DSL3 is not cancelled.

[Probably Rob]

's just a test robot:



Come on, this gotta be new C.R.U.S.H.? 

Don't worry, this'll be the last bot I post to avoid spamming this addicting alpha.

[Merrick]

I have a raging boner right now.

On a serious note, where can I get a new clean Stock 1.4 to download? Sage's link no longer works.

[TriTon]

I have a raging boner right now.

On a serious note, where can I get a new clean Stock 1.4 to download? Sage's link no longer works.

https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=10649.0

Also, here are the bots that run normally so far.

Jackpot
The Boxer
Dementia
Flame Chopper
Civil Disobediance
Stinger
Backyard Ripper

All the others hardly move at all/go in random slight movements or drive backwards at you.

[Probably Rob]

Or here.

[MikeNCR]

Here's a few test bots. Seems like some of the old wheels haven't had the mesh updated and still wire as they normally would. The new components seem nice. The other think I noticed is it seems like all the spin motors I've tested are generally slower and more torque-y

[Flying_Chao]

Not that good, just testing some stuff.





Can't tell if the components are any good since I have nothing to compare it to. I do like all the new components though, they have great promise.

[Pressure]

Looking good soo far.

I can't get the Colson wheels to attach to any motor though. Maybe the hitbox needs tweaking.

[infiniteinertia]

Now, I can finally build DSL again

[Probably Rob]

Non-canon new Generation Crush. 

[Clickbeetle]

I can't get the Colson wheels to attach to any motor though. Maybe the hitbox needs tweaking.

Oops.  It seems I didn't do the passthru correctly.  Thanks for finding that.  In the meantime, they should attach if you put them outside the chassis.

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NOTCH, FIX IT.

Also, what was wrong with the aluminium sheets, for them to be removed?

Tank treads not passing through the chassis was intentional, because frankly that would look dumb.

There was nothing technically wrong with aluminum skirts (or polycarbonate extenders); they were removed for realism reasons.  Aluminum would make horrible skirts in real life because it's so soft and the skirts are so thin, it would just crumple like paper.  And who ever heard of polycarbonate extenders?  Armor, sure, but nobody makes long rods out of plastic.

woah didn't expect this...

is it possible to add more attachment points to the pc545 and pc625 batteries?

Yep, I planned to do that but in the rush to get everything ready for April Fools I forgot.

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Here's a few test bots. Seems like some of the old wheels haven't had the mesh updated and still wire as they normally would. The new components seem nice. The other think I noticed is it seems like all the spin motors I've tested are generally slower and more torque-y

The only thing I changed with the spin motor power is to very slightly bump up the torque on the Perm 80, TWM3R2, E-tek, and Tornado Mer gearbox.  Also the slimbody got a boost.  Speed should be unchanged.

As for the wheels, it seems from TriTon's post that it's just the shiny hubs and the buzzard wheels that haven't been updated.  I thought I did the shiny hubs, but I guess not.  Must have run into problems with the reflection map.  I need Serge's GMF compiler to compile wheels, but I need Dummy's to compile reflection maps...  As for the buzzard wheels, those have never been stock DSL and they aren't now either, so I'm not worried about them.  If you want wheels with spikes, you now have the option of attaching some razors on the side.   

click can you leave the multiextender as a cheatbot 2 part they're incredible for attatching stuff for IRL and replica designs and artbots and stuff

Hmm, I will consider it.  If there's actually demand for them I suppose there's no reason not to have multiextenders as cheatbot2.

[Merrick]

Cheers for the stock links, guys. Copying it all over now. Good time to have a day off. 

[123savethewhales]

Click, are you sure you really want a weapon that deals 5000 damage per hit with 2000 fracture?  It's not exactly a leap of creativity to just throw them on a spin motor you know.

[Merrick]

I'm enjoying it so far. Lots of nice changes. Obviously it's not finished so it's showing phenomenal potential.


POTENTIAL WHICH I HAVE WASTED ON MY STYLE OF BORING.

MWA HA HA HA.

[Naryar]

...Wondering if the current DSL 2 metagame (the DSL realistic one, of course) will adapt to DSL3 ? Because I'm none too fond of the slaughtering of wedges and good wheels.

There seem to be some very nice additions though... I see you have taken a few ideas from me.

Besides, TWM3R2 Drive seemed like a good idea at the time but the shape just not pratical, unless you like having your 2WD at the center of the bot.

edit : ninja whales

bah

[Conraaa]

Besides, TWM3R2 Drive seemed like a good idea at the time but the shape just not pratical, unless you like having your 2WD at the center of the bot.

A million times this.

[123savethewhales]

Because I'm none too fond of the slaughtering of wedges and good wheels.

Agree with the wheels, I feel like I am absolutely forced to use hypno wheels on everything now, or vlad/bike/granny wheels if size is required.  The extra HP on the larger wheels means almost nothing when they also comes with enormous hitboxes.

[AlexGRFan97]

Now that you've returned, I thought of a few ideas that you might want to incorporate:

• Different NPC motors - Take a look at the ungeared ones for example: http://www.robotmarketplace.com/products/npc_motors_main.html
  
  
• Even smaller, lighter components than what we already have for lower weightclasses - ATM, FWs are almost impossible to make and AWs have a severely limited motor, weapon and wheel choice. Even the lightest motor, the Copal, weighs 11kg. There should be a sub 10kg motor in DSL3. For wheels, maybe add some RC aeroplane tyres, Lite Flites/Dubros, mini tracks etc.
• Different shell - Seriously, pretty much every SS ever made looks the same. Why not make shell with different colours or shapes/designs? Atleast that way we can tell them apart.

Sorry if this list came off as condescending, but  I can't re-word it in any other way.

[Probably Rob]

Because I'm none too fond of the slaughtering of wedges and good wheels.

Agree with the wheels, I feel like I am absolutely forced to use hypno wheels on everything now, or vlad/bike/granny wheels if size is required.

Jesus, it's only an alpha, there WILL be more wheels added.

[Naryar]

So best wheel has changed from techno to hypno ? Eh. Still a problem considering most bots are not NPC-thin.

[123savethewhales]

So best wheel has changed from techno to hypno ? Eh. Still a problem considering most bots are not NPC-thin.

2 things happened

1.  Weight is now based on wheel size
2.  Grip is independent of weight.

Which means you use the smallest wheel that has decent grip, turns out that wheel is hypno with 1.2 grip at 10.5 kg, which also happens to be the wheel with the highest grip anyway so you can ignore all other wheels unless you absolutely must have a larger one.  HP is absolutely meaningless because larger wheels will break faster than smaller wheels anyway due to hitbox.

Then again, with half sheet gone, all wedge bots will probably be NPC thin, and everything else a battery box.