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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #120 on: October 12, 2011, 07:39:13 AM »
I have a Wii and I admit to like it. I don't have much games and most don't seem interesting to me, but I have been able to enjoy everything that I do have for it.
And get together with some friends and you can have a sh**load of fun with most things. I remember playing Wii Sports with 2 other people and it was great fun.

Also, if you want violent games on the Wii, get MadWorld and No More Heroes.
I myself like Madworld a lot. LOTS of blood flying everywhere.
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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #121 on: October 12, 2011, 08:03:18 AM »
The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #122 on: October 12, 2011, 08:03:49 AM »
The best games are arcade ports, like NiGHTS, imo
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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #123 on: October 12, 2011, 08:06:03 AM »
House of the Dead: Overkill was hecka funny IMO.
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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #124 on: October 12, 2011, 08:07:07 AM »
The only redeeming factor IMO is the Virtual Console.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #125 on: October 12, 2011, 08:20:16 AM »
Nothing that you couldnt already get on your computer with emulators though :P


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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #126 on: October 12, 2011, 09:03:56 AM »
The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.


Every COD/generic-blockbuster-shooter game feels different? News to me ;p
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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #127 on: October 12, 2011, 09:35:42 AM »
The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.


Every COD/generic-blockbuster-shooter game feels different? News to me ;p

This. It invalidates your point so much that you should stop bringing it up.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #128 on: October 12, 2011, 10:25:42 AM »
The only redeeming factor IMO is the Virtual Console.
There are good games on Wii; Okami, Metroid Prime, Monster Hunter Tri, Xenoblade Chronicle, Goldeneye 007, Murumasa: The Demon Blade, Sin and Punishment 2, LoZ: TP, Super Mario Galaxy.

The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.


Every COD/generic-blockbuster-shooter game feels different? News to me ;p
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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #129 on: October 12, 2011, 01:27:02 PM »
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible and most of the games are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.

Edit:
I also forgot to mention the dearth of decent games for the Wii.  I mean, many a joke has been made about the meager volume of games for the PS3, but not many about the ridiculous amount of shovel-ware made for the Wii.  90% of the Wii games available are the same repackaged "OMIGAWD MOVING MY CONTROLLER DOES STUFF" crap that's already been released.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #130 on: October 12, 2011, 01:35:11 PM »
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible(1.) and most of the games(2.) are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.
1. That's never effected great games before. In addition, the Wii's processing power in terms of graphics is not often apparent with the better games of the system. It may not be as good graphically, but games like Super Mario Galaxy can look better than the common generic brown you can tag to 70% of the PS3's shooters, at least in my opinion.

2. Most is not all. Do you ever plan to own all of the games on any system? No, you buy a few, and there are a few great games on Wii.

Your arguments have been used before and are subjective enough to destroy an English Teacher. Come up with one that's original.

As for  the last bit, don't buy it since there are good games on Wii that aren't shovelware. It's not like you buy some random mini game compilation when there's something vaguely decent like Monster Hunter Tri on a console.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #131 on: October 12, 2011, 01:47:00 PM »
My opinion:

PC>Xbox=PS3>Wii

Although I know the Wii is actually more fun for small kids and families.
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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #132 on: October 12, 2011, 01:48:36 PM »
My opinion:

PC>Xbox=PS3>Wii

Although I know the Wii is actually more fun for small kids and families.
Go play Madworld. Not for kiddies.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #133 on: October 12, 2011, 01:52:55 PM »
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible and most of the games are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.

Edit:
I also forgot to mention the dearth of decent games for the Wii.  I mean, many a joke has been made about the meager volume of games for the PS3, but not many about the ridiculous amount of shovel-ware made for the Wii.  90% of the Wii games available are the same repackaged "OMIGAWD MOVING MY CONTROLLER DOES STUFF" crap that's already been released.

Pretty much this how I feel.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #134 on: October 12, 2011, 01:59:04 PM »
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible and most of the games are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.

Edit:
I also forgot to mention the dearth of decent games for the Wii.  I mean, many a joke has been made about the meager volume of games for the PS3, but not many about the ridiculous amount of shovel-ware made for the Wii.  90% of the Wii games available are the same repackaged "OMIGAWD MOVING MY CONTROLLER DOES STUFF" crap that's already been released.

Pretty much this how I feel.
It's an opinion, so stick IMO, rather than "Wii sucks".

Quite simply, there are mostly bad games on Wii, but the good ones are more varied than the good ones on PS3 by genre. I think that sums the Wii up best; it's fine if you don't like it, but it hardly sucks because it doesn't suit you.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #135 on: October 12, 2011, 01:59:56 PM »
1. That's never effected great games before. In addition, the Wii's processing power in terms of graphics is not often apparent with the better games of the system. It may not be as good graphically, but games like Super Mario Galaxy can look better than the common generic brown you can tag to 70% of the PS3's shooters, at least in my opinion.

Generic brown is fitting for a gritty shooter.  Who the heck would want to play a gritty game as a SWAT team in the middle of Sesame Street?  Besides, "70% of the PS3's shooters" doesn't speak for the graphics capability of the system (this goes for the Xbox as well).  If you like pixelated, cartoony graphics then that's fine.  It doesn't change the fact that both the 360 and the PS3 can do that and more.

If I ever see graphics like these generated by a Wii, I will eat my shoes:


2. Most is not all. Do you ever plan to own all of the games on any system? No, you buy a few, and there are a few great games on Wii.

Your arguments have been used before and are subjective enough to destroy an English Teacher. Come up with one that's original.

As for  the last bit, don't buy it since there are good games on Wii that aren't shovelware. It's not like you buy some random mini game compilation when there's something vaguely decent like Monster Hunter Tri on a console.

Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #136 on: October 12, 2011, 02:01:57 PM »
Noodle took all of my reasons and made them better.

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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #137 on: October 12, 2011, 02:13:18 PM »
Noodle took all of my reasons and made them better.
Which they sorely needed.

1. That's never effected great games before. In addition, the Wii's processing power in terms of graphics is not often apparent with the better games of the system. It may not be as good graphically, but games like Super Mario Galaxy can look better than the common generic brown you can tag to 70% of the PS3's shooters, at least in my opinion.

Generic brown is fitting for a gritty shooter.  Who the heck would want to play a gritty game as a SWAT team in the middle of Sesame Street?  Besides, "70% of the PS3's shooters" doesn't speak for the graphics capability of the system (this goes for the Xbox as well).  If you like pixelated, cartoony graphics then that's fine.  It doesn't change the fact that both the 360 and the PS3 can do that and more.

If I ever see graphics like these generated by a Wii, I will eat my shoes:


2. Most is not all. Do you ever plan to own all of the games on any system? No, you buy a few, and there are a few great games on Wii.

Your arguments have been used before and are subjective enough to destroy an English Teacher. Come up with one that's original.

As for  the last bit, don't buy it since there are good games on Wii that aren't shovelware. It's not like you buy some random mini game compilation when there's something vaguely decent like Monster Hunter Tri on a console.

Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time.
Meh, I like cartoony graphics, pixelated or not, as I can put up with Wii games and more graphically proficient games like TF2. And if you think graphics pays off, then that's fine too. I prefer original game-play (and I do not mean motion controls by this), and I'm not a shooter fan, save for Metroid.

But seriously, it has hardcore games. They are not necessarily shooters, but it has pretty violent games like No More Heroes and Madworld on it exclusively.


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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #138 on: October 12, 2011, 02:15:09 PM »
Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time.


This is mainly true, but there are some good shooters (see Goldeneye) and racers (the F1 games aren't bad on Wii). It does need more hardcore games to make it more relevant to many markets though, I agree, although I think this is partially due to developers thinking the same as many of you think - 'It's a kids console'.
It has so much potential for those types of games, when developers like Treyarch (which so many of you hold highly) don't actually work with it at all and just send awful ports.
If these guys made something FOR the Wii, I bet it'd blow a lot of people's minds. So IMO it's not the console, it's not the buyers, it's not Nintendo (who have made some sweeet Metroid games on Wii), it's 3rd party developers.


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Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
« Reply #139 on: October 12, 2011, 02:18:01 PM »
Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time.


This is mainly true, but there are some good shooters (see Goldeneye) and racers (the F1 games aren't bad on Wii). It does need more hardcore games to make it more relevant to many markets though, I agree, although I think this is partially due to developers thinking the same as many of you think - 'It's a kids console'.
It has so much potential for those types of games, when developers like Treyarch (which so many of you hold highly) don't actually work with it at all and just send awful ports.
If these guys made something FOR the Wii, I bet it'd blow a lot of people's minds. So IMO it's not the console, it's not the buyers, it's not Nintendo (who have made some sweeet Metroid games on Wii), it's 3rd party developers.


Although I'm almost sure that my opinion will be corrected by Nate in a minute.
I agree with this. As you say, the Wii's best games are made by Nintendo, and the lack of games in certain areas are simply because of 3rd party developers. It DOES need more good games, it's just that no company makes any.