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Title: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 01, 2013, 05:09:40 PM
Yep, you've probably noticed I haven't been around here lately, and the reason is that I've lost interest in RA2.  I would have time to finish DSL3 if I felt like it, but I don't.  I just don't have the motivation.  So, sorry guys.

So with that, I will leave GTM.  I just thought I would let you guys all know what's happening, which is nothing.

As for all the DSL3 stuff I have done so far, I have no plans to upload it.  It's kind of a mess and I don't feel like sorting through everything and getting it organized.

Yep, looks like DSL3 has gone the way of Backlash.  Well, no big deal.  You guys seem pretty happy with DSL2.

Goodbye.

Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Venko on April 01, 2013, 05:12:38 PM
Nice try  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 01, 2013, 05:14:33 PM
I knew this was an April Fools from the moment I saw the title :')


If you need any arena meshes or replica meshes, check out my threads and i'll send ya some stuff over if you're interested ;) Or if you need anything specially made I'd be more than happy to help :)
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Kossokei on April 01, 2013, 05:22:33 PM
Ban this man, no one's allowed to make leaving threads!
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Badnik96 on April 01, 2013, 05:25:36 PM
Knew Click was gonna pull an April Fools joke. Just didn't know when.


edit: WAIT IS THIS A WORKING DSL3 BETA AND NOT A JOKE


YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: MassimoV on April 01, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
DSL. 3. Beta. Click I love you.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 01, 2013, 05:26:19 PM
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 01, 2013, 05:26:29 PM
I took your post seriously.

Then when I saw the spoiler's title I doubted it...
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: 090901 on April 01, 2013, 05:28:07 PM
Lexan armour plates hngnhngnhngnhhhhgnhngnhgnhngnhngnhng
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on April 01, 2013, 05:28:41 PM
My heart literally stopped when I read this title and saw your name. Well, got to see if this is for real, so uh, I'll be back in a few minutes.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: 090901 on April 01, 2013, 05:29:51 PM
My heart literally stopped when I read this title and saw your name. Well, got to see if this is for real, so uh, I'll be back in a few minutes.
It's real.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 01, 2013, 05:33:08 PM
Beta? There was an alpha? Or it was just too good so it's skipped to beta?
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Tweedy on April 01, 2013, 05:36:57 PM
Click I love you for this <3
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on April 01, 2013, 05:43:01 PM
Yes, I can confirm this is real.  :claping
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Flying_Chao on April 01, 2013, 05:45:57 PM
Clickbeetle, you magnificent Arthropod.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 01, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
Reposting contents of readme now that the cat's out of the bag.

*************************
How to install:
Cut and paste extracted files over a CLEAN copy of RA2.  And by CLEAN, I mean STOCK clean.  It will NOT WORK if you try to install it over DSL2!
*************************
At long last, WELCOME TO DSL3!!!
Note that this is a beta version.  Not all of the planned features for DSL3 are included.  The main purpose of this beta is to get the community to give feedback, test things like component balance, and report bugs.  Also because you've waited long enough for this.
What is NOT included in the beta:
- Replicas and replica components.  These are planned for a future beta update.
- Arena updates.
- Race mode.
- AI opponents.  You'll have to make do with the stock AI for now.
- New UI.  There may or may not be all-new UI for the final DSL3 release.
Basically, the Beta 1 release is ONLY COMPONENTS.  Hey, it's something.
*************************
Beta 1 changelog:
+ Ant battery nerfed, big batteries buffed.
+ CO2 tanks and piston air consumption properly balanced.
+ Baseplate anchors are smaller and lighter.
+ All-new extenders with more attach points.
+ All-new angle connectors that actually look good and have decent HP.
+ One hex plate has attach points on all sides.  Fixed lighting.
+ DSL axle mounts are twice as heavy in an attempt to nerf flail spam.
+ Skirts are nerfed (removed extra attach points and increased thickness so they aren't as wedgy).
+ All-new armor plates that fit perfectly over extenders in many size combinations.
+ Motor HP is properly balanced.
+ Perm 80, TWM3R2, E-tek, and Tornado Mer gearbox are slightly more powerful.
+ New TWM3R2 Drive
+ New Reinforced Perms
+ NPC-T64's can no longer pass through chassis.
+ Burst motor power, HP, and battery drain is properly balanced.
+ New "pneumatic" burst motors.
+ Wheel grip, mass, and HP is properly balanced.
+ Wheels edited so driving on top of other bots no longer reverses your controls.
+ Attach points added to outside wheel faces.
+ New Colson wheels.  Buster wheels, Growler wheels, and Slap Happy wheels are un-hidden.
+ New oval tank treads.
+ All weapons except mace now have normals in an attempt to balance them and alter gameplay.
+ All weapons re-weighted and rebalanced.
+ New Typhoon teeth.
+ New better-looking saw blades.
+ Everything moved out of the "extras" tab into "extenders".  "Extras" will contain replica components in future releases.
+ Resorted all components in all tabs in a more logical order.
+ Chassis armor is a lot stronger and is on an exponential scale, so heavy armor is more efficient.
- Removed polycarbonate extenders.
- Removed aluminum skirts.
- Removed metal hinge.  (Take that, wedges!)
- Removed multiextender.
- Removed small wedge.  (And that!)
- Removed ram plate, titanium sheet, and half sheet.  (New armor panels basically replace them.)
- Removed NPC fast.  (TWM3R2 Drive replaces it.)
- Removed SFTW.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: cephalopod on April 01, 2013, 05:49:11 PM
Well I've never seen the Skype group this crazy. Thank you, Click, for 'leaving' <3
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: HurricaneAndrew on April 01, 2013, 05:51:56 PM
I love you, Click...

PS: I have such a hard-on right now.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on April 01, 2013, 05:53:14 PM
Wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Thankyouthankthakyou!  I remeber a while back, you said that I wouldn't be able to carry over bots from DSL 2 to DSL3, is that true for this?
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Natef on April 01, 2013, 06:05:35 PM
I just squealed in excitement!
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 01, 2013, 06:07:42 PM
Wahoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Thankyouthankthakyou!  I remeber a while back, you said that I wouldn't be able to carry over bots from DSL 2 to DSL3, is that true for this?

Unfortunately, yes.  There's no way around it, since I'm changing or outright removing a lot of DSL2 components.  For example, there's just one style of NPC motor in DSL3, and no multiextenders.

It's possible, however, to make a "compatibility pack" that would include all the missing DSL2 components (but hidden), so you can at least import DSL2 bots and then manually "convert" them to DSL3 yourself.  This is something I have planned for later.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Badnik96 on April 01, 2013, 06:08:43 PM
Just an FYI but you'll have to re-wire all your old bots if you want to use them, the fixed tires means that all the wiring is reversed.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 01, 2013, 06:15:49 PM
Just an FYI but you'll have to re-wire all your old bots if you want to use them, the fixed tires means that all the wiring is reversed.

Seems the stock AI didn't get the memo.

My next priority will be getting some actual AI opponents ready.  In the meantime, any AI packs are welcome.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 01, 2013, 06:19:16 PM
Thank you so much click!
this is the best day on this forum for me and this is my 4th year.
We all waited so long for this moment and even though its "just" the beta it`s awesome.
I love the new components and I already got so many new ideas for robots and shapes.
I whish there was a way to show you how thankful we all are
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: TriTon on April 01, 2013, 06:22:24 PM
Just an FYI but you'll have to re-wire all your old bots if you want to use them, the fixed tires means that all the wiring is reversed.

Seems the stock AI didn't get the memo.

My next priority will be getting some actual AI opponents ready.  In the meantime, any AI packs are welcome.


All the bots are going to have to be re-wired. Watching go in random locations is funny though.


I really like it so far, especially UI and menu theme. Now what do we do, make DSL3 remakes of all the bots?
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 01, 2013, 06:25:53 PM


Now what do we do, make DSL3 remakes of all the bots?


