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Title: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Hard Bot on October 10, 2011, 06:40:22 PM
In my opinion, the Wii is overrated. Here's why:
1. Its siguature racing game-Mario Kart Wii-is childish compared to Gran Turismo 5(PS3) and and Forza Motorsport 4(360.)
2.It does not have sim racers, as the rivals do.
3.I heard that the cover of a Madden Football game for it was cartoonish.
4.The games for it are very easy.
5.A new Wii player can have sorness.
6.There is a NASCAR game for it called NASCAR Kart Racing and it is the worst NASCAR game ever.
7.The game Wii Music is a little creepy.
8. It can injure TVs because someone might throw throw the Wiimote at it, shattering its screen.
9. 11 0/0 are decent, 89 0/0 are bad.

So just avoid buying this system and just buy a 360 or PS3.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 10, 2011, 06:43:01 PM
#8 can be prevented.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Preytor_4 on October 10, 2011, 06:43:40 PM
So just avoid buying this system and just buy a 360 or PS3.

Or get all 3 :trollface
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 10, 2011, 06:44:34 PM
TL;DR-
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW.
Threads like this.
Title: Let's have a mature discussion about this, shall we?
Post by: NFX on October 10, 2011, 06:46:05 PM
I can see where you're coming from, but you do have to remember that the Wii is made for a completely different audience than the Xbox 360 or the Playstation 3. Whilst the two others are targeted at the more hardcore gaming audience, with games such as Gears of War, Gran Turismo and the upcoming Forza 4 (I might be getting that. =D), the Wii is a much more family-oriented console, with more friendly games that have a "pick-up-and-play" quality to them, that the more simulation-style games don't have. You can see this in the average age ratings, most games on the Wii have a rating of 3, with the occasional 7, whereas some of the more popular games for the 360 and PS3 are up in the region of 16 and 18. So while you may think that the Wii is a childish and overrated console, I can guarantee that there are plenty of people in the gaming world who think otherwise.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Mr. AS on October 10, 2011, 06:47:01 PM
These points that you made are very hit or miss, and/or opinion-based, example:
In my opinion, the Wii is overrated. Here's why:
1. Its siguature racing game-Mario Kart Wii-is childish compared to Gran Turismo 5(PS3) and and Forza Motorsport 4(360.) >Opinion. There's adults who play this...
2.It does not have sim racers, as the rivals do.
3.I heard that the cover of a Madden Football game for it was cartoonish.
4.The games for it are very easy. Well you probably didn't complete them 100%.
5.A new Wii player can have soreness. I never had soreness when I got the Wii, nor did any of my family...
6.There is a NASCAR game for it called NASCAR Kart Racing and it is the worst NASCAR game ever.
7.The game Wii Music is a little creepy. >Opinion. Most people weren't creeped out at all.
8. It can injure TVs wait wut tv's can't have "injuries", they get broken/damaged because someone might throw throw the Wiimote at it, shattering its screen. Well maybe you should wear the wrist strap.

So just avoid buying this system and just buy a 360 or PS3.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Hard Bot on October 10, 2011, 07:00:23 PM
I don't have plans on buying the Wii U, because it will have the same, childish games. Enigma has a DS Lite but he got his at age 10 and stopped playing it at age of 12. I have plans on getting a PSPgo for this Christmas, so I can play Gran Turismo on the go.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Mr. AS on October 10, 2011, 07:07:22 PM
The Wii is from Japan, and strangely enough so is anime...
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on October 10, 2011, 07:07:34 PM
TLT.

I Play WII and everything you said are wrong.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: System32 on October 10, 2011, 07:08:21 PM
trololol
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 10, 2011, 07:08:58 PM
TLT.

I Play WII and everything you said are wrong.
Quoted for truth, mate. He doesn't appear to know the meanings of half the complaints he's talking about.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: R1885 on October 10, 2011, 07:19:34 PM
You have clearly never played Mad World or No More Heroes.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: russian roulette on October 10, 2011, 08:11:59 PM
You have clearly never played Mad World or No More Heroes.
This.
It would be more accurate if you compared the Wii U to the 360 and the PS3. It looks as if the Wii U has much more disadvantages when you add in a giant controller.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 10, 2011, 08:18:39 PM
It would be more accurate if you compared the Wii U to the 360 and the PS3. It looks as if the Wii U has much more disadvantages when you add in a giant controller.
From what I know, it's more of an optional thing. Even still, you never know until it's actually been demonstrated- everyone was quite sceptical when the Wii was first introduced, but now it's pretty much a household name.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: freeziez on October 10, 2011, 08:30:45 PM
I think Project Cafe is a step back from the old Wii systems. Sure it might be a powerful and good-looking handheld, but why was the Wii invented in the first place? To sit and stare at a six inch LCD screen with none of your body moving except your fingers? No. The Wii was made so it could be the first motion-based gaming system ever invented. Look where they "innovated" to. And, well, Wii and PS3 users have small pee-pees.

It would be more accurate if you compared the Wii U to the 360 and the PS3. It looks as if the Wii U has much more disadvantages when you add in a giant controller.
From what I know, it's more of an optional thing. Even still, you never know until it's actually been demonstrated- everyone was quite skeptical when the Wii was first introduced, but now it's pretty much a household name.

Hitler is a househole name too.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: J on October 10, 2011, 08:31:28 PM
I play Wii Just Dance 1 and 2, and am quite good at it.
You are all jelly.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 10, 2011, 08:33:20 PM
I think Project Cafe is a step back from the old Wii systems. Sure it might be a powerful and good-looking handheld, but why was the Wii invented in the first place? To sit and stare at a six inch LCD screen with none of your body moving except your fingers? No. The Wii was made so it could be the first motion-based gaming system ever invented. Look where they "innovated" to.

It would be more accurate if you compared the Wii U to the 360 and the PS3. It looks as if the Wii U has much more disadvantages when you add in a giant controller.
From what I know, it's more of an optional thing. Even still, you never know until it's actually been demonstrated- everyone was quite skeptical when the Wii was first introduced, but now it's pretty much a household name.

Hitler is a househole name too.
Actually, it's used in conjunction with the motion controls, from what I know.
 
As for that second point-
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle7vljslfu (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle7vljslfu)
Good use of Godwin's Law, there  =P
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: freeziez on October 10, 2011, 08:35:24 PM
Actually, it's used in conjunction with the motion controls, from what I know.

No, it's a controller with buttons, a 6-inch 1080p LCD screen, and two analog sticks.

I call it the Gamecube 2.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: J on October 10, 2011, 08:45:51 PM
Cant we all just play Smash Bros Brawl and call it a day?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: TriTon on October 10, 2011, 08:52:54 PM
I only play Xbox 360 cause I ran out of games to play for the Wii. Also, when I still played it, I had about 30 games for it, all completed, compared to my 6 on Xbox 360 because there's no space for anything else.

Wii > Xbox 360
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Jonzu95 on October 10, 2011, 11:59:52 PM
Go away.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: 090901 on October 11, 2011, 12:04:40 AM
enigma pls harm your brother in some way that makes it so he never posts here again.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Naryar on October 11, 2011, 12:25:28 AM
name is ghey
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 11, 2011, 01:43:30 AM
Name is ghey. But HB's points are irrelevant.

