08:57:51 PM »
Minion looks great Click. I can't wait for this.
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« Reply #125 on: March 07, 2009, 02:55:00 PM »
Whoa, it's been a long time since I booted up RA2 and DSL and I have to say that this is pretty awesome. It's nice to see that the RA2 community is still going strong after all those sites went under :P The new Minion looks great btw!

Some notes, although these are all probably obvious:

Chaos 2 is way too underpowered right now, and could also do with a speed boost. I'm hardly able to flip the shrederator ring in the test area.

Biohazard's flipping arm works weird. Sometimes it will flip normally, but other times it will revert to it's self-righting mode (where the flipper fires in a Firestorm-esque fashion). It's also pretty slow, but that seems to be because the flipping arm hugs the ground so close that it raises the front wheels. He also seems kinda small, in length and width, in comparison to the real Biohazard.

Beta, frenZy, etc. all have some havoc attacks pretty often, although there's probably nothing you can do about that.

Vladiator could do with some more speed.

iirc Tornado's wedge version isn't in the previous version of DSL, but it's been awhile so I think I missed something.

Firestorm's front wedge is terrible, and I have a hard time actually getting under almost all other wedges.

Shrederator has a hard time doing damage, and a hard time 'throwing' robots. He could also do with being made a bit bigger.

Tazbot's AI can't self-right

Dominator should be a little bigger

Hypno-Disc should be a bit thinner

Panic Attack needs to be faster. His turning is also pretty bad at the moment.

Storm II's flipper is super annoying. Is there some way you can get him to use it less, or maybe make it fire a little slower? It hardly flips things anyway, all the AI does is keep your wheels off the ground and works more like a puncher than an actual flipper.

Everything else is alright, although I may get back on this later. I haven't had a chance to play around with the LWs again, so although I know there are some issues (Pussycat is going to be made a HW as far as I know so that probably won't be a problem, and if I remember correctly, SlapHappy was probably too strong) I can't really comment on them yet. Like I said, this is probably obvious stuff but I just want to put in my two cents ;)
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« Reply #126 on: March 07, 2009, 03:11:19 PM »
You built Feedback for BBEANS 2 right?
I built that big robot on that TV show that time


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« Reply #127 on: March 07, 2009, 04:03:05 PM »
I think all the menu's could be edited. I'd be glad to help with showing what I mean.
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« Reply #128 on: March 07, 2009, 04:04:41 PM »
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You built Feedback for BBEANS 2 right?


hahaha yeah, that terrible 'realistic' design that was completely ineffecient. I'm just so unwilling to draw a chassis over and over again to get the best use out of space that my designs end up horribly inefficient :P
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« Reply #129 on: March 07, 2009, 05:55:49 PM »
Ya, I've looked at it and it could be (much) better. Are you gonna compete in BBEANS 5?
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« Reply #130 on: March 08, 2009, 05:51:46 AM »
I might, but it's been such a long time since I did anything in RA2 that it's unlikely I'll make anything worth competeing lol
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« Reply #131 on: March 08, 2009, 02:05:25 PM »
1 Question: Is minion going to drive backwards like the old one or with the wedge in front like it does IRL?
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« Reply #132 on: March 08, 2009, 02:14:05 PM »
Well, if i'm not mistaken, Click wants it to attack with the disc first, then if the disc is broken, to turn back and attack with the flipper.

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« Reply #133 on: March 08, 2009, 03:21:33 PM »
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Well, if i'm not mistaken, Click wants it to attack with the disc first, then if the disc is broken, to turn back and attack with the flipper.


What flipper?

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« Reply #134 on: March 08, 2009, 03:57:38 PM »
Minion's rear wedge has a Snapper2-powered flipper.

Just check the bot in the bot lab.

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« Reply #135 on: March 08, 2009, 04:42:28 PM »
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Minion's rear wedge has a Snapper2-powered flipper.

Just check the bot in the bot lab.


I'm pretty sure the snapper's just to set the wedge. The real world version of minion doesn't have a flipper(assuming you don't count the sri-mech)

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« Reply #136 on: March 08, 2009, 07:47:49 PM »
Actually it probably would be more like the real one if the wedge was on an axle.

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« Reply #137 on: March 09, 2009, 09:32:51 AM »
Wait, you can made the "None" weight a SHW, but not copy and paste the code, edit it and use that for AW and BW classes, yet you can make all sorts of buttons? WHA?
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« Reply #138 on: March 09, 2009, 02:07:04 PM »
RA2 works in strange ways, my friend....

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« Reply #139 on: March 09, 2009, 03:31:41 PM »
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Wait, you can made the "None" weight a SHW, but not copy and paste the code, edit it and use that for AW and BW classes, yet you can make all sorts of buttons? WHA?


well we could, if someone would give us the source code. i periodically put a thread on the atari forums asking for it, but havent once gotten a reply.

(btw, it is atari that has it right? didnt they buy infogrames?)
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