Author Topic: Piglet + Hypno Wheel = Havok (Read 2776 times)

Resetti's Replicas · « **on:** December 02, 2010, 09:26:28 PM »

I have a beetleweight with a havoking problem. It's got 2 piglets (yeah yeah, I know, but the Astroflights don't fit in my chassis) and 2 hypno-wheels, and it havoks often and unpredictably. Is this a glitch on my copy of the game or a common problem?

JoeBlo · « **Reply #1 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:30:54 PM »

if I am imagining your robot right it has nothing to do with Piglets or Hypnos

its called the nasty pickle glitch and is caused by a small chassis (and usually big wheels but it can happen with small ones)

Resetti's Replicas · « **Reply #2 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:37:50 PM »

Yep, I went with the smallest chassis I could, it's about 2 squares wide on the design grid.

Should I make the chassis bigger to alleviate the problem?

Little lost bot · « **Reply #3 on:** December 02, 2010, 10:38:24 PM »

That glitch wrecked my BBeans entry.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #4 on:** December 02, 2010, 10:40:38 PM »

Quote from: Sonny_Resetti on December 02, 2010, 09:37:50 PM

Should I make the chassis bigger to alleviate the problem?

yes or make a new drive setup that has them wider apart (assuming they are close together)

Naryar · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2010, 05:29:39 AM »

Use copals. Copals are better than piglets as drive.

70 CUDA · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2010, 11:31:19 AM »

im woking one right now that is doing it with the drum. its on a piglet and it wont stop. i hate my bots sometimes.

Resetti's Replicas · « **Reply #7 on:** December 03, 2010, 01:50:01 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on December 03, 2010, 05:29:39 AM

Use copals. Copals are better than piglets as drive.

Are you sure about that? I know that Astro's are better than Piglets, but Copals too?

Naryar · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2010, 01:52:11 PM »

Copals have 12 torque, Piglets have 10. Hence more powerful.

70 CUDA · « **Reply #9 on:** December 03, 2010, 02:57:30 PM »

i just tested this and i hate to say this but your wrong. in a 157Kg bot with BOTH copal and piglet drive systems wired separately. while i had a fast start with the copals it stayed slow as

. the pigs took about >1/2 sec to reach top sp5ed but were at least 3 times faster then the copals.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #10 on:** December 04, 2010, 01:31:47 AM »

Piglets have a higher top end speed but lower acceleration

BUT

if im not mistaken the lack of torque means that the copals can actually push a piglet drive robot around...

Pwnator · « **Reply #11 on:** December 04, 2010, 01:36:19 AM »

Quote from: JoeBlo on December 04, 2010, 01:31:47 AM

Piglets have a higher top end speed but lower acceleration

BUT

if im not mistaken the lack of torque means that the copals can actually push a piglet drive robot around...

Yep. And that means copals are also flankier than piglets.

NFX · « **Reply #12 on:** December 04, 2010, 03:07:16 PM »

I've just thought, if you used Drive Motors for weapons on a VS, would that make it easier to throw the opponent up into the air?

70 CUDA · « **Reply #13 on:** December 04, 2010, 03:09:53 PM »

yes and no. while you have more tq your loss of rpm means a loss of kinetic force. it will spin slower but get stooped less. in my mind it depends on the bot.

Naryar · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2010, 05:37:36 PM »

Quote from: NFX on December 04, 2010, 03:07:16 PM

I've just thought, if you used Drive Motors for weapons on a VS, would that make it easier to throw the opponent up into the air?

No. Topspeed is more important than torque for VS, unless you find your spinner getting stopped too often for your taste.

Scorpion · « **Reply #15 on:** December 04, 2010, 06:05:38 PM »

Quote from: Naryar on December 04, 2010, 05:37:36 PM

Quote from: NFX on December 04, 2010, 03:07:16 PM
I've just thought, if you used Drive Motors for weapons on a VS, would that make it easier to throw the opponent up into the air?

No. Topspeed is more important than torque for VS, unless you find your spinner getting stopped too often for your taste.

Sounds like they'd be ideal for bar spinners then.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #16 on:** December 04, 2010, 08:09:31 PM »

top speed is waaayy more important on spinner weapons...

the motors in backlash has really low torque to counter balence the speed (so they dont bumble-ball so easy) and you say how far they through robots in the preview video...

70 CUDA · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2010, 12:09:42 AM »

keep in mind my comment was based on scientific knowledge in the RW. i dont know why i did that but there it is. lol and even in game i stand by it for SOME bots.

JoeBlo · « **Reply #18 on:** December 05, 2010, 12:49:53 AM »

hate to be the one to tell you but very little in the real world applys to RA2.. wheel size doesnt even matter as one example

70 CUDA · « **Reply #19 on:** December 05, 2010, 01:18:39 AM »

lol i know but i cant afford to make a real bot so i spend my summer taking apart junk and making it deadly. i wish i still had my Chevy 350 powered VS bar thing I made 2 summers ago. lol that thing could literally go through a 1980 car frame with no slowdown at all.lol