1. Oh no! Almost as if the Mario series isn't intended to be grimy and realistic
2. See above
3. You heard the cover for a game looked cartoony so it's a bad console?
4. Not at all. You obviously haven't played many good Wii games.
5. What?
6. Oh god a bad game means the console is awful, not the people who developed the game
7. Oh god a game you think is creepy means the console is awful.
8. Avoidable
9. 11 % of what are good? The games? Yeah I agree. The platform has been spammed with 'PARTY GAME 36445' and 'DANCEATHON 935' etc. But the good games are damn good.

Just my views ;)


Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on October 11, 2011, 06:38:24 AM
In my opinion, the Wii is overrated. Here's why:
1. Its siguature racing game-Mario Kart Wii-is childish compared to Gran Turismo 5(PS3) and and Forza Motorsport 4(360.)
2.It does not have sim racers, as the rivals do.
3.I heard that the cover of a Madden Football game for it was cartoonish.
4.The games for it are very easy.
5.A new Wii player can have sorness.
6.There is a NASCAR game for it called NASCAR Kart Racing and it is the worst NASCAR game ever.
7.The game Wii Music is a little creepy.
8. It can injure TVs because someone might throw throw the Wiimote at it, shattering its screen.
9. 11 0/0 are decent, 89 0/0 are bad.

So just avoid buying this system and just buy a 360 or PS3.

O hai, I see you changed your avatar.  You had me going, for a minute I thought I was talking to someone intelligent.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 06:54:51 AM
1. Its signature racing game - Mario Kart Wii - is childish compared to Gran Turismo 5 (PS3) and and Forza Motorsport 4 (360)
   Matter of opinion. Besides, what's good about racing games anyway? No point basing an entire console off of one game
2. It does not have sim racers, as the rivals do.
   ...and?
3. I heard that the cover of a Madden Football game for it was cartoonish.
   ...and? Sports games suck
4. The games for it are very easy.
   As are the games for all modern consoles
5. A new Wii player can have sorness.
   And? They'll get used to it
6. There is a NASCAR game for it called NASCAR Kart Racing and it is the worst NASCAR game ever.
   In your opinion, which doesn't even count to my goldfish
7. The game Wii Music is a little creepy.
   In your opinion. I like the fact that it has a native music making program, though RYMTK is better
8. It can injure TVs because someone might throw throw the Wiimote at it, shattering its screen.
   lolpersoonification. Also, ever heard of the wrist strap?
9. 11 0/0 are decent, 89 0/0 are bad.
   ...what in the name of the holy flying BAGEL does that even mean?

So just avoid buying this system and just buy a 360 (ew RRoD, ew Kinect, not worth the stand it sits on) or PS3.
In short: Go look deeper


I hate home consoles, so I'm not even going to defend it, I just came in to set you straight
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 08:05:20 AM
As much as I hate the Wii, your points suck.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 08:07:14 AM
As much as I hate the Wii, your points suck.
I think I'd find your points of argument interesting on this subject, Nate :3
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 08:08:13 AM
Not now. I'm on my iPhone at school.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 08:15:40 AM
Okay :D
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: System32 on October 11, 2011, 08:31:41 AM
enigma pls harm your brother in some way that makes it so he never posts here again.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Resetti's Replicas on October 11, 2011, 10:56:05 AM
Here's some interesting facts about Hard Bot's list
 
3 of those points are about racing
3 are spectulative arguments
3 target one specific game
3 are unsubstantiated opinions
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 10:57:14 AM
Here's some interesting facts about Hard Bot's list
 
3 of those points are about racing
3 are spectulative arguments
3 target one specific game
3 are unsubstantiated opinions
10 are retarded statements that come from someone who behaves like a two-year-old
I couldn't help but put that one in, sorry ^^'
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: nicsan2009 on October 11, 2011, 11:00:58 AM
Dude grow up and get your facts right every single one of these reasons are pathetic.
Title: Re: Let's have a mature discussion about this, shall we?
Post by: NFX on October 11, 2011, 12:02:53 PM
I can see where you're coming from, but you do have to remember that the Wii is made for a completely different audience than the Xbox 360 or the Playstation 3. Whilst the two others are targeted at the more hardcore gaming audience, with games such as Gears of War, Gran Turismo and the upcoming Forza 4 (I might be getting that. =D), the Wii is a much more family-oriented console, with more friendly games that have a "pick-up-and-play" quality to them, that the more simulation-style games don't have. You can see this in the average age ratings, most games on the Wii have a rating of 3, with the occasional 7, whereas some of the more popular games for the 360 and PS3 are up in the region of 16 and 18. So while you may think that the Wii is a childish and overrated console, I can guarantee that there are plenty of people in the gaming world who think otherwise.

I feel like quoting my previous post, in an effort to spite Hard Bot. Clearly, he wants us to attack him in an angry manner, and he has so far succeeded somewhat. So I propose we give him a metaphorical punch on the nose and, instead, have a reasonable, rational, and logical debate about the advantages and disadvantages of the Wii Entertainment System when compared to its two main console rivals in the videogaming market. =D
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 12:24:26 PM
Alright, here's some points for the Wii:

1) Pioneered motion-sensitive gaming
2) Family-orientated console

...I have no other points. Someone add some please
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 11, 2011, 12:25:56 PM
3) Appeals to both the Casual and self-proclaimed Hardcore markets in several aspects of its gaming library
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 12:28:36 PM
Reasons why it sucks (I will explain later):

Lots of shovelware
Good games are rehashes of classic games
The name
Online play is lousy
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 11, 2011, 12:32:03 PM
Reasons why it sucks (I will explain later):

Lots of shovelware
Good games are rehashes of classic games
The name
Online play is lousy
I agree with the bit on Shovelware- that's always been a problem, mainly how you get idiots who can't tell the good stuff from the crap  =/
 
But stating its name to be a reason why it sucked? What utter crap. It's like me hating the Playstation 3 because it's not King's Cross or Waterloo.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 12:32:58 PM
A console is nothing without good games.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: RpJk on October 11, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
I think the Wii is good with games like;
Smash Bros Brawl
Red Steel 1&2(Over 18)
Mario Power Tennis
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Skate it.

The wii is good but I want more action and fighting. I'd say it is almost fully childish IMO.

And the name is crap. It should have stayed as the Nintendo Revolution.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 12:38:16 PM
Good games are rehashes of classic games
Everything these days is rehashed

and there's more to gaming than online
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 12:41:13 PM
If they promised online play, they should at least pull it off well.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: NFX on October 11, 2011, 12:51:32 PM
Good games are rehashes of classic games
Everything these days is rehashed

and there's more to gaming than online

*highfive*
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 12:53:18 PM
Also, why does the Wii have poor processing power? I thought it was a next-gen console?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Badger on October 11, 2011, 12:59:24 PM
In my opinion, the Wii is overrated. Here's why:
1. Its siguature racing game-Mario Kart Wii-is childish compared to Gran Turismo 5(PS3) and and Forza Motorsport 4(360.)
2.It does not have sim racers, as the rivals do.
3.I heard that the cover of a Madden Football game for it was cartoonish.
4.The games for it are very easy.
5.A new Wii player can have sorness.
6.There is a NASCAR game for it called NASCAR Kart Racing and it is the worst NASCAR game ever.
7.The game Wii Music is a little creepy.
8. It can injure TVs because someone might throw throw the Wiimote at it, shattering its screen.
9. 11 0/0 are decent, 89 0/0 are bad.

So just avoid buying this system and just buy a 360 or PS3.
I( have Ferrari Challenge for the wii, which claimed to be a sim.