Me smells a building contest :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 01, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
Look guys, I made a robot.  :gawe:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17946Robot.PNG)
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: RedSawn on April 01, 2013, 06:27:50 PM
You sly bastard, you. x)
Going to have a lot of fun with this..
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 01, 2013, 06:29:02 PM
Well, I've just been playing it, and so far, consider me very impressed indeed from what I've seen so far- I love the Rack & Pinion Bursts and Tank Tracks and things. If this is just the Beta, we'll definitely be in for a real treat once everything else is released with it.   :claping
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: TriTon on April 01, 2013, 06:29:33 PM
Look guys, I made a robot.  :gawe:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17946Robot.PNG)


C.R.U.S.H shall now be known as G.R.I.N.D.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 01, 2013, 06:32:45 PM
Look guys, I made a robot.  :gawe:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/17946Robot.PNG)
Me too. Proudly presenting my first ever (And rather crap) DSL3 robot-
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/71194Tanktracklad.png)
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: martymidget on April 01, 2013, 06:37:49 PM
I will hug your saws.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: kill343gs on April 01, 2013, 06:38:29 PM
click can you leave the multiextender as a cheatbot 2 part they're incredible for attatching stuff for IRL and replica designs and artbots and stuff
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 01, 2013, 06:38:42 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43175NOTCHFIXIT.PNG)

...

NOTCH, FIX IT.

Also, what was wrong with the aluminium sheets, for them to be removed?
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Trovaner on April 01, 2013, 06:48:42 PM
I had a feeling that you would pay a visit today but I never expected a beta for DSL3... You rock.

It's possible, however, to make a "compatibility pack" that would include all the missing DSL2 components (but hidden), so you can at least import DSL2 bots and then manually "convert" them to DSL3 yourself.  This is something I have planned for later.
I could write a quick little program that would convert DSL2 to DSL3 after the bot exchange is finished.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Badnik96 on April 01, 2013, 06:55:47 PM
I made some stupid IRL thing that I CBA to post right now
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Sylandro on April 01, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
How come that i can't find the EXE for Robot Arena 2 in the folder?
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: MassimoV on April 01, 2013, 07:00:17 PM
How come that i can't find the EXE for Robot Arena 2 in the folder?
You have to copy and paste all the new stuff into a pre-existing copy.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Virus Bomb on April 01, 2013, 07:16:22 PM
woah didn't expect this...

is it possible to add more attachment points to the pc545 and pc625 batteries?
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 01, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
Been playing around with it - love how it adds a much more realistic element to it! :D
Was wondering if it would be better to add some AP's to the sides of the armour panel's  that way I think more designs and possibilities could be achieved :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 01, 2013, 07:20:11 PM
's just a test robot:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/83874NewCrush.PNG)

Come on, this gotta be new C.R.U.S.H.?  :gawe:

Don't worry, this'll be the last bot I post to avoid spamming this addicting alpha.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Merrick on April 01, 2013, 07:31:23 PM
I have a raging boner right now.

On a serious note, where can I get a new clean Stock 1.4 to download? Sage's link no longer works.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: TriTon on April 01, 2013, 08:11:31 PM
I have a raging boner right now.

On a serious note, where can I get a new clean Stock 1.4 to download? Sage's link no longer works.

https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=10649.0 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=10649.0)

Also, here are the bots that run normally so far.

Jackpot
The Boxer
Dementia
Flame Chopper
Civil Disobediance
Stinger
Backyard Ripper

All the others hardly move at all/go in random slight movements or drive backwards at you.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 01, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
Or here (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=4).
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: MikeNCR on April 01, 2013, 08:18:00 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95297TestMWs.jpg)


Here's a few test bots. Seems like some of the old wheels haven't had the mesh updated and still wire as they normally would. The new components seem nice. The other think I noticed is it seems like all the spin motors I've tested are generally slower and more torque-y
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Flying_Chao on April 01, 2013, 08:29:10 PM

Not that good, just testing some stuff.



(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/52585DSL3BotChoy.png)

Can't tell if the components are any good since I have nothing to compare it to. I do like all the new components though, they have great promise.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Pressure on April 01, 2013, 08:29:29 PM
Looking good soo far.

I can't get the Colson wheels to attach to any motor though. Maybe the hitbox needs tweaking.
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: infiniteinertia on April 01, 2013, 08:57:09 PM
Now, I can finally build DSL again
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 01, 2013, 09:32:48 PM
Non-canon new Generation Crush.  :gawe:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43638Crush.PNG)
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 01, 2013, 11:58:41 PM
I can't get the Colson wheels to attach to any motor though. Maybe the hitbox needs tweaking.

Oops.  It seems I didn't do the passthru correctly.  Thanks for finding that.  In the meantime, they should attach if you put them outside the chassis.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43175NOTCHFIXIT.PNG)

...

NOTCH, FIX IT.

Also, what was wrong with the aluminium sheets, for them to be removed?

Tank treads not passing through the chassis was intentional, because frankly that would look dumb.

There was nothing technically wrong with aluminum skirts (or polycarbonate extenders); they were removed for realism reasons.  Aluminum would make horrible skirts in real life because it's so soft and the skirts are so thin, it would just crumple like paper.  And who ever heard of polycarbonate extenders?  Armor, sure, but nobody makes long rods out of plastic.

woah didn't expect this...

is it possible to add more attachment points to the pc545 and pc625 batteries?

Yep, I planned to do that but in the rush to get everything ready for April Fools I forgot.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/95297TestMWs.jpg)


Here's a few test bots. Seems like some of the old wheels haven't had the mesh updated and still wire as they normally would. The new components seem nice. The other think I noticed is it seems like all the spin motors I've tested are generally slower and more torque-y

The only thing I changed with the spin motor power is to very slightly bump up the torque on the Perm 80, TWM3R2, E-tek, and Tornado Mer gearbox.  Also the slimbody got a boost.  Speed should be unchanged.

As for the wheels, it seems from TriTon's post that it's just the shiny hubs and the buzzard wheels that haven't been updated.  I thought I did the shiny hubs, but I guess not.  Must have run into problems with the reflection map.  I need Serge's GMF compiler to compile wheels, but I need Dummy's to compile reflection maps...  As for the buzzard wheels, those have never been stock DSL and they aren't now either, so I'm not worried about them.  If you want wheels with spikes, you now have the option of attaching some razors on the side.   ;)

click can you leave the multiextender as a cheatbot 2 part they're incredible for attatching stuff for IRL and replica designs and artbots and stuff

Hmm, I will consider it.  If there's actually demand for them I suppose there's no reason not to have multiextenders as cheatbot2.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Merrick on April 02, 2013, 05:23:21 AM
Cheers for the stock links, guys. Copying it all over now. Good time to have a day off.  :dumb)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 02, 2013, 05:51:05 AM
Click, are you sure you really want a weapon that deals 5000 damage per hit with 2000 fracture?  It's not exactly a leap of creativity to just throw them on a spin motor you know.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/73569screenshot_1.jpg)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Merrick on April 02, 2013, 05:58:22 AM
I'm enjoying it so far. Lots of nice changes. Obviously it's not finished so it's showing phenomenal potential.


POTENTIAL WHICH I HAVE WASTED ON MY STYLE OF BORING.

MWA HA HA HA.

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc496/TwonkySigs/Cassadega_zpse3d05918.png)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 02, 2013, 06:08:54 AM
...Wondering if the current DSL 2 metagame (the DSL realistic one, of course) will adapt to DSL3 ? Because I'm none too fond of the slaughtering of wedges and good wheels.

There seem to be some very nice additions though... I see you have taken a few ideas from me.

