Author Topic: NAR AI 2020 - DSL 2.1 Standard AI pack (Read 170106 times)

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #580 on:** March 15, 2010, 12:04:02 PM »

Yeah... not the best idea at all IMO. I thought (along with most of the community I'm sure) that the purpose of Nar AI was to create the Starcore pack of DSL. You haven't changed neraly enough of how the game feels for it to be a new mod, and with the altered .txt's, it's not compatible with DSL 2.1, which BBEANS will be in. I can't test my robots against any of your superior designs, because none of the components will act the same. It's a completely useless pack with the changed .txt's.

EDIT: I guess I can try to rip the AI out of your pack and put them into my DSL so I can do my testing there, but still, modded components weren't your best idea.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #581 on:** March 15, 2010, 10:48:57 PM »

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I never thought of it that way R0B0

guess 2.1 is the extent of DSL testing at a high level

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #582 on:** March 16, 2010, 01:16:33 AM »

Copy/pasting the AI folder into DSL 2.1 seems to work fine. I guess that I'll go with that then.

G.K. · « **Reply #583 on:** March 16, 2010, 01:18:58 AM »

Just anything with External Betas or skinned components won't work.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #584 on:** March 16, 2010, 01:35:19 AM »

and those with DarkRat parts

Naryar · « **Reply #585 on:** March 16, 2010, 06:10:32 AM »

Oh great, i just feel backstabbed now. And you said you liked the new components...

Should i even bother continuing with that mod ?

JoeBlo · « **Reply #586 on:** March 16, 2010, 09:56:05 AM »

dont fell bad you must just ask yourself what direction you want to go.. super AI pack or new new DSL mod ?

an option would be

separating (roll back to NarAI 2.1 I believe) and press on with the super AI pack, nothing more

plus make new skins, text edits, new componants etc and release it as another mod "DSLN" or something ? that features new balanced stuff, parts etc and just the minimum 15 teams for people to fight (you could use builders teams to help with that)

then after that large chunk of work you will be doing the same as before only putting it in to separate files rather then 1

Clickbeetle · « **Reply #587 on:** March 16, 2010, 09:43:51 PM »

The NAI AI will be good for testing as soon as somebody does a NAR-DSL tournament.

If your rebalancing work eventually takes over DSL 2.1 as "the standard", it won't happen overnight. It will be a gradual process.

Same with DSL3, I think, since it won't be backwards compatible. People will be playing DSL 2.1 for a long time to come.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #588 on:** March 17, 2010, 12:51:32 AM »

Two primary groups of people who will resist the changes

1. People who are worry about the legitimacy of the patch.
2. People who disagree with the changes.

First group can be convinced once tournament are hosted with NAR AI components.
Second group will not be convinced unless things go their way.

So, the first step is, identify how many people are in the first group, and how many are in the second.

If First Group > Second Group, then pushing forward would be a good strategy.

If however Second Group > First Group, you would need to radically rethink what you did, or convert back to just an AI pack. I learned it the hard way that not everyone agrees with my changes, despite how much I believe in them.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #589 on:** March 17, 2010, 01:15:11 AM »

guess I was thinking to streamline too

if more people innovate this as "DSL 2.2" in tournaments it will take off more and people will start replacing the updated stuff over the old 2.1

LiNcK · « **Reply #590 on:** March 17, 2010, 08:44:46 PM »

Well, If all the DSL Tourneys (Or atleast most of them SPECIALLY Clash Cubes) becomes NAR AI v2.2 with the new components & Stuff, Ill be definitely be ditching DSL xP

Since this NAR AI thing is DSL, But with the little "bugs" (Unbalances) fixed & Some new parts.
So, Its better than DSL, Its just that if its not used, Its not worth anything :P

G.K. · « **Reply #591 on:** March 22, 2010, 10:07:11 AM »

Quote from: G.K. on March 13, 2010, 04:24:09 PM

Quote from: Naryar on March 13, 2010, 06:38:23 AM
How is HMN's disc interesting ?

But yes, i will try to implement more replica weapons.

EDIT: And wheels, and the long-ass MOE perm.

It is as inteesting as the Supernova disc.

So not just discs?

Oh oh! So will we get Ruiner's Magmotor too?

Naryar · « **Reply #592 on:** March 23, 2010, 06:37:28 AM »

Ruiner's mag is worthless IMO.

And you already have a HMN disc in the darkrat parts.

Naryar · « **Reply #593 on:** March 25, 2010, 10:15:21 AM »

OK, so i will release NAR AI for April 1st.

More teams will be appreciated as well.

LiNcK · « **Reply #594 on:** March 25, 2010, 11:07:05 AM »

I might finish my team before April 1...
Im having some problems putting 5 Razors in 3 extenders :\

I need that glitch were u can attach stuff anywere to happen, Or else you cant put 15 Razors on a Popup...
Not that way atleast :S

G.K. · « **Reply #595 on:** March 25, 2010, 11:28:08 AM »

Expect updates at some point.

Naryar · « **Reply #596 on:** March 25, 2010, 11:55:19 AM »

Quote from: LiNcK on March 25, 2010, 11:07:05 AM

I might finish my team before April 1...
Im having some problems putting 5 Razors in 3 extenders :\

I need that glitch were u can attach stuff anywere to happen, Or else you cant put 15 Razors on a Popup...
Not that way atleast :S

Either use snapper loading, either just use BFE

G.K. · « **Reply #597 on:** March 25, 2010, 11:56:27 AM »

eFFe'ing might work.

Somebody · « **Reply #598 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:58:27 PM »

Are the AIs on the legless beasts fixed?
Also, I may send an SnSnSnSnS team, and I could send you the Hells Hammer as well so SnSnS 3 can be in. You might wanna make it a hidden part though

Naryar · « **Reply #599 on:** March 25, 2010, 01:00:07 PM »

I will gladly accept more teams, but i cannot allow overpowered parts, sorry.

Will check your Legless Beasts bindings as well.