I've sold my wii now.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 01:28:42 PM
Good games are rehashes of classic games
Everything these days is rehashed

and there's more to gaming than online

*highfive*
I'll just say I high-fived back

Also, why does the Wii have poor processing power? I thought it was a next-gen console?
Because it was released in 2006
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 02:23:27 PM
The 360 was in 2005
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Mr. AS on October 11, 2011, 02:25:05 PM
The 360 was in 2005
You know rainbow graphics don't matter...
...right?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
They kind of do.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 02:27:36 PM
The 360 was in 2005
And it had RRoD

They kind of do.
Pong
Space Invaders
The original Tetris


No they don't
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: lloopp D lloopp on October 11, 2011, 02:33:47 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahhahahahahaha


Just go away Hard Bot
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Badnik96 on October 11, 2011, 02:35:39 PM
Does anyone think that hard bot and 027 might be like long lost twins or something? They both hate anime and need to have better self control.   

and both are like 12

It just seems uncanny.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 02:37:28 PM
Would you rather play BO on the Wii or 36O?

One or the other.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Mr. AS on October 11, 2011, 02:39:03 PM
Would you rather play BO on the Wii or 36O?

One or the other.
wats a 36o


And I don't know which one has better replay-ability and features so I couldn't choose. :/
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 02:48:26 PM
Would you rather play BO on the Wii or 36O?
Why would I want to play Body Odor on anything?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 02:51:35 PM
Would you rather play BO on the Wii or 36O?
Why would I want to play Body Odor on anything?

Black Ops.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 02:53:01 PM
Would you rather play BO on the Wii or 36O?
Why would I want to play Body Odor on anything?
Black Ops.
Ew, why would I want to play that? At least body odor doesn't involve war (usually)
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Chaosmancer on October 11, 2011, 02:53:28 PM
Saying that the graphics of a computer game matter is like saying that because a person is ugly, their personality will be horrible, and therefore you should hate them. And that just isn't true due to the fact that beautiful, or 'beautiful' people can have horrible personalities, and the ugliest person in the world could have a great sense of humour, and be very friendly.

Long story short; Graphics =/= Gameplay

Sure, graphics can add to the gaming experience, and make a battle scene that much more epic, but it isn't everything.

Besides, The Wiis graphics aren't that bad, it's just when people don't use the Wiis power to its full potential. Monster Hunter Tri, and Xenoblade Chronicles, along with several others look great. But then again, people have different definitions of 'great' graphics.

Original original 360 RROD'd, in fact, my dad had one on release, when he took it out of the box, it didn't work.
Original 40GB PS3 YLOD'd, ours barely lasted 2 years before doing that (after the warranty was over).
Original Wii ha-...oh wait, has the Wii had any technical issues at all (genuine question, I'm not sure and have not had any problems with mine)

Each console has it's own pros, cons, exclusives, reasons why people prefer them over other consoles, but saying that something sucks as though it is fact is just immature and pointless, will lead nowhere but petty arguments which generally devolve into pointless personal insults.

...I think this is relevant...at least partially.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 02:54:41 PM
Just answer it.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 11, 2011, 02:57:38 PM
Would you rather play BO on the Wii or 36O?



^Implying
    1) Black Ops was made for the Wii and wasn't a cheap port
    2) The majority of those who play Wii want to play Black Ops.


If people wanted to play COD, they'd buy a console which COD was made for. It's not fair to draw parallels there.
I bet a cheap 360/PS3 port of Red Steel or something similar wouldn't be half as good as the Wii version.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 03:00:10 PM
Just answer it.
We don't like war games
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:01:17 PM
Got me on that one.

At least the 360 gets upgrades. The Wii has been the same since 2006.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: martymidget on October 11, 2011, 03:01:31 PM
Chaosmancer has it in the bag. Its all down to preference- like the opposite sex, clothes, food...Which means that this discussion has the potential to last forever, repeating the same old points over and over. How dull.


Quote contents removed as walls of text are long.
+1 from me if I could.

And please don't turn this into a discussion about war games...make a new thread about it or something instead of adding to this fairly useless thread. /endrant.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
Children love war games

End of discussion, back to debating why home consoles suck what points we can use against Botty
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:06:06 PM
I feel now that the only real point against the Wii is the games.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 11, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
I feel now that the only real point against the Wii is the games.


I'm a bit of a Ninty fanboy but I agree with this.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:08:14 PM
Like I said, the console is nothing without its games.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 03:10:09 PM
Then no console these days is worth the stand it sits on - games these days generally suck
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:11:35 PM
So a big budget title is on the same level as a shovelware game?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 03:13:37 PM
Generally, yeah. All they care about these days is money, the big sales, doing things to death. Nowadays, you play one game, you've played all games of that genre. Exceptions being decent arcade ports like BlazBlue
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 11, 2011, 03:13:55 PM
This happens to be the stupidest thread in existence.

While most Wii games suck (mostly the ones made by Ubisoft and other third parties) there are some truly essential and great games on Wii. Okami, SMG, Metroid Prime Trilogy, LoZ: TP, Hydroventure, and World Of Goo, and in many ways is more mature than the PS3 for the majority of the games. The PS3 has kids games too.

In addition, the Wii can look amazing, sound amazing, and play amazing, all of which brilliantly demonstrated by the original Super Mario Galaxy, that looks much nicer than many games on PS3 and 360, simply because they use appropriate colors to make it look better. Games like Shadow Of The Colossus and Ratchet and Clank are visually great games on the PS3, simply because they aren't always some dirty brown colour, which seems beyond common games like CoD, Battlefield, and others. Add to that a greater variety of game styles and the Wii in many ways is better than the PS3.

Credit to the PS3 for games like LittleBigPlanet and Mass Effect 2, but the Wii is not crushed by its competitors, you just need to know where to look.

So a big budget title is on the same level as a shovelware game?
This is the only real argument left which I feel is legit; there are too many third party mini game fests on the Wii, which is an undeniable weakness.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:16:37 PM
Madman makes sense. Also, the Wii's processing power is inferior. It can't do as much.
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Post by: NFX on October 11, 2011, 03:18:04 PM
Generally, yeah. All they care about these days is money, the big sales, doing things to death. Nowadays, you play one game, you've played all games of that genre. Exceptions being decent arcade ports like BlazBlue
I can't help feeling that's generalising it a bit TOO much. I agree with you on the Shooter and FPS genre, which is why I hate them so much, but there is quite a spread in other genres, I feel.
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Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:19:19 PM
What Scourge said is pretty much ignorance, don't you think?
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Post by: cephalopod on October 11, 2011, 03:19:31 PM
Madman makes sense. Also, the Wii's processing power is inferior. It can't do as much.


You confuse me. You keep making statements that could close the discussion/argument, then say something else that just riles it all up again (':
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Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 03:20:12 PM
Okay then, subgenres. Even with my favourite TatRPGs, there' not much in the way of originality with plots

Plus, most games these days are FAR too easy, because they're made for the less experienced market to try and catch all audiences to make more money
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
I have no idea why.
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Post by: madman3 on October 11, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
The Wii may not have as many good games as the PS3, but they are generally games with more originality and identity than its competitors.

Plus, since when has processing power been used to its fullest on the PS3 or XBox? They tend to use a lot of the same colour, and that's never been a big problem, according to you. Galaxy, as I have said, can use its processing power to the maximum, and it shows in the game's overall quality and aesthetics.
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Post by: Chaosmancer on October 11, 2011, 03:30:33 PM
Well, in my opinion, home consoles don't suck (that may be due to the fact that I enjoy playing multiplayer with my dad, plus the fact that there are a select few games that I do enjoy playing that can only be got for home consoles (Dark Souls, Xenoblade Chronicles)), but as I said, each has it's own pros and cons, and each of those pros and cons will have a greater/lesser effect based on who the person is (describing Dark Souls as a mercilessly difficult game will attract some people, and cause others to go away).

And Scourge, opinions, heck, even Hard Bot got the 'in my opinion' bit down, hence why I haven't been able to think up that many arguments agaist his points. Many people enjoy the games that are released these days. I am currently enjoying Dark Souls for PS3 (very difficult game, I enjoy the challenge), Gears for 360 (multiplayer with dad, the only reason he got it for me), and Xenoblade Chronicles for the Wii (...it's a massive RPG that had an interesting looking battle system, plus I had heard about the various other game mechanics, and decided to get it).

But as this is just supposed to be about the Wii, there is a lot of family-orientated shovelware, Nintendo stuff, and ports either, but searching through the rubbish to find the gold is just like real life. There are many good games on the Wii (not just based on my opinion). Xenoblade Chronicles, Sin and Punishment 2, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, De Blob, Red Steel, No More Heroes, Pokemon, Boom Blox, Madworld, House of the Dead: Overkill, Monster Hunter Tri, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers, the list goes on. To disregard a console because of the many bad games that have been released for it is kind of stupid really as you could be missing out on some great stuff (although I'm pretty sure you are disregarding it for the reason that you don't have enough time to start up a home console which is fair enough as time is a major factor in the purchasing of both games and consoles).

The RPG Genre can be an exception to 'Play one, played them all' due to the many different applications of RPG systems. Dark Souls, for example is an insanely difficult RPG, and different to many others that I have played. Turn Based Strategy games, FPS, and RTS have managed to implement RPG systems to make a game more unique (heck, even a football game managed it (Inazuma Eleven)).
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Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 03:34:59 PM
True, it is my opinion, but I have researched, and I have watched the gaming industry fall to its knees because its games are half-diluted to boost sales
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Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 11, 2011, 03:36:56 PM
Also, the Wii's processing power is inferior. It can't do as much.
Maybe, but it's how you use it that counts.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 03:38:55 PM
Also, the Wii's processing power is inferior. It can't do as much.
Maybe, but it's how you use it that counts.
Rather like your face
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Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:43:09 PM
Also, the Wii's processing power is inferior. It can't do as much.
Maybe, but it's how you use it that counts.

MAG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG_%28video_game%29#Reception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG_%28video_game%29#Reception)

256 player matches.
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Post by: Enigm@ on October 11, 2011, 03:48:41 PM
meh...i really only have time to play doom 2 anymoar, so i really don't care about what my brother says.. (or have the energy)
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Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 11, 2011, 03:54:07 PM
meh...i really only have time to play doom 2 anymoar, so i really don't care about what my brother says.. (or have the energy)
Ah, good to see you here. Could you do me a massive favour? If I send you my Cricket Bat with a Breezeblock nailed to it through the post, do you think you could whack him with it on my behalf? Thanks   :approve:
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Post by: Enigm@ on October 11, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
meh...i really only have time to play doom 2 anymoar, so i really don't care about what my brother says.. (or have the energy)
Ah, good to see you here. Could you do me a massive favour? If I send you my Cricket Bat with a Breezeblock nailed to it through the post, do you think you could whack him with it on my behalf? Thanks   :approve:
let me take a massive dump, sleep for a few hours first, and i'll probably consider it.
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Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 11, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
meh...i really only have time to play doom 2 anymoar, so i really don't care about what my brother says.. (or have the energy)
Ah, good to see you here. Could you do me a massive favour? If I send you my Cricket Bat with a Breezeblock nailed to it through the post, do you think you could whack him with it on my behalf? Thanks   :approve:
let me take a massive dump, sleep for a few hours first, and i'll probably consider it.
Great   ^^
 
Though a little too much information  =/
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Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 03:59:26 PM
This is my console war view:

PC > PS3 > 360 > Wii
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 11, 2011, 04:01:10 PM
Also, the Wii's processing power is inferior. It can't do as much.
Maybe, but it's how you use it that counts.

MAG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG_%28video_game%29#Reception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG_%28video_game%29#Reception)

256 player matches.
Which is indeed impressive.

However, the game has no single player. That's pretty much fodder to online players only.

This is my console war view:

PC > PS3 > 360 > Wii

PC > PS3 > Wii > 360

I personally enjoy both the PS3 and Wii, so the 360 is kinda behind for me.
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Post by: Enigm@ on October 11, 2011, 04:01:49 PM
actually, that's false, i play gang garrison too. ^^
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 04:03:13 PM
That is true. What about BF3?
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Post by: Chaosmancer on October 11, 2011, 04:04:48 PM
In all fairness, I have been asked 'which console do you prefer' many times over, and I have always replied with 'I really don't know, there are things on each console that I really enjoy playing, I don't think it is really possible for me to decide on a single console that I would buy' and it's true, I could list several games for each console that I would want that console for, and not be able to prioritise them.
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Post by: Enigm@ on October 11, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
whenever like the nerds ask me which console i like (they're mainly faggy-ass freshmen) i usually reply with "what do you like moar, dicks or vagina ?" and they usually leave cause they mad. (yeah i'm asshole in real life too, i get it from my dad. :/)
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Post by: madman3 on October 11, 2011, 04:09:43 PM
That is true. What about BF3?
Not a fan, but it is much better than its contemparies. If it had split screen multiplayer, that would be great.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: freeziez on October 11, 2011, 04:24:15 PM
360 > PC > Atari 3600 > PS3 > Wii
for me.

I'm not gonna argue with you guys, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 11, 2011, 04:28:23 PM
PC > 3DS (purely for the browser, so not much of a gaming choice) > Magnavox Odyssey (purely for retro reasons)

I don't play games much any more, tbh
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: freeziez on October 11, 2011, 04:32:37 PM
3DS (purely for the browser, so not much of a gaming choice) > Magnavox Odyssey (purely for retro reasons)

Hipster consoles?

You say that all games are made for are "the money."

...isn't that what every nonvital product is made for?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 11, 2011, 04:46:33 PM
3DS (purely for the browser, so not much of a gaming choice) > Magnavox Odyssey (purely for retro reasons)

Hipster consoles?

You say that all games are made for are "the money."

...isn't that what every nonvital product is made for?
Perhaps, but certain things are more heavily aimed for commercial acceptance than others. Simple as that.
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Post by: Enigm@ on October 11, 2011, 04:48:13 PM
the only reason i play gaems anymoar is because i can pirate sh** now.
THE INTERNET ROCKS 111!!!1!!1!!!
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Chaosmancer on October 11, 2011, 04:49:38 PM
PC > 3DS (purely for the browser, so not much of a gaming choice) > Magnavox Odyssey (purely for retro reasons)

I don't play games much any more, tbh

Does PSP come equal to 3DS?

As I said, I can't make one of those, it would be too difficult to choose, I would look at the list and go 'But...this is better than that because of this, and that is better because of that...'

