the state of gaming...

[System32]

@S32 my opinion is that they are milking the modern military shooter genre way to much and should make room for other games,

Your opinion is wrong. I already told you why at the start. You listed Counter strike as an example. What next? Prototype?
 

they quit hogging the media and social spotlight.

They aren't hogging anything for gods sake. You literally can't see the media hype for the new PC version of Dark Souls: Prepare To Die, Borderlands 2, Planetside 2, Tribes: Ascend because your massive, cancerous cognitive dissonance is clouding your damn eyes and ears.
 

If you don't like my opinion that's fine because everyone's entitled to their own opinion,

Your opinion is WRONG. It started out as an attempt to be "facts" and you fell back on "lol opinion" as soon as I told you why you are wrong. Saying your opinion does not excuse you of being called an idiot. Having an opinion is not a personal flame shield. Like I said, People also have opinions on blacks. They are idiots too, and I'll happily correct them as well.

but calling me an idiot etc. and acting childish is just proving that I have struck a nerve

It's one thing to claim 2+2 = 5, but falling back to "It's my opinion" and then implying you are correct because YOU KEEP INSISTING ON IT WHICH IS ANNOYING ME?

[Enigm@]

Tribes: Ascend

GOTTA SANIC FAST

[GarvinTheGreat]

I have to agree with S32. FPS are aall differnent and they're not just handing out the same sh**. And one of the games you featured in OP was Killzone 3. Just beacuse the games look the same does not mean they are. KZ3 has a very unique storyline.

[Enigm@]

also:

[courthousedoc]

Geez guys can we stop the flaming please?
Anyway FPS's can be art.

I'm sure you heard of Bioshock



I also know of a site where there are some artsy looking games (If you have the paticence to sort through all the trash) including Narbacular Drop (The precursor to Portal & Portal2)

Word of warning: you may want to have your anti-virus on as some of the sites (particularily the older ones) are down or abandoned.
http://www.igf.com/index.html

[Natef]

I have to agree with S32. FPS are aall differnent and they're not just handing out the same sh**. And one of the games you featured in OP was Killzone 3. Just beacuse the games look the same does not mean they are. KZ3 has a very unique storyline.

THANK YOU

[madman3]

I have to agree with S32. FPS are aall differnent and they're not just handing out the same sh**. And one of the games you featured in OP was Killzone 3. Just beacuse the games look the same does not mean they are. KZ3 has a very unique storyline.

THANK YOU

I'm afraid I'm having to disagree to a strong extent with this point. Much while there are unique FPS such as Bulletstorm, it's pretty obvious how the CoD series has simply been performing retreads of previous games with virtually no differences, as with Medal Of Honour, Red Orchestra and some others. While games like Killzone are different in setting the mechanics are almost identical to other FPS in how they play. I do think games like Counter Strike are very different so I'd say it's half and half when it comes to differences.

[Natef]

I don't think so with Red Orchestra. Sure they added a CoD-like game mode, but the main focus on the game is on ultra-realism.

[madman3]

I don't think so with Red Orchestra. Sure they added a CoD-like game mode, but the main focus on the game is on ultra-realism.

Not sure how that makes the game any better :P I play games to have an experience that ISN'T like real life.

[Natef]

It's a nice change of pace from the less realistic FPS games, and relies on more tactics.

[Enigm@]

Geez guys can we stop the flaming please?
Anyway FPS's can be art.

I'm sure you heard of Bioshock



I also know of a site where there are some artsy looking games (If you have the paticence to sort through all the trash) including Narbacular Drop (The precursor to Portal & Portal2)

Word of warning: you may want to have your anti-virus on as some of the sites (particularily the older ones) are down or abandoned.
http://www.igf.com/index.html

Honestly I think the system shock series should be in the smithsonian. I didn't even like bioshack that much..

[madman3]

It's a nice change of pace from the less realistic FPS games, and relies on more tactics.

Does RO have respawns? It's pretty much the system that cripples almost all FPS.

Geez guys can we stop the flaming please?
Anyway FPS's can be art.

I'm sure you heard of Bioshock



I also know of a site where there are some artsy looking games (If you have the paticence to sort through all the trash) including Narbacular Drop (The precursor to Portal & Portal2)

Word of warning: you may want to have your anti-virus on as some of the sites (particularily the older ones) are down or abandoned.
http://www.igf.com/index.html

Honestly I think the system shock series should be in the smithsonian. I didn't even like bioshack that much..

System Shock is tasty. Has the best gaming villain ever too. System Shock 2 is a lil better IMO.

[Natef]

It's a nice change of pace from the less realistic FPS games, and relies on more tactics.

Does RO have respawns? It's pretty much the system that cripples almost all FPS.

Yes.

[madman3]

It's a nice change of pace from the less realistic FPS games, and relies on more tactics.

Does RO have respawns? It's pretty much the system that cripples almost all FPS.

Yes.

Can't say that helps it, especially for a tactical FPS. A lack of respawns works really well in CS/CS:S/CS:GO.

[ianh05]

@S32 my opinion is that they are milking the modern military shooter genre way to much and should make room for other games,

Your opinion is wrong. I already told you why at the start. You listed Counter strike as an example. What next? Prototype?
 

they quit hogging the media and social spotlight.

They aren't hogging anything for gods sake. You literally can't see the media hype for the new PC version of Dark Souls: Prepare To Die, Borderlands 2, Planetside 2, Tribes: Ascend because your massive, cancerous cognitive dissonance is clouding your damn eyes and ears.
 

If you don't like my opinion that's fine because everyone's entitled to their own opinion,

Your opinion is WRONG. It started out as an attempt to be "facts" and you fell back on "lol opinion" as soