Strange problems with a tourney entry.

[Naryar]

Well he should send another bot. The design's not legal as a MW in all cases.

[yoda9726]

He's gonna.  I'm just wanting to know theories about causes so I can be more knowledgable about it in the future.

[Naryar]

Is he on DSL 2.0 or an older version ?

[Madiaba]

Yoda,
The bot file is compromised ....  I won't explain here what was done, but it was BFE-ed.
 


 

[yoda9726]

Yoda,
The bot file is compromised ....  I won't explain here what was done, but it was BFE-ed.

That's what i thought as well.  Wanted confirmation from someone who would be better at spotting it than I.  Thanks Madiaba.
 
freeziez, again, BFE not allowed in my tourney, states so in the rules. 
 

[freeziez]

Actually, I do not know how to BFE, but I think I know what's wrong. To make this bot, I used Lug Nut, took him apart (kinda), and rebuilt him. I think BFE had been used on Lock Nut BEFORE I edited him.

[Naryar]

Lock Nut v2.3 is BFE'd because of the stupid 6-mag collision mesh, but the anglers are your addition so there is no reason BFE done months before should affect them.

Plus still that 432 kg middleweight... the only way it could happen other than BFE would be swapping to a RA2 version where some of the components used on the bot would be heavier. I'm not even sure about the last one.

[cephalopod]

I had a weight problem with S.T.C's first entry in RIP1... could be a similar thing?

[yoda9726]

He's sent me a new bot now having the same weight issue.  This one weighs in at 638.8 and saying it's a middleweight.  I've sent him a list of all the components he's using on the bot and the weight they should be so he can double check it. 
 
Just for sake of Occam's Razor, here's the weights as they show on my game
 
Perm 132 S -- 90
cleprechaun blade  --35
taz wheels --19
titanium sheet --30
multi extender (extra small) --3
T connector --5
BSG  --25
PC545  --25
Control board --4
multi extender (small) --6
Baseplate anchor --4

[freeziez]

Alright, since I found out how to have multiple versions of Ra2 at once, I'll make the bot in my clean DSL version, and see if anything's different. If so, you can keep that bot. If not, then something's wrong with your game.

[yoda9726]

Okay, I think we've figure out the problems with the weight.  His perm motor weighs in at 10 kg on his installation.  Is there somewhere a list of the components with their official weights so he can check against it to see what's right and what's wrong? 

[The Ounce]

It depends on which size Perm he's using.

[yoda9726]

sorry, it was the perm 132 S. 

[The Ounce]

The small Perm 132 has always weighed 90 kgs for me.

[JoeBlo]

well you know the extract and play version in sages sig works 100% correctly

[yoda9726]

 

The small Perm 132 has always weighed 90 kgs for me.

The same for me.
 

well you know the extract and play version in sages sig works 100% correctly

That's the one i'm using.  He has also now gotten a clean copy of dsl, so it should all be taken care of. 
 
Thanks for all your help guys.