So here is my opinion, in no particular order PC=DS=DSLite=3DS=Dreamcast=Gameboy Pocket (Got one of those today, Tetris is awesome)=GBA=GBASP=N64=PS3=36=Wii=Snes=PS1=PS2=Gamecube=PSP=Gameboy Colour...=Magnavox Odyssey=Amiga=Commodore 64 (gotta love my dad for having retro consoles that I have played)...I think that is all the ones I have played...oh, wait, =Megadrive

All of those consoles have good points, bad points, and games that are memorable. And I may receive some flak for this, but it is just my opinion, I find it quite difficult to judge consoles after playing and enjoying playing them
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Post by: russian roulette on October 11, 2011, 04:53:18 PM
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Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Somebody on October 11, 2011, 06:45:38 PM
Didn't read the thread but felt the need to post.

Wii isn't meant for sim anything, especially something as complicated as racing. From a pure aim standpoint, a computer is the only way to go. Because it has every real sim, while the xbox and ps3 have the point and go arcade racers. Like gt5 and forza. A real sim is iRac- *is shot*
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Post by: Natef on October 11, 2011, 06:59:44 PM
I will not buy the Wii U. Nintendo has lost most of my respect for them now.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 02:08:56 AM
I will not buy the Wii U. Nintendo has lost most of my respect for them now.
Why? Because they make family consoles?

I won't buy the WiiU because I dislike home consoles. They lack... portability... and yet manage to steal most of the "best" games (I'm looking at you, BlazBlue Continuum Shift)
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Jonzu95 on October 12, 2011, 02:47:02 AM
Only good Wii cames for me are

- Mario Kart Wii
- Super Smash Bros Brawl
- Marioparty 8
- Guitar Hero 3

I also have Dirt2, but it's horrible in wii... Very very horrible.  :dead:
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Pwnator on October 12, 2011, 02:52:03 AM
I've never seen a GOOD simulator in Wii. If anyone tries to make one for Wii, he/she's doing it wrong.

That said, the good arcade-y games for the Wii pretty much equals the good arcade-y games for the XBOX and PS3 combined.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 03:24:02 AM
The Wii wasn't made for sims, or racing games of any kind. It was made for games that involve movement (admittedly, not many of the frontline games include MUCH movement at all, since the average gamer is a couch potato (no offense, it's a generalisation)), and sims... don't
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Post by: Pwnator on October 12, 2011, 03:27:12 AM
It was made for games that involve movement and sims... don't

BLASPHEMY.

I WAS DAMN SURE THAT TILTING THE CONTROLLER MADE ME TURN FASTER. >:E

:P
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Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 03:31:25 AM
Excuse me whilst I just go and laugh in a corner, because my brother and my dad do EXACTLY that on Gran Turismo on their PS1... is it a guy thing or what?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Doomkiller on October 12, 2011, 03:36:16 AM
*feels the need to post in this thread*

This is my console war view:

PC > PS3 > 360 > Wii

I wouldn't exactly call the PC a console for games. Sure, the ps3, 360 and other consoles can do all sorts of things now, but they are just to generally to play games. PC's on the other hand, are made to do several different things, not just games. Its more a platform to which games can be played on

True,   it is my opinion, but I have researched, and I have watched the gaming   industry fall to its knees because its games are half-diluted to boost   sales

I will agree to this 100% of the way. Sure, you make a game to make money out of it (most of the time), but if it was just made to make money, the game usually stinks like horse shiz. Other games that I have played, that were not just made for the money (amnesia, Doom, Sacred 2(the company went bankrupt from it, thats commitment)) were extremely awesume to play, as well as some well made free games (mostly RPG style games)

NOW, onto the topic of the wii. You either hate it or love it. I may be one of those hardcore gamers, coach potatoes as you say, but I still enjoy a good game on the wii. I don't have many titles on the wii (manly as I don't buy many games anymore) but the ones I have I rather enjoy, from Mario Kart, to Bakugan and Ultimate Alliance 2. And for you to care about graphics? sure they can make it more appleasing, but if you just go by graphics, then your not a real gamer, your just a walking money bag to the game companies. The Wii (last time I checked) has actually beaten both the PS3 and Xbox 360 in sales, and as much as most gamers won't admit it, owns the market. Apart from Blizzard (damn WoW).

Im not trying to shut down either the PS3 or Xbox 360, and even though I don't own either, or ever touched a PS3, I still enjoy a good MP game with the xbox over at friends place, and I am thinking about getting the PS3 for the latest R&C games (been too long ever since the ps2 was taken out of the loop). They are both great consoles in retrospect, but saying that the wii is bad, childish and overrated is just going a bit overboard
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Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 03:42:01 AM
True, it is my opinion, but I have researched, and I have watched the gaming industry fall to its knees because its games are half-diluted to boost sales

I will agree to this 100% of the way. Sure, you make a game to make money out of it (most of the time), but if it was just made to make money, the game usually stinks like horse shiz. Other games that I have played, that were not just made for the money (amnesia, Doom, Sacred 2(the company went bankrupt from it, thats commitment)) were extremely awesume to play, as well as some well made free games (mostly RPG style games)
And I bet most of those games are pre 2002, right? Pre-2005 at the most
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Doomkiller on October 12, 2011, 03:48:16 AM
Doom 3 was 2005, Doom 1 and 2 1993-94
Amnesia was 2010
Sacred 2 was 2008
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 03:49:50 AM
Oh, so there is still some hope in the gaming industry after all. That's refreshing :3
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Post by: Doomkiller on October 12, 2011, 03:57:30 AM
Oh, so there is still some hope in the gaming industry after all. That's refreshing :3

There is still hope, but it is slowly disappearing..
Alot of games are becoming to much involved in graphical side and money side, a lot of games like to boast about there graphical quality, ask them hows the gameplay and they will just say "its good"

There is still some that not just work for money, but for the game to be of any good. It's becoming rarer, but I find that actually finding a game like that is a lot more refreshing
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 05:33:15 AM
I will not buy the Wii U. Nintendo has lost most of my respect for them now.
Why? Because they make family consoles?

I won't buy the WiiU because I dislike home consoles. They lack... portability... and yet manage to steal most of the "best" games (I'm looking at you, BlazBlue Continuum Shift)

No, because, I lost faith in the Wii, so I have my doubts about the next one.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 05:36:12 AM
Why did you lose faith in the Wii? Not enough shooters? Not enough graphics? Not enough processing power, despite the fact some games on the Wii use most of its processing power (see SM Galaxy and NiGHTS, among others)? Too family-orientated? Not designed for online play? Too much of a pioneering console?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Jonzu95 on October 12, 2011, 05:36:54 AM
I will not buy the Wii U. Nintendo has lost most of my respect for them now.
Why? Because they make family consoles?

I won't buy the WiiU because I dislike home consoles. They lack... portability... and yet manage to steal most of the "best" games (I'm looking at you, BlazBlue Continuum Shift)

No, because, I lost faith in the Wii, so I have my doubts about the next one.
You need a good reason, why you've lost you're faith.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 05:41:36 AM
The games for the Wii sucked (like I said before, but It can be improved), online play is annoying (said before. Friend codes, really?). Also, the games on the Wii just don't appeal to me.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 05:54:02 AM
- The games for the Wii sucked Explain
- Online play is annoying (said before. Friend codes, really?) It's a family console, that feature's designed so only people you know can access you in-game. It's safer that way, better for the kids
- Also, the games on the Wii just don't appeal to me. Not enough shooters, because it's family-orientated
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: powerrave on October 12, 2011, 07:39:13 AM
I have a Wii and I admit to like it. I don't have much games and most don't seem interesting to me, but I have been able to enjoy everything that I do have for it.
And get together with some friends and you can have a sh**load of fun with most things. I remember playing Wii Sports with 2 other people and it was great fun.