Besides, TWM3R2 Drive seemed like a good idea at the time but the shape just not pratical, unless you like having your 2WD at the center of the bot.

edit : ninja whales

bah
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Conraaa on April 02, 2013, 06:15:09 AM
Besides, TWM3R2 Drive seemed like a good idea at the time but the shape just not pratical, unless you like having your 2WD at the center of the bot.
A million times this.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 02, 2013, 06:38:08 AM
Because I'm none too fond of the slaughtering of wedges and good wheels.
Agree with the wheels, I feel like I am absolutely forced to use hypno wheels on everything now, or vlad/bike/granny wheels if size is required.  The extra HP on the larger wheels means almost nothing when they also comes with enormous hitboxes.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on April 02, 2013, 06:48:06 AM
Now that you've returned, I thought of a few ideas that you might want to incorporate:

Sorry if this list came off as condescending, but  I can't re-word it in any other way.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 02, 2013, 06:52:34 AM
Because I'm none too fond of the slaughtering of wedges and good wheels.
Agree with the wheels, I feel like I am absolutely forced to use hypno wheels on everything now, or vlad/bike/granny wheels if size is required.

Jesus, it's only an alpha, there WILL be more wheels added.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 02, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
So best wheel has changed from techno to hypno ? Eh. Still a problem considering most bots are not NPC-thin.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 02, 2013, 07:02:32 AM
So best wheel has changed from techno to hypno ? Eh. Still a problem considering most bots are not NPC-thin.
2 things happened

1.  Weight is now based on wheel size
2.  Grip is independent of weight.

Which means you use the smallest wheel that has decent grip, turns out that wheel is hypno with 1.2 grip at 10.5 kg, which also happens to be the wheel with the highest grip anyway so you can ignore all other wheels unless you absolutely must have a larger one.  HP is absolutely meaningless because larger wheels will break faster than smaller wheels anyway due to hitbox.

Then again, with half sheet gone, all wedge bots will probably be NPC thin, and everything else a battery box.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on April 02, 2013, 01:00:32 PM
Oh yeah, what about the HMN wheel? It looked like an N12 but was thinner and lighter.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Mystic2000 on April 02, 2013, 01:22:52 PM
Just tested this and:
Click, you are a god
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Dangerfield7up on April 02, 2013, 01:28:11 PM
I WUV YOU!!!
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: AlexGRFan97 on April 02, 2013, 03:18:32 PM
Oh wait, remember Darkrat's wheel shell? Why not increase their weight and add attachment points so they become actual wheels?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Sage on April 03, 2013, 04:13:25 PM
WHY DID I NOT SEE THIS ALREADY

CLICK I LOVE YOU
Title: Re: DSL3 is cancelled.
Post by: RedSawn on April 03, 2013, 08:13:48 PM
Non-canon new Generation Crush.  :gawe:

Now I want to build Rookie bot remakes too x) Guess I'll need to port over Ronin II as well.

In the meantime:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/32314barbershop.png)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 04, 2013, 05:19:14 AM
Downloading it. Let's see how the DSL standard metagame has survived...
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Badger on April 06, 2013, 11:46:32 AM
I uploaded a ready-to-go version for convenience's sake. Please do tell me if I messed up, I can't test it due to RA2 not working on my PC.


Download via Dropbox (https://dl.dropbox.com/s/ng6lyeqf5nlcbn3/DSL%203%20Beta%201.rar?token_hash=AAFirfw9J0BAyfqOEmsEhuiC52JMNz3H7YBPkZZKF1udHw&dl=1)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 06, 2013, 07:45:43 PM
Been having a lot of fun with this beta! :D


Also, just wanted to thank you Click for including some of the replica component gmfs, as with a bit of .txt file making...


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/29761Picture1.jpg)


You can get a couple of the replicas ;D
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 06, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Been having a lot of fun with this beta! :D


Also, just wanted to thank you Click for including some of the replica component gmfs, as with a bit of .txt file making...


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/29761Picture1.jpg)


You can get a couple of the replicas ;D
:D
 
 
Which ones in particular? I can definitely see Typhoon 2 there.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 06, 2013, 08:43:29 PM
I've only discovered Typhoon 2 and Hypno-Disc so far.


While I'm in the Replica mood, I'm hoping to lighten Click's load a bit and edit some of the replicas that needed some work done. So far, i've managed to shrink Panic Attack and Thermidor's components to make for more Heavyweight sized robots (As opposed to the Superheavyweight sized ones that we see in DSL 2.1) and i'm hoping to do the same for Firestorms in the near future :P I have a few ideas of what to do, but it'll take a bit of time :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 06, 2013, 08:53:22 PM
Razer is in desperate need of shrinking, hah.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 06, 2013, 08:56:35 PM
Lol I know... tbh though I don't even wanna start thinking about Razer atm.... the ammount of vertexes.... *shiver*
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Kossokei on April 06, 2013, 08:57:39 PM
Actually, Click did build a new Razer but idk if it's the right size.

It certainly functions right :D
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 06, 2013, 09:50:36 PM
Been working on resizing Pussycat for the last hour :P (It's currently 3:48am here... i'll go to sleep once i've done this post xD)


Here is my version:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/68785Picture2.jpg)


The differences:


-Now a Heavyweight


-Bit wider like the original, also gives it more balance


-Recoloured blade (Grey instead of beige)


Bout it :P Thoughts?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: MassimoV on April 06, 2013, 09:57:16 PM
Sweet. I like the caster too.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Dangerfield7up on April 07, 2013, 05:09:15 AM
I am impressed! Can't wait see your finished Thermidor! :D (It was massive!)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 07, 2013, 05:16:21 AM
Thanks :P Needs to be rebuilt in DSL 3.0, but hopefully shouldnt be too difficult :)


Also, had to resize Pussycat again as I thought she was a bit too big :P


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/54999Picture3.jpg)


Oh, and I also 'unlocked' Hypno Disc ;P


Thinking my next port of call will be Chaos 2... making the body more square, giving it more power behind the flipper and making it a tiny bit bigger (Maybe by a factor of about 1.1/1.05?)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 07, 2013, 05:19:34 AM
Pussycat looks a bit to wide. also something needs to be done about it staying on it`s "back" when flipped
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 07, 2013, 06:22:03 AM
Awesomeness. I'd love to use HypnoDisc, could you show me how to do so?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 07, 2013, 06:48:34 AM
It's just a case of creating the text files for the components, however with Hypno Disc I did have to fiddle around with the GMF a lot.


Here's my one if anyone would like :P


https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/hypnodisc.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/hypnodisc.rar)


Just extract the folder and text files to the Components folder, and the .bot file to the robot designs folder :) (Sorry for leaking some stuff, Click xD)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 07, 2013, 07:14:21 AM
It's just a case of creating the text files for the components, however with Hypno Disc I did have to fiddle around with the GMF a lot.


Here's my one if anyone would like :P


https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/hypnodisc.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/hypnodisc.rar)


Just extract the folder and text files to the Components folder, and the .bot file to the robot designs folder :) (Sorry for leaking some stuff, Click xD)
Cheers, Wham. The only problem however, is that whilst I've put everything into their correct places (Including the HypnoDisc bot file into the Robot Designs folder), the HypnoDisc replica does not show up on the "Import Replicas" list when I try to import it into a Team. I've no idea why it's doing it, but does anyone know why and how to fix it?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 07, 2013, 02:15:39 PM
Dunno why it's doing that :S


Anyway, the new Chaos 2 :P


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87544Picture4.jpg)


Now square :P And a bit bigger :) Also more powerful - Can easily launch a bot OOTA :)
I might get round to sorting out the slope on the top of the sides :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Mecha on April 07, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/43977Robosmiley.PNG)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 07, 2013, 04:32:09 PM
Yes, that's the strange thing- I've no idea why it's happening, I've done everything to it I need to.


I love the look of the new Chaos 2, though- has that annoying issue with its flipper attaching from underneath rather than the top been solved?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 07, 2013, 06:19:51 PM
I'm also very much liking the looks of the new Thermidor 2 and Pussycat. In the meantime, I'll try and reinstall it and see if that helps.
 
 
EDIT: OK, I've got it working now- looks like the reinstall helped it out tremendously. I can use HypnoDisc now, and it's just so much fun to use. Would it be alright if you could also send e the other four replicas you have, Wham? Thanks.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 07, 2013, 11:37:04 PM
I've only discovered Typhoon 2 and Hypno-Disc so far.


While I'm in the Replica mood, I'm hoping to lighten Click's load a bit and edit some of the replicas that needed some work done. So far, i've managed to shrink Panic Attack and Thermidor's components to make for more Heavyweight sized robots (As opposed to the Superheavyweight sized ones that we see in DSL 2.1) and i'm hoping to do the same for Firestorms in the near future :P I have a few ideas of what to do, but it'll take a bit of time :P

GF93 already did Panic Attack a while ago.  I don't believe he shrunk any of the components though.  I was more of the opinion that some of the smaller bots (Bulldog Breed and Dominator 2, in particular) needed to be bigger.

But that would be fantastic if you worked on updating some of the replicas.  Then I will just need to do some .txt file editing to get the components properly balanced.

One thing to take note of, though; I'm trying to phase out all those weird hidden replica parts like the flatmotor, AU replica motor, and darkcell batteries.  Make the cheatbot2 component list a little less cluttered.  I want to use stock parts whenever possible in the new replicas.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 07, 2013, 11:52:10 PM
So best wheel has changed from techno to hypno ? Eh. Still a problem considering most bots are not NPC-thin.
2 things happened

1.  Weight is now based on wheel size
2.  Grip is independent of weight.

Which means you use the smallest wheel that has decent grip, turns out that wheel is hypno with 1.2 grip at 10.5 kg, which also happens to be the wheel with the highest grip anyway so you can ignore all other wheels unless you absolutely must have a larger one.  HP is absolutely meaningless because larger wheels will break faster than smaller wheels anyway due to hitbox.

Then again, with half sheet gone, all wedge bots will probably be NPC thin, and everything else a battery box.

Trust 123 to be first to break the game.  But that's a good thing, I need to get things like this worked out for the final release.  I never thought of the fact that big wheels will get hit more--perhaps if I put HP on an exponential scale?  Or make grip increase relative to size.

Also no, I'm not sure I want a weapon that deals 5000 damage per hit with 2000 fracture.  The weapon balancing is probably the aspect of DSL3 I'm least confident about right now.  There's a good chance it will change in future updates.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 08, 2013, 02:53:08 AM
Well even back in DSL 2.1 the 4 npc/hypno has always been the more sturdy choice over the 2 npc/techno setup.  Techno was use purely for it's awesome grip.

Especially after the introduction of wheel connection point, wheels can be easily protected from the side as well.

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/89934screenshot_11.jpg)

multiple 10cm carbon fiber was used to buffer multiple side hits with it's 300 fractures.  If I really want to invest I can put a real side armor on it, and will still come out cheaper than using larger wheels.

Personally I will only buy heavier wheels for increase speed, unless wheels become more durable than armor pieces.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 08, 2013, 03:50:06 AM
I've only discovered Typhoon 2 and Hypno-Disc so far.


While I'm in the Replica mood, I'm hoping to lighten Click's load a bit and edit some of the replicas that needed some work done. So far, i've managed to shrink Panic Attack and Thermidor's components to make for more Heavyweight sized robots (As opposed to the Superheavyweight sized ones that we see in DSL 2.1) and i'm hoping to do the same for Firestorms in the near future :P I have a few ideas of what to do, but it'll take a bit of time :P

GF93 already did Panic Attack a while ago.  I don't believe he shrunk any of the components though.  I was more of the opinion that some of the smaller bots (Bulldog Breed and Dominator 2, in particular) needed to be bigger.

But that would be fantastic if you worked on updating some of the replicas.  Then I will just need to do some .txt file editing to get the components properly balanced.

One thing to take note of, though; I'm trying to phase out all those weird hidden replica parts like the flatmotor, AU replica motor, and darkcell batteries.  Make the cheatbot2 component list a little less cluttered.  I want to use stock parts whenever possible in the new replicas.


If that's a job you want done, consider me hired! :D


And well one thing I'm thinking could be done is some of the replica components don't really need to be there - like the different shell, ect., so maybe setting their hidden vaule to 1 will make them almost invisible when it comes to the components list, and also makes the cheatbot2 list less cluttered aswell (as desired :P)


GF- Well i'm going to be leaving little details till the end more, and along with the top slopes, the flippers AP is on my to do list :)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 08, 2013, 05:25:39 AM
GF93 already did Panic Attack a while ago.  I don't believe he shrunk any of the components though.  I was more of the opinion that some of the smaller bots (Bulldog Breed and Dominator 2, in particular) needed to be bigger.

But that would be fantastic if you worked on updating some of the replicas.  Then I will just need to do some .txt file editing to get the components properly balanced.

One thing to take note of, though; I'm trying to phase out all those weird hidden replica parts like the flatmotor, AU replica motor, and darkcell batteries.  Make the cheatbot2 component list a little less cluttered.  I want to use stock parts whenever possible in the new replicas.


If that's a job you want done, consider me hired! :D


And well one thing I'm thinking could be done is some of the replica components don't really need to be there - like the different shell, ect., so maybe setting their hidden vaule to 1 will make them almost invisible when it comes to the components list, and also makes the cheatbot2 list less cluttered aswell (as desired :P)


GF- Well i'm going to be leaving little details till the end more, and along with the top slopes, the flippers AP is on my to do list :)
@Click- Yes. To save you looking for it though, Wham-
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62857Panic5.png)
Made it using the textures from RW: Extreme Destruction. Its size was intentional on my part, since Panic Attack was a pretty big robot in real life. I've also since updated the skirts on it, so that they're more consistent with the rest of the body- would you like me to send you the textures for those as well, Click?
 
 
@Wham- OK, that's fair enough. Better to have it once it's finished after all, right? One thing I could suggest with it is to rig it up like Bulldog Breed's flipper, with the top half of the flipper acting as a burst motor. That way, it'd fire realistically, and you'd kill two birds with one stone with the whole "Replica Parts doubling as useful parts of the robot" approach.
 
I'm very much looking forward to seeing it if HypnoDisc is anything to go by- keep up the good work, I reckon we'll be in for a real treat once they're all finished.   :approve:
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Kid_Krusher13 on April 08, 2013, 05:31:52 AM
Why the heck does the file have to be .rar THE ONE GOD DAMN FILE I CANT DO sh** WITH CAUSE I GOT NO MONEY TO PAY FOR WINRAR.DAMN IT NOTCH!
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 08, 2013, 05:37:28 AM
pay for winrar?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Mr. AS on April 08, 2013, 05:37:44 AM
contrary to what winrar says, the 40 day free trial never runs out

even if you cant extract it with winrar there are plenty other extractors out there in the deep blue internet
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 08, 2013, 06:07:41 AM
EWWW Winrar

7-Zip Master Race.  Does everything better and is FREE.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 08, 2013, 06:46:46 AM
>pay for winrar
>2013
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Badger on April 08, 2013, 06:50:37 AM
EWWW Winrar

7-Zip Master Race.  Does everything better and is FREE.
Really? I have both installed and I never use 7zip. It's always quicker and more convenient to use Winrar IMO, what with it being on the right-click menu and stuff.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: powerrave on April 08, 2013, 12:15:25 PM
EWWW Winrar

7-Zip Master Race.  Does everything better and is FREE.
Really? I have both installed and I never use 7zip. It's always quicker and more convenient to use Winrar IMO, what with it being on the right-click menu and stuff.
Next to that, seeing the trial never ends, doesn't that mean that it's also just free?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 08, 2013, 12:18:41 PM
EWWW Winrar

7-Zip Master Race.  Does everything better and is FREE.
Really? I have both installed and I never use 7zip. It's always quicker and more convenient to use Winrar IMO, what with it being on the right-click menu and stuff.
Next to that, seeing the trial never ends, doesn't that mean that it's also just free?
Basically, yes.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Flying_Chao on April 08, 2013, 12:20:47 PM
7-Zip can be added to the right click menu. That's how mine is.

Anyway, keep up the good work everyone.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 08, 2013, 02:39:00 PM
GF - Didn't think PA was that big really :S And I really like the textures on your PA, would you mind sending them to me?
Only thing I'd have to say is I don't think PA was that flat :P


Here's my version:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59166Picture5.jpg)


Only thing i'd maybe have one up on is that mine uses my altered 'Crusher Motor' for the lifter, making it a bit more of a realistic lifter. Doesn't have a lot of power though, so works better as a pusher :P Also, can't really AI it at the mo - it might require a new kind of python file (I'm thinking the same might be required for Razer, and I might work on Plunderbird 5 and Suicidal Tendencies replicas, which will require the same).
The type of python file i'll need will be one like LittleMetalFriend, except it focuses on the servo a bit more, and puts the weapon back to the original position when a robot is out of the smart zone (I find the current LMF py sometimes forgets to raise a crusher arm, ect. when a robot is not in contact, if that makes sense :P) Also, i'd need it to work like a pusher more, instead of stopping when a robot is in the smartzone. Anyone know anything like this? :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 08, 2013, 02:53:00 PM
I don't think PA was that flat :P

The series 6 version was definitely flat; it was a terrible prototype. Series 7 also was quite flat:

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091206004353/robotwars/images/d/d5/Tough_as_nails_vs_panic_attack.JPG)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 08, 2013, 05:51:38 PM
GF - Didn't think PA was that big really :S And I really like the textures on your PA, would you mind sending them to me?
Only thing I'd have to say is I don't think PA was that flat :P


Here's my version:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59166Picture5.jpg)


Only thing i'd maybe have one up on is that mine uses my altered 'Crusher Motor' for the lifter, making it a bit more of a realistic lifter. Doesn't have a lot of power though, so works better as a pusher :P Also, can't really AI it at the mo - it might require a new kind of python file (I'm thinking the same might be required for Razer, and I might work on Plunderbird 5 and Suicidal Tendencies replicas, which will require the same).
The type of python file i'll need will be one like LittleMetalFriend, except it focuses on the servo a bit more, and puts the weapon back to the original position when a robot is out of the smart zone (I find the current LMF py sometimes forgets to raise a crusher arm, ect. when a robot is not in contact, if that makes sense :P) Also, i'd need it to work like a pusher more, instead of stopping when a robot is in the smartzone. Anyone know anything like this? :P
Oh yes, the textures for everything are here- Ducky provided them for me originally. I've also provided a download link for the replica itself along with its skinned parts, so you can see how big it is and how it works for yourself, if you like. (DSL2)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/70927PA textures.jpg)
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/6632PA3_GF.zip (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/6632PA3_GF.zip)
 
Personally, asides from a few issues with textures and the need to convert its internal components for DSL3 use, I'm very happy with it. Yours is good as well, but I think it's too tall and too slim, and no offence, but I really don't like how the front of the Srimech lid cuts into the body like that, nor how the skirts are too small for it.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Badger on April 08, 2013, 05:54:35 PM
>pay for winrar
>2013
>pay for any software
>Piratebay exists

Seriously, I even have a USB with a pirated Windows 7 Ultimate on it lying around.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 08, 2013, 06:02:03 PM
I don't think PA was that flat :P

The series 6 version was definitely flat; it was a terrible prototype. Series 7 also was quite flat:

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091206004353/robotwars/images/d/d5/Tough_as_nails_vs_panic_attack.JPG)
Aye. I based it on the RW Extreme 1/Series 5 version in terms of both livery and dimensions. It was still a very low machine, which gave it its renowned low centre of gravity.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 08, 2013, 06:49:15 PM
I wonder if Trov is helping out with this.. I hope sa actually

Darkrat
Starcore
Lu-tze
-
Trovaner
Clickbeetle

sounds good... right?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 10, 2013, 03:21:30 AM
Few more updates :P


Retextured Chaos 2 and updated the flipper AP problem:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31566Picture6.jpg)


New Wheely Big Cheese:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66042Picture7.jpg)


New Firestorm:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/13565Picture8.jpg)


(Not too keen on the texture for Firestorm... if anyone wants a go at working on it feel free :P)


Thoughts? :)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Ducky on April 10, 2013, 04:05:17 AM
Oooh looks brill! Some of em have never looked quite right  :smile: looks like some of them are Extreme Destruction textures too :mrgreen: you gonna upload some of these?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 10, 2013, 04:09:54 AM
the red circle on wbc looks a bit huge. also: is it`s underside like the real thing or does it have the weird metalplate thingy it has in DSL for some reason?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 10, 2013, 05:06:48 AM
Thanks Ducky :) And yep they are Extreme Destruction textures ;P Would to be able to get any from AOD? Just that I would love to work on Terrorhurtz and Mortis? :S And well I am hoping to... might make a thread about it later on ;P


Thyrus - Not really :S And it's the metal plate for the moment, but to make the underside realistic is also on my 'to do' list :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 10, 2013, 05:14:59 AM
great! I loke the chaos 2 replica alot
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 07:24:36 AM
Few more updates :P


Retextured Chaos 2 and updated the flipper AP problem:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/31566Picture6.jpg)


New Wheely Big Cheese:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/66042Picture7.jpg)


New Firestorm:


(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/13565Picture8.jpg)


(Not too keen on the texture for Firestorm... if anyone wants a go at working on it feel free :P)


Thoughts? :)
You know, if I could +1 you for those, I definitely would. They look superb, particularly in how Chaos 2 and Wheely Big Cheese are with their new improvements, totally improved from how they were in DSL2.   :claping
 

Firestorm looks fantastic as well- its proportions appear far more accurate, and looks much more like the real robot as well. My only criticism however, is that the paintjob isn't quite right yet. What it needs is to have the yellow pattern moved up a bit to near the top of the wedge, as shown with Firestorm 4 here-
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/84197firestorm4.png)
But other than that, it's brilliant- do the rear wheels protrude out the back like the real thing as well?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 10, 2013, 07:58:17 AM
Cheers! :) And well if you want to have a go at the texture then be my guest ;P I'll send ya the robot if you do :P


And they do! :) Might need to be moved back a little, but hopefully I can do that easily with a bit of BFE :)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 09:01:01 AM
Cheers! :) And well if you want to have a go at the texture then be my guest ;P I'll send ya the robot if you do :P


And they do! :) Might need to be moved back a little, but hopefully I can do that easily with a bit of BFE :)
That's quite alright. I'll be happy to give it a try as well- after all, if I can skin Panic Attack as I did, then hopefully I should be able to the same with Firestorm, too. Could you throw in Chaos 2 as well if it's alright? I might try skinning its chassis to resemble the internal macguffins, like on the previous one.
 
And I'm glad that's so- like the revision of Firestorm I uploaded on the Robot Exchange, it should be able to perform the "Rear up and shove an opponent OOTA" stunt that the real Firestorm was known for. I'm looking forward to seeing it, and hopefully I'll be able to help out on it where I can.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Ducky on April 10, 2013, 01:54:06 PM
Thanks Ducky :) And yep they are Extreme Destruction textures ;P Would to be able to get any from AOD? Just that I would love to work on Terrorhurtz and Mortis? :S

Hmmm, I extracted files from my AOD Playstation 2 game using the same program (QuickBMS), although the files seem a little different. There very few .bmp files, and the rest seem to be .wad and .idx, don't have a clue about these O_o I presume if I had AOD on PC the file structure would be similar to my Extreme Destruction on PC (Damn why did I get rid of my AOD for PC!) So looks like it'll just be ED stuff at the mo.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 10, 2013, 05:13:40 PM
Ahh ok then :/ Thanks anyway! :)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Dangerfield7up on April 10, 2013, 06:15:30 PM
This Firestorm does not Havokcrazyglitch does it? :/
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 06:29:46 PM
This Firestorm does not Havokcrazyglitch does it? :/
Nope, I'm quite sure they'll have made sure of it- the problem lay there in the Judge Burst that got put into it in DSL2.1 rather than the Lifter Motor it originally had, causing it to fly everywhere whenever it fired. There is actually a fix for it somewhere, if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Merrick on April 10, 2013, 06:31:28 PM
This Firestorm does not Havokcrazyglitch does it? :/
Nope, I'm quite sure they'll have made sure of it- the problem lay there in the Judge Burst that got put into it in DSL2.1 rather than the Lifter Motor it originally had, causing it to fly everywhere whenever it fired. There is actually a fix for it somewhere, if I recall correctly.

https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Firestorm_DSL_2.1_Fix (https://gametechmods.com/RA2wiki/index.php?title=Firestorm_DSL_2.1_Fix)

So easy even I can do it.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 10, 2013, 06:35:18 PM
As you can see, I was the one that did that tutoiral, so of course the havok glitch is sorted out ;)


And GF - I see your PM, i'll send ya the files tommorow :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 06:47:19 PM
And GF - I see your PM, i'll send ya the files tommorow :P
Excellent- thank you, I'll be sure to do the best job I can with them.
 
 
If I'm lucky, perhaps it'll get my name in the credits as well- now that'd be a nice bonus.   :approve:
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 10, 2013, 06:48:08 PM
Good Job with the Replicas

I have a Idea how about do the UK Robot Wars Series Champions and 2nd, 3rd and 4th place robots for more exticement I'd love that and also the Series 1 Grand Finalists

Thx u

Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 10, 2013, 06:53:44 PM
Whatmettnuht I added you as a friend because i watched ur series 1 and loved it
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: FOTEPX on April 10, 2013, 06:54:44 PM
Whatmettnuht I added you as a friend because i watched ur series 1 and loved it

Don't DP. Also, off-topic.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 10, 2013, 06:59:55 PM
Oh Whatmettnuht How about all the bots from series 1-series 7?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 07:04:42 PM
Good Job with the Replicas

I have a Idea how about do the UK Robot Wars Series Champions and 2nd, 3rd and 4th place robots for more exticement I'd love that and also the Series 1 Grand Finalists

Thx u
One of the main points brought up at the start of it was that there weren't going to be many new replicas, if any at all- on the Replica side of things, it's more dedicated to fixing and refining the existing ones to improve them massively in both looks and fighting capabilities, and allocating them to their IRL weight classes. Even still, five of the six RW Champions are already there, and you've got Pussycat, HypnoDisc, Storm II, Firestorm and the like, which account for a good percentage of the ones you mentioned.
 
 
I was however, able to produce that comparison of the two Chaos 2s you wanted-
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/10403Chaos2s.png)
The old one looked decent enough on the outside, but the skin was a bit wrong on the flipper, and it was too thin. It was worse in how it functioned, though- it was extremely light for a Heavyweight, used RADs for slow and wobbly steering that caused it to handle like a shopping cart.
Worst of all, the flipper was powered by a Lifter Motor and had the attachment point on the back, causing it to appear like it was going into the chassis each time it fired. I suppose it was OK for its time, but it was definitely one of the replicas in most dire need of improvement, IMHO.
 
The new one however, appears to improve on the original in every way, and appears to be able to actually fight effectively in the Heavyweight Class. New drive makes it faster, smoother and easier to control, and its flipper now has a more powerful burst motor-as well as having the attachment point moved to its proper place so that it fires correctly.
At the same time, it's been improved on the outside- it's better-proportioned, being wider and slightly flatter than it was, and with new textures to give it a much cleaner look.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: FOTEPX on April 10, 2013, 07:07:58 PM
Looks very nice, GF! I'm suprised you can pull stuff like that off... Where the heck did you learn them skills?  :gawe:

Also, does the speed of the robot match the "20MPH top speeds" of the original Chaos 2?






Also, LDogMasher... Uuhm...
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/86415Jesus.png)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 07:10:24 PM
Looks very nice, GF! I'm suprised you can pull stuff like that off... Where the heck did you learn them skills?  :gawe:

Also, does the speed of the robot match the "20MPH top speeds" of the original Chaos 2?
As flattered as I am, I'm afraid I didn't make it- Wham did, so credit goes to him, there. I am helping him skin it though along with the new Firestorm, and I've provided my Panic Attack replica for DSL3. Also, hey- haven't heard from you in a while.   :approve:
 
And it will do- the wider chassis easily accomodates more powerful motors.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: FOTEPX on April 10, 2013, 07:14:39 PM
As flattered as I am, I'm afraid I didn't make it- Wham did, so credit goes to him, there. I am helping him skin it though along with the new Firestorm, and I've provided my Panic Attack replica for DSL3. Also, hey- haven't heard from you in a while.   :approve:
 
And it will do- the wider chassis easily accomodates more powerful motors.

Well, my hat goes off to Wham. These replicas are freaking incredble, and his polygons and your skins are like salt and... uuhm... more... saal-

The reason why you haven't heard from me in a while is because I've been a way for a while now. But, I'm back now, and hopefully, for a good year or so. Here's hoping, at least.

Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 07:21:54 PM
As flattered as I am, I'm afraid I didn't make it- Wham did, so credit goes to him, there. I am helping him skin it though along with the new Firestorm, and I've provided my Panic Attack replica for DSL3. Also, hey- haven't heard from you in a while.   :approve:
 
And it will do- the wider chassis easily accomodates more powerful motors.

Well, my hat goes off to Wham. These replicas are freaking incredble, and his polygons and your skins are like salt and... uuhm... more... saal-

The reason why you haven't heard from me in a while is because I've been a way for a while now. But, I'm back now, and hopefully, for a good year or so. Here's hoping, at least.
Indeed- I've been very impressed with them so far, and hopefully with a bit of my painting wizardry, it should all come together nicely to produce some truly fantastic machines for DSL3. Almost like the Fish to Wham's Chips and Newspaper, you could say.  :P
 
 
But yeah, that's understandable. I've been away for a while myself due to College and ARC taking priority and generally not feeling much motivation anymore, only having the occasional look-in. Now that Noodle's been eliminated and jobs are open for DSL3 however, I feel good about coming back and lending a hand where I can.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 10, 2013, 07:26:42 PM
I can't wait to try it
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 07:31:58 PM
I can't wait to try it
Indeed, it's going to be a blast once they're all ready. For now though, watch this space- once I've finished sorting Chaos 2 and Firestorm out, I'll show the finished versions here.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Merrick on April 10, 2013, 07:33:39 PM
Will the sides of the new Chaos 2 fall off like they're made of cardboard this time around?  :dumb)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 10, 2013, 07:34:06 PM
and jobs are open for DSL3

Where, and when did this happen!?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 10, 2013, 07:36:33 PM
Will the sides of the new Chaos 2 fall off like they're made of cardboard this time around?  :dumb)
Nope, they shouldn't do this time.
 
 
Where, and when did this happen!?
They always have been- Click did say any and all help with DSL3 is appreciated. That, and with Wham working on the RW Replicas, that's given me something to work on. Suits me down to the ground.   ;)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 11, 2013, 04:32:31 AM
Would just like to quickly clarrify some of the details for certain :P


Chaos 2 is now -
Faster (NPC speed drive)
Stronger flipper (I can easily place an 800kg robot on the flipper, charge forwards with it and launch it out of the arena)
Correctly proportioned :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Ducky on April 11, 2013, 05:00:37 AM
Wow well done guys this is all looking amazing! Glad the RW:ED textures have come of use! Shall be great to use in DSL 3! How's Hypno-disc looking nowadays? Never seemed to look quite right in my opinion, either the body being too chunky/large/small in comparison to the disk etc.

As mentioned in a different thread the full soundtrack from the game can be extracted too (includes songs not used in the game) Also I have some fairly decent "3, 2, 1", "standby", "cease", plus the sfx and pit siren sound effect I found online. so it would be good to make use of these somewhere too, as I have done with my DSL 2 game here.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 11, 2013, 05:12:59 AM
I did post a pic of Hypno-Disc earlier in the thread :P And if you could, would you mind sending me some of those? I might need them for a different/parallell project... :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Ducky on April 11, 2013, 05:58:21 AM
Oh sorry yeah just had a look :p
And ahh yes I'll get to work on that, although would they be of use to everyone on here as a new thread like I did for the texture pack do ya think?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 11, 2013, 06:17:53 AM
Would just like to quickly clarrify some of the details for certain :P


Chaos 2 is now -
Faster (NPC speed drive)
Stronger flipper (I can easily place an 800kg robot on the flipper, charge forwards with it and launch it out of the arena)
Correctly proportioned :P
Excellent, that's good to confirm- so anyway, do you think you can send me the aforementioned two fairly soon? As soon as I've recieved them, I can begin working on them.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Dangerfield7up on April 11, 2013, 08:37:56 AM
This should be renamed 'The GoldenDuckyNuht epic thread'.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 11, 2013, 02:35:01 PM
ROFL x5  :laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing

srry for Smiley spam
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 11, 2013, 03:23:04 PM
ROFL x5  :laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing

srry for Smiley spam


Don't do this, especially if you know it is wrong.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 12, 2013, 01:59:08 PM
I know this is wrong ok Geez Y?????
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 12, 2013, 02:07:03 PM
I know this is wrong ok Geez Y?????

Then why in the nine did you do it ?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Dangerfield7up on April 12, 2013, 02:36:36 PM
Immatureness is for the playground. Not for the main forum.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 13, 2013, 03:28:48 AM
anyway, How the Replicas coming along Can I Help in anyway?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Merrick on April 13, 2013, 07:35:21 AM
Can I Help in anyway?

You could stop posting.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 13, 2013, 08:21:19 AM
Well played.  :P

But yes, I have to say- with how some of the new replicas are looking, it should all be pretty good once it's finished. As Chaos 2 appears more-or-less finished, which ones are currently being worked on?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 13, 2013, 11:28:35 AM
Can I Help in anyway?

You could stop posting.

n00bs whacking n00bs

Know what you were complaining about Inf whacking you for no reason ? You're reenacting it again.

Just stop. LDogMasher may be a clueless newbie, it's no reason to whack him when he has done nothing wrong and is in fact trying to help.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Merrick on April 13, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
We were all thinking it.


From the posts of the other thread, I was given the impression that acting like a cock was standard practice around here.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: powerrave on April 13, 2013, 05:07:55 PM
Like I said there, that's what you're trying to make of it. Don't bring back the same trouble and stay on topic. It's a forum, not a playground.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 13, 2013, 05:42:03 PM
Naryar's Right guys

So Can I Whatmett?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 13, 2013, 06:19:48 PM
Well what can you do?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: kill343gs on April 13, 2013, 06:22:02 PM
Can I Help in anyway?

You could stop posting.

Shut up, you're watched for a reason.

Everybody back on topic. Next time be helpful instead of hurtful.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 13, 2013, 06:27:28 PM
Imporve the Replicas?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 13, 2013, 06:30:46 PM
Imporve the Replicas?


The job that I'm doing?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 13, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
ya
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 13, 2013, 07:02:55 PM
Imporve the Replicas?
Hadn't you noticed?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 13, 2013, 07:25:57 PM
Not even going to bother replying...


Anyway, started work on the new 259 :) Can be seen in my RW thread :)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 13, 2013, 07:28:58 PM
Anyway, started work on the new 259 :) Can be seen in my RW thread :)
259? Ah, fantastic- that one definitely needed some improvement with how crappy its disc used to be an all. Going to take a look now, so I'm looking forward to seeing what you've done to improve it.  ^^
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 13, 2013, 09:46:17 PM
I don't think PA was that flat :P

The series 6 version was definitely flat; it was a terrible prototype. Series 7 also was quite flat:

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091206004353/robotwars/images/d/d5/Tough_as_nails_vs_panic_attack.JPG)

It looks like Wham was going after this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-OdawE3s60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-OdawE3s60)

I like GF93's better, but now that you mention it, it might need to be slightly taller.  Also, it's skinned like PA3 but is shaped more like the series 7 version, so some skin updates are in order.

Overall, I'm very pleased with what I see here.  I feel the Robot Wars replicas are in good hands.  Please send them over when they're ready.  If you need any gmf work done that you can't handle, just send me what you can do and I'll finish it.  Meanwhile, I'll focus on the U.S. replicas.  Also Explosion and Eruption.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on April 14, 2013, 02:47:19 AM
Where are all the DSL2 replica weapons and parts ? Do you have any intention to include them ?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: RpJk on April 14, 2013, 03:01:56 AM
Can Someone explain in one post what is being changed/added in DSL3?

Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 14, 2013, 03:30:47 AM
Can i help with anything else like test Them?

and Did some people try getting on the internet in DSL 2.1?


Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Dangerfield7up on April 14, 2013, 04:02:06 AM
Can i help with anything else like test Them?

Wham tests them anyway.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 14, 2013, 04:44:51 AM
Where are all the DSL2 replica weapons and parts ? Do you have any intention to include them ?
Some of them will be included, Nary. Most of the additional replica parts (In particular the ones that were too good or too useless) and cheat components (Like the Flatmotor and the Darkcell Batteries) will be cleared out so that everything is less cluttered, and more streamlined. Otherwise, they'll be keeping most of the ones that currently serve as part of the standard DSL metagame.
 
At the same time, they'll also try to use stock DSL3 parts wherever possible- built mostly to the same rules as the other robots to make it more balanced, but also with a few specialised parts that work for other functions whenever possible.
HypnoDisc for instance, is built on a flat 5mm Titanium chassis (Removing the need for that fat and complex custom frame it used to have), and the top part of its chassis with the spikes doubles as a burst motor for its self-righting mechanism.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 14, 2013, 04:58:12 AM
Can Someone explain in one post what is being changed/added in DSL3?
But of course.   :P

My general plans for DSL 3.0 are as follows:

-The existing replicas will fight better.
-All the replicas will be moved to their real weight classes. For example, Mechavore will be a HW and T-Minus will be a MW.
-There will be a new, official SHW class with its own yellow 'SH' icon in the bot selection screen. Replica SHW's such as Minion, Vladiator, and Sir Killalot will fall into this category.
-There will be a new Race game mode in Exhibition, which will include at least one straight drag strip and one oval track with laps, both of which will be compatible with AI. There will also be new AI bots designed for racing.
-Some general component balancing issues, particularly batteries and wheels, will be addressed.
-A few other random small things and bug fixes.

My plan is to make the replicas' difficulty level on par with the stock DSL AI.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 14, 2013, 05:14:45 AM
Also, it's skinned like PA3 but is shaped more like the series 7 version, so some skin updates are in order.
Not to be rude about it Click, but PA3 and the Series 7 version were essentially the same robot- except that the latter had an anti-hammer cushioned plate rather than the self-righting lid that time around.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 14, 2013, 05:36:41 AM
Also, it's skinned like PA3 but is shaped more like the series 7 version, so some skin updates are in order.
Not to be rude about it Click, but PA3 and the Series 7 version were essentially the same robot- except that the latter had an anti-hammer cushioned plate rather than the self-righting lid that time around.

What about PA with a white Spider? I saw him w/ 1
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 14, 2013, 05:38:34 AM
Also, it's skinned like PA3 but is shaped more like the series 7 version, so some skin updates are in order.
Not to be rude about it Click, but PA3 and the Series 7 version were essentially the same robot- except that the latter had an anti-hammer cushioned plate rather than the self-righting lid that time around.

What about PA with a white Spider? I saw him w/ 1
That's the Series 7 version you're thinking of.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 14, 2013, 05:48:29 AM
oh thxs
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on April 14, 2013, 05:59:08 AM
oh thxs
No problem.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 14, 2013, 06:32:40 AM
In responce to Nary, 90% of the components used in the replicas are being put under hidden = 1 so that the noobs don't have access to them. Only the components deemed useful are used, but they're under Extras, sorta giving them their own section. At least thats what im doing in me RW AI Pack :P Whether Click want's something different done that's up to him :)
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 14, 2013, 06:34:56 AM
Can i help with anything else like test Them?

and Did some people try getting on the internet in DSL 2.1?

you mean the multiplayer?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Probably Rob on April 14, 2013, 07:25:39 AM
Me and an Australian have played quite a few online matches recently. 's been fun.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: nicsan2009 on April 14, 2013, 01:27:32 PM
This is probably the motivation I need to get back into RA2. Thanks Click.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: LDogMasher on April 14, 2013, 04:41:11 PM
Can i help with anything else like test Them?

and Did some people try getting on the internet in DSL 2.1?

you mean the multiplayer?

ya
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 15, 2013, 12:59:31 AM
Where are all the DSL2 replica weapons and parts ? Do you have any intention to include them ?

They will be added when the replicas are.  The reason I didn't include them yet is because some of them might be changed, or eliminated/hidden altogether.  For example, the new Minion disc is bigger than the old one, and the old bracket and wheelguard components are no longer used.

So yes, Lightning spikes will be coming back.  Prospects are looking grim for the Firestorm flipper though, and especially the "Firestorm stuff".  On the other hand, some new components like Nightmare teeth will be appearing.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Mecha on April 15, 2013, 11:35:04 AM
Do you think this will have that race mode you talked about in the DSL3 thread?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 17, 2013, 02:12:52 PM
Hey Click!
This is a suggestion for the armor plates.
I love them. They make building so much better but:

- the "solid" one is 3 times the weight of the transparent one. do you think you can make one that is only 2 times the weight of the transparent one? you could make the heavy ones we`ve got now a bit darker and use theire current skin for the medium plates.

- could you add another AP to each plate in the corner? it would make "exoskeleton building" much easier and more flexible since you can save weight with not needing some weired extenderwork to get one of those things on

- can you change them so we can attach components to the armorplates? would be cool for future designs.


-Thy
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Clickbeetle on April 17, 2013, 09:48:41 PM
Hey Click!
This is a suggestion for the armor plates.
I love them. They make building so much better but:

- the "solid" one is 3 times the weight of the transparent one. do you think you can make one that is only 2 times the weight of the transparent one? you could make the heavy ones we`ve got now a bit darker and use theire current skin for the medium plates.

- could you add another AP to each plate in the corner? it would make "exoskeleton building" much easier and more flexible since you can save weight with not needing some weired extenderwork to get one of those things on

- can you change them so we can attach components to the armorplates? would be cool for future designs.


-Thy

It would be a lot of grind work, but a middle weight of armor plates with corner attach points could easily be done.  Actually, this would be one of those things that someone else could help with, as it would just involve reskinning and adding APs.

Just to get this straight, by "corner attach points", you mean on the same face as the other attach points but in the corner, right?

Attaching components to them sounds cool in theory, but you have to be careful not to add too many and make them too good.  You'd need some fixed number of component attach points regardless of size, or else the 120x120 plates would have at least 9 attach points, which would definitely break them.  Which means you need either 1 attach point in the center, or 4 in the corners.  What do you think?  Is one attach point for components enough?  I would hesitate to add four of them.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Thyrus on April 17, 2013, 11:01:34 PM
I will show it to you in a picture
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Kossokei on April 18, 2013, 05:44:42 PM
Oh, and I also 'unlocked' Hypno Disc ;P
Mates, I just took a look into the components folder of the DSL3 beta

There are S3 parts, Shishkabot parts, Tornado parts, Growler parts, Pussycat parts, RobotX parts, Taz parts, and YU812 parts...

I think we have more to unlock than just Hypnodisk...

If someone could be so kind as to turn these into bots and post them here, that'd be amazing
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: WhamettNuht on April 19, 2013, 01:54:43 AM
That's because for the majority most of them have their custom wheels in the mobility menu :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Kossokei on April 19, 2013, 02:18:59 PM
That's because for the majority most of them have their custom wheels in the mobility menu :P
oh okay there's only wheels in there


"a hurr durr thoz are 4 DSL2 compatibility XDDDD" uhh, no. Shishkabot is a new replica, not entirely sure about S3 though. Also, why would click say "Install this over a FRESH RA2" if it was DSL compatible?

edit: sorry about the sarcasm, had a rather stressful day and I thought you were trying to make me look stupid
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: 123savethewhales on April 28, 2013, 03:31:12 AM
I am beginning to suspect that the "grip bonus %" stacks additively with battery penalty, so when Tread reach half battery, it more or less stops moving completely.

Personally I think all wheels, even treads, should at least have 1 grip.  Comparing DSL3 to DSL2 and Stock

DSL 3 NPC + Hypno == (32*1.2)torque/(40+10.5)kg == 0.76 torque/kg
DSL 2 NPCF + Techno == (48*2.3)torque/(40+32)kg == 1.53 torque/kg
Stock HP-Ztek + Rubber == 48 torque/(30+13)kg ==1.12 torque/kg

I think DSL3 wheel grip has room for improvement.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: courthousedoc on May 30, 2013, 07:19:44 PM
Wait. I leave for a certain time and a DSL 3 Public beta is released sweet i may just get back into RA2 again
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Mecha on May 30, 2013, 08:19:26 PM
I know sorta me too. :P
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: JoeCB1991 on June 08, 2013, 12:42:26 PM
I've been gone for a long time because of computer problems (actually wound up being a really easy fix, I was just too lazy to do it for a couple of years...), but now that I finally have it fixed I am really looking forward to trying this new stuff out.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on June 08, 2013, 12:47:15 PM
I've been gone for a long time because of computer problems (actually wound up being a really easy fix, I was just too lazy to do it for a couple of years...), but now that I finally have it fixed I am really looking forward to trying this new stuff out.

whoa man it's been a while

Still feeling like VS building ?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Jonzu95 on June 08, 2013, 02:11:03 PM
Oh my... It's JoeCB! Welcome back dude!
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: JoeCB1991 on June 08, 2013, 03:44:34 PM
I still have all of my robots, I was able to back it up before the virus made me wipe my PC way back when that happened.

Most of what I build is still VSes, I also like to play around with hovercraft engines and generally creating things that have big intimidating weapons even though they can be so unstable they aren't really great for real tournaments =p.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Naryar on June 08, 2013, 03:58:41 PM
I have a new nar ai based on DSL3. If you want to participate...
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: JoeCB1991 on June 08, 2013, 07:04:34 PM
Sure, I'll need to figure out DSL3 first though and see how all the new balancing works out.

Most of it will probably be remakes of what I have already done though.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: playzooki on July 03, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
Ive seen your youtube vids : :smile:
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Dangerfield7up on July 03, 2013, 04:07:59 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU :vista:
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: cephalopod on July 04, 2013, 02:53:03 AM
Oh hey Joe. Your VS were quite the inspiration for my contributions to the VS playing field.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: TheUnknownRobotics on August 17, 2013, 07:18:34 PM
The motor section crashes when I click on it.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: MassimoV on August 17, 2013, 08:22:11 PM
Then you installed it wrong. Make sure you replace all the files.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: TheUnknownRobotics on August 17, 2013, 08:30:01 PM
I'm sure I have. However, for the folders, it merged. I may need to fix that.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: MassimoV on August 17, 2013, 08:38:37 PM
Yeah do it all over again.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Natster-104 on February 20, 2014, 12:49:47 PM
Ive been with the Dsl 3 threads before I joined GTM, I was just wondering is there a different discussion somewhere that I cant find or has Click not been on for a long time?
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Trovaner on February 20, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
According to his profile (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=9), Click hasn't been around since mid-2013. Its tradition to see a post by him on April Fools though so he may be back around that time.
Title: Re: DSL3 is not cancelled.
Post by: Natster-104 on February 20, 2014, 01:29:19 PM
Yeah hopefully we might see him. I was actually wondering if for an April fools joke he could release the full DSL 3, that would be awesome! Anyway thanks for the info.