Also, if you want violent games on the Wii, get MadWorld and No More Heroes.
I myself like Madworld a lot. LOTS of blood flying everywhere.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 08:03:18 AM
The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 08:03:49 AM
The best games are arcade ports, like NiGHTS, imo
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: powerrave on October 12, 2011, 08:06:03 AM
House of the Dead: Overkill was hecka funny IMO.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 08:07:07 AM
The only redeeming factor IMO is the Virtual Console.
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Post by: JoeBlo on October 12, 2011, 08:20:16 AM
Nothing that you couldnt already get on your computer with emulators though :P

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Post by: cephalopod on October 12, 2011, 09:03:56 AM
The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.


Every COD/generic-blockbuster-shooter game feels different? News to me ;p
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Post by: martymidget on October 12, 2011, 09:35:42 AM
The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.


Every COD/generic-blockbuster-shooter game feels different? News to me ;p

This. It invalidates your point so much that you should stop bringing it up.
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Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 10:25:42 AM
The only redeeming factor IMO is the Virtual Console.
There are good games on Wii; Okami, Metroid Prime, Monster Hunter Tri, Xenoblade Chronicle, Goldeneye 007, Murumasa: The Demon Blade, Sin and Punishment 2, LoZ: TP, Super Mario Galaxy.

The library was mostly filled with shovelware, and most of the 'good' games feel like the same games from years ago.

Examples:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
SSBB
Mario Kart Wii.

That's just what I see.


Every COD/generic-blockbuster-shooter game feels different? News to me ;p
Pahaha
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Post by: Noodle on October 12, 2011, 01:27:02 PM
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible and most of the games are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.

Edit:
I also forgot to mention the dearth of decent games for the Wii.  I mean, many a joke has been made about the meager volume of games for the PS3, but not many about the ridiculous amount of shovel-ware made for the Wii.  90% of the Wii games available are the same repackaged "OMIGAWD MOVING MY CONTROLLER DOES STUFF" crap that's already been released.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 01:35:11 PM
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible(1.) and most of the games(2.) are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.
1. That's never effected great games before. In addition, the Wii's processing power in terms of graphics is not often apparent with the better games of the system. It may not be as good graphically, but games like Super Mario Galaxy can look better than the common generic brown you can tag to 70% of the PS3's shooters, at least in my opinion.

2. Most is not all. Do you ever plan to own all of the games on any system? No, you buy a few, and there are a few great games on Wii.

Your arguments have been used before and are subjective enough to destroy an English Teacher. Come up with one that's original.

As for  the last bit, don't buy it since there are good games on Wii that aren't shovelware. It's not like you buy some random mini game compilation when there's something vaguely decent like Monster Hunter Tri on a console.
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Post by: Badger on October 12, 2011, 01:47:00 PM
My opinion:

PC>Xbox=PS3>Wii

Although I know the Wii is actually more fun for small kids and families.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 01:48:36 PM
My opinion:

PC>Xbox=PS3>Wii

Although I know the Wii is actually more fun for small kids and families.
Go play Madworld. Not for kiddies.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 01:52:55 PM
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible and most of the games are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.

Edit:
I also forgot to mention the dearth of decent games for the Wii.  I mean, many a joke has been made about the meager volume of games for the PS3, but not many about the ridiculous amount of shovel-ware made for the Wii.  90% of the Wii games available are the same repackaged "OMIGAWD MOVING MY CONTROLLER DOES STUFF" crap that's already been released.

Pretty much this how I feel.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 01:59:04 PM
The Wii pretty much sucks.  The whole thing is based on a gimmick.  Once you get tired of being amazed at how flailing your arms does stuff there really isn't much else to it.  Take away the wonder of having motion controls and you realized that the graphics are terrible and most of the games are boring at best.

Still, gimmicks sell.  Thus, the Wii is a huge moneymaker.

It's kind of funny how Microsoft and Sony jumped on the bandwagon with motion controls.  It's even funnier that Kinect actually turned out to be pretty cool rather than just a useless joke.

Edit:
I also forgot to mention the dearth of decent games for the Wii.  I mean, many a joke has been made about the meager volume of games for the PS3, but not many about the ridiculous amount of shovel-ware made for the Wii.  90% of the Wii games available are the same repackaged "OMIGAWD MOVING MY CONTROLLER DOES STUFF" crap that's already been released.

Pretty much this how I feel.
It's an opinion, so stick IMO, rather than "Wii sucks".

Quite simply, there are mostly bad games on Wii, but the good ones are more varied than the good ones on PS3 by genre. I think that sums the Wii up best; it's fine if you don't like it, but it hardly sucks because it doesn't suit you.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Noodle on October 12, 2011, 01:59:56 PM
1. That's never effected great games before. In addition, the Wii's processing power in terms of graphics is not often apparent with the better games of the system. It may not be as good graphically, but games like Super Mario Galaxy can look better than the common generic brown you can tag to 70% of the PS3's shooters, at least in my opinion.

Generic brown is fitting for a gritty shooter.  Who the heck would want to play a gritty game as a SWAT team in the middle of Sesame Street?  Besides, "70% of the PS3's shooters" doesn't speak for the graphics capability of the system (this goes for the Xbox as well).  If you like pixelated, cartoony graphics then that's fine.  It doesn't change the fact that both the 360 and the PS3 can do that and more.

If I ever see graphics like these generated by a Wii, I will eat my shoes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0RUjeJdkZU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0RUjeJdkZU#ws)

2. Most is not all. Do you ever plan to own all of the games on any system? No, you buy a few, and there are a few great games on Wii.

Your arguments have been used before and are subjective enough to destroy an English Teacher. Come up with one that's original.

As for  the last bit, don't buy it since there are good games on Wii that aren't shovelware. It's not like you buy some random mini game compilation when there's something vaguely decent like Monster Hunter Tri on a console.

Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time. (http://www.miniclip.com/)
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 02:01:57 PM
Noodle took all of my reasons and made them better.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
Noodle took all of my reasons and made them better.
Which they sorely needed.

1. That's never effected great games before. In addition, the Wii's processing power in terms of graphics is not often apparent with the better games of the system. It may not be as good graphically, but games like Super Mario Galaxy can look better than the common generic brown you can tag to 70% of the PS3's shooters, at least in my opinion.

Generic brown is fitting for a gritty shooter.  Who the heck would want to play a gritty game as a SWAT team in the middle of Sesame Street?  Besides, "70% of the PS3's shooters" doesn't speak for the graphics capability of the system (this goes for the Xbox as well).  If you like pixelated, cartoony graphics then that's fine.  It doesn't change the fact that both the 360 and the PS3 can do that and more.

If I ever see graphics like these generated by a Wii, I will eat my shoes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0RUjeJdkZU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0RUjeJdkZU#ws)

2. Most is not all. Do you ever plan to own all of the games on any system? No, you buy a few, and there are a few great games on Wii.

Your arguments have been used before and are subjective enough to destroy an English Teacher. Come up with one that's original.

As for  the last bit, don't buy it since there are good games on Wii that aren't shovelware. It's not like you buy some random mini game compilation when there's something vaguely decent like Monster Hunter Tri on a console.

Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time. (http://www.miniclip.com/)
Meh, I like cartoony graphics, pixelated or not, as I can put up with Wii games and more graphically proficient games like TF2. And if you think graphics pays off, then that's fine too. I prefer original game-play (and I do not mean motion controls by this), and I'm not a shooter fan, save for Metroid.

But seriously, it has hardcore games. They are not necessarily shooters, but it has pretty violent games like No More Heroes and Madworld on it exclusively.

Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 12, 2011, 02:15:09 PM
Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time. (http://www.miniclip.com/)


This is mainly true, but there are some good shooters (see Goldeneye) and racers (the F1 games aren't bad on Wii). It does need more hardcore games to make it more relevant to many markets though, I agree, although I think this is partially due to developers thinking the same as many of you think - 'It's a kids console'.
It has so much potential for those types of games, when developers like Treyarch (which so many of you hold highly) don't actually work with it at all and just send awful ports.
If these guys made something FOR the Wii, I bet it'd blow a lot of people's minds. So IMO it's not the console, it's not the buyers, it's not Nintendo (who have made some sweeet Metroid games on Wii), it's 3rd party developers.


Although I'm almost sure that my opinion will be corrected by Nate in a minute.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 02:18:01 PM
Just because my arguments have been used before doesn't make them any less valid.  Hell, the fact that the argument keeps recurring so much without being properly put down speaks lengths about it's validity.  Plus, you're missing my point.  The point was that, minus the shovel-ware and filler games, the Wii's game lineup is very weak.  It doesn't mean all the games are shovelware, but it does mean that the good games are few and far between.  In addition, most of the good games are made by Nintendo themselves (that being said, a good number of them are games that are reused concepts that have already been beat to death).

The Wii's game lineup lacks good shooters and good racing games (two things that could have really taken advantage of the motion controls).  Also, and I know I'm gonna get crap for saying this, it lacks more "hardcore" games.  Before you argue for the case of "casual" games, do keep in mind there's a much less expensive alternative if you want to play lackluster games for the sake of wasting time. (http://www.miniclip.com/)


This is mainly true, but there are some good shooters (see Goldeneye) and racers (the F1 games aren't bad on Wii). It does need more hardcore games to make it more relevant to many markets though, I agree, although I think this is partially due to developers thinking the same as many of you think - 'It's a kids console'.
It has so much potential for those types of games, when developers like Treyarch (which so many of you hold highly) don't actually work with it at all and just send awful ports.
If these guys made something FOR the Wii, I bet it'd blow a lot of people's minds. So IMO it's not the console, it's not the buyers, it's not Nintendo (who have made some sweeet Metroid games on Wii), it's 3rd party developers.


Although I'm almost sure that my opinion will be corrected by Nate in a minute.
I agree with this. As you say, the Wii's best games are made by Nintendo, and the lack of games in certain areas are simply because of 3rd party developers. It DOES need more good games, it's just that no company makes any.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 03:41:57 PM
They can do well if they try. Treyarch didn't.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 03:44:24 PM
Most companies don't
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 03:45:33 PM
But Treyarch has the potential. World at War was an amazing game.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 12, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
More than most. Almost all companies.


And Treyarch haven't used all that potential at all. They concentrate on their XBox and PS3 stuff. Admit it.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 03:50:05 PM
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 12, 2011, 03:52:27 PM
Treyarch could easily make a game FOR the Wii, and it'd be great and all you people could be quiet about there 'not being enough hardcore games', but instead they port it and make it awful.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 03:54:46 PM
Treyarch could easily make a game FOR the Wii, and it'd be great and all you people could be quiet about there 'not being enough hardcore games', but instead they port it and make it awful.

Well then you could change that and I may actually change my view.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 12, 2011, 03:56:52 PM
Could I? XD

And so concluding my point you can't blame the console, or Nintendo etc. It's the developers, that you all put so highly.




Like you all said. A console is nothing without games.
And who makes the games?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 04:00:27 PM
More than most. Almost all companies.
True - Arc System Works, Marvelous Interactive, Jupiter, maybe Camelot (maybe), whoever made 9H9P9D and whoever made Dark Souls are the only companies (in the RPG/Combat sector, I don't look into the others) who focus on gameplay over moneygrabbing nowadays.

Cases in point:

BlazBlue series (Ports of the arcade version, admittedly, but still awesome)
Luminous Arc series (Okay, they've got less good... Granted Luminous Arc 1 and 2 were difficult and I've never played 3 because it's not out in English, but they hit simulation and I tried to throw myself overboard when I heard how much they were changing my precious plot)
Subarashiki Kono Sekai (The World Ends With You) (I mean, just LOOK at that battle system! And before you go all "Square made TWEWY", Jupiter invented the battle system and it's thanks to them that TWEWY's so good)
Golden Sun series (Alright, DD was a bit of a letdown in terms of difficulty, but hey, it had a good story... kinda)
9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors (Have you ever SEEN a game this utterly GRIPPING come out of a modern company? Probably not. Sonny can testify to this game's greatness)
Dark Souls (Never played it, but this comic sums it up pretty well (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/285/b/a/dark_soul_progression_by_scottfalco-d4cl39p.png))
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:03:22 PM
Like you all said. A console is nothing without games.
And who makes the games?

But if the amount of bad games weigh out the good ones, wouldn't that mean it still is a disadvantage, even though it is not Nintendo's fault.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 04:06:00 PM
Like you all said. A console is nothing without games.
And who makes the games?

But if the amount of bad games weigh out the good ones, wouldn't that mean it still is a disadvantage, even though it is not Nintendo's fault.
This is true, and I can't argue against it. But...

The Wii works as a gamecube. It can play Virtual Console. In itself it now has more than enough good games that it can play, technically.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:11:41 PM
But then it shows that you would rather play GCN games, than games from the Wii.

I know you could turn it around with the Virtual Console, but it isn't as easy to obtain those games as the GCN games are.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 04:14:35 PM
But then it shows that you would rather play GCN games, than games from the Wii.

I know you could turn it around with the Virtual Console, but it isn't as easy to obtain those games as the GCN games are.
Hmm fair point. I can't deny this.

You win. The Wii needs more good games to be at the same level as the PS3 for Hardcore gamers, and less crappy ports.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:15:34 PM
You got it.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 04:15:59 PM
The Wii needs more BlazBlue

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Sorry, I had to
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: cephalopod on October 12, 2011, 04:16:33 PM
Like you all said. A console is nothing without games.
And who makes the games?

But if the amount of bad games weigh out the good ones, wouldn't that mean it still is a disadvantage, even though it is not Nintendo's fault.


Your point was that there wasn't enough hardcore games. Not that the ratio of good:bad had to be like 999:1 like the XBox or PS3 must surely be for it to be as good as you make out
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 04:18:11 PM
And now how the Wii brutalizes the PS3 and Xbox in terms of its intended audience.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:22:58 PM
And now how the Wii brutalizes the PS3 and Xbox in terms of its intended audience.

Well don't the 360 and the PS3 do the same thing to a degree as well?
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Meganerdbomb on October 12, 2011, 04:24:32 PM
11 pages? Hard Bot is a much better troll than I gave him credit for.

Not really, you guys are just trolled way to easily.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:27:23 PM
I gave up on him a while ago.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 04:28:04 PM
And now how the Wii brutalizes the PS3 and Xbox in terms of its intended audience.

Well don't the 360 and the PS3 do the same thing to a degree as well?
I mean, the Wii is much better at the main market it's aimed at than the PS3 is. The PS3 has few good platformers (LBP is about the only one) and not many family games, which is undoubtedly where the Wii excells with its better quality mini-game compilations like Warioware, and its host of platformers.

11 pages? Hard Bot is a much better troll than I gave him credit for.

Not really, you guys are just trolled way to easily.
Actually most of this is because somebody tried to turn this into an actual argument. Hard Bot's been more or less ignored for the last 9 pages.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:29:14 PM
I thought you meant the audience it was meant for (the 360 and the PS3 are for more hardcore gamers).
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 12, 2011, 04:33:11 PM
I thought you meant the audience it was meant for (the 360 and the PS3 are for more hardcore gamers).
Yeah, they are more intended for that, no doubt.
I'm technically a Hardcore gamer, since I'm big on the better shooters, as well more complex RPGs, Adventure games, and many others; I just like the Wii as a console for my less serious gaming desires.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 04:35:29 PM
11 pages? Hard Bot is a much better troll than I gave him credit for.

Not really, you guys are just trolled way to easily.
We left Botty alone after grinding his comments to dust and went on to have a nice, seasoned debate about Wiii vs Eggsbox 360 vs PS3
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Chaosmancer on October 12, 2011, 04:41:12 PM
More than most. Almost all companies.

Dark Souls (Never played it, but this comic sums it up pretty well (http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/285/b/a/dark_soul_progression_by_scottfalco-d4cl39p.png))

Demon's Souls and Dark Souls were made by From Software, published by NamcoBandai, and were made to be insanely difficult games that don't hold your hand on the way through. The tutorial for Demon's Souls was literally 'Press circle to backstep' *Do so* *Enemy takes a step forward and stabs you* 'Aww, tough break, should've been paying attention, now fight this massive creature, aww, you died, too bad, fortunately that was the one battle you were supposed to lose'. Seriously, the first words that appear when you press New Game are 'Prepare to die'. Dark Souls is more difficult, it has checkpoints. Dark Souls is also open world, as opposed to Demon's Souls hub system.

The Wii does have 'hardcore' games, if you look hard enough. But then again, that depends on your definition of 'hardcore'. I have heard it used in relevance to RPGs (due to them being a massive timesink) and 18+ games (for gore and guns). And there are examples on the Wii for both definitions, and by examples, I mean good examples.

What I do find funny is that this is essentially what's happened:
Nintendo: We are going to do motion controls
Sony and Microsoft: This will never catch on...
*Nintendo shoots ahead in sales*
Sony: We have stolen the Wiimote design, changed it slightly and incorporated the EyeToy
Microsoft: We have stolen the EyeToy design, improved it greatly, and removed the necessity for a controller
Nintendo: Our next console won't have motion control.

As for staying on topic, this thread has devolved into general industry discussion, from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Meganerdbomb on October 12, 2011, 04:41:53 PM
In terms of raw processing power and graphics capabilities:

PC>PS3>360>>Wii

In terms of good "hardcore" games.

360=PS3>PC>>Wii

In terms of selling consoles.

Wii>>>>>>>360>PS3

(PC is rather hard to compare in this area)

/thread
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:50:47 PM
PCs lead in sales. I posted a graph about it somewhere.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 12, 2011, 04:52:18 PM
PCs lead in sales. I posted a graph about it somewhere.
That would be because 70% of people who own PCs don't use them for gaming
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: powerrave on October 12, 2011, 04:52:38 PM
PC's aren't only gaming systems. They are often used for other purposes like office work and such. You know what I mean.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Natef on October 12, 2011, 04:55:58 PM
That is true.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Chaosmancer on October 12, 2011, 05:06:35 PM
I don't really class PC under console. It is a device which has a primary purpose of work, but can also be used for games. Many people do not buy a PC for the sole purpose of playing games (or if they do, they pay the better part of £1000 for something that is obsolete when it leaves the shop (although this may be becoming less true). Just like the primary purpose of a mobile phone (not android or iPhone) is to contact people via text or by calling them, but it can also be used to play games. I rarely use my PC or phone for gaming, with some exceptions.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Meganerdbomb on October 12, 2011, 05:12:37 PM
I would guess that the sales figures for gaming PCs
 are lower than PS3 or 360, however, you don't even need a gaming PC to outperform an X-box graphics-wise.
I really don't see what is so great about the sh**box 360, as the ps3 is so much better.
Infact, I would go as far as to say that the xbox 360 is so crap, that when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Pwnator on October 13, 2011, 11:35:13 PM
Infact, I would go as far as to say that the xbox 360 is so crap, that when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.

You turn 360 degrees and face the console again.  :trollface
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Meganerdbomb on October 14, 2011, 12:11:46 AM
That's the joke.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Jack Daniels on October 14, 2011, 12:24:02 AM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/14839360.png)
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Badger on October 16, 2011, 08:30:00 AM
I would guess that the sales figures for gaming PCs
 are lower than PS3 or 360, however, you don't even need a gaming PC to outperform an X-box graphics-wise.
I really don't see what is so great about the sh**box 360, as the ps3 is so much better.
Infact, I would go as far as to say that the xbox 360 is so crap, that when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.



*Fanboy alert*


(http://www.airbornegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fanboy-anatomy-funny.jpg)
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Scourge of teh Galaxy on October 16, 2011, 08:47:27 AM
I would guess that the sales figures for gaming PCs
 are lower than PS3 or 360, however, you don't even need a gaming PC to outperform an X-box graphics-wise.
I really don't see what is so great about the sh**box 360, as the ps3 is so much better.
Infact, I would go as far as to say that the xbox 360 is so crap, that when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.



*Fanboy alert*


(http://www.airbornegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fanboy-anatomy-funny.jpg)
Isn't that kind of a pot kettle black scenario? You've claimed before that you're a Microsoft fanboy, if I recall correctly
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: madman3 on October 16, 2011, 08:50:08 AM
I would guess that the sales figures for gaming PCs
 are lower than PS3 or 360, however, you don't even need a gaming PC to outperform an X-box graphics-wise.
I really don't see what is so great about the sh**box 360, as the ps3 is so much better.
Infact, I would go as far as to say that the xbox 360 is so crap, that when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.



*Fanboy alert*


(http://www.airbornegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fanboy-anatomy-funny.jpg)
I needs dis image for Nate-ing.

But yeah, present a few reasonable, uhh, reasons, MNB.
I would guess that the sales figures for gaming PCs
 are lower than PS3 or 360, however, you don't even need a gaming PC to outperform an X-box graphics-wise.
I really don't see what is so great about the sh**box 360, as the ps3 is so much better.
Infact, I would go as far as to say that the xbox 360 is so crap, that when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.



*Fanboy alert*


(http://www.airbornegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fanboy-anatomy-funny.jpg)
Isn't that kind of a pot kettle black scenario? You've claimed before that you're a Microsoft fanboy, if I recall correctly
Oh yeah, I remember that.
Title: Re: Why the Wii is bad, childish and overrated.
Post by: Badger on October 16, 2011, 02:28:56 PM
I would guess that the sales figures for gaming PCs
 are lower than PS3 or 360, however, you don't even need a gaming PC to outperform an X-box graphics-wise.
I really don't see what is so great about the sh**box 360, as the ps3 is so much better.
Infact, I would go as far as to say that the xbox 360 is so crap, that when you see it, you turn 360 degrees and walk away.



*Fanboy alert*


(http://www.airbornegamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/fanboy-anatomy-funny.jpg)
Isn't that kind of a pot kettle black scenario? You've claimed before that you're a Microsoft fanboy, if I recall correctly
In the past, yes.


Not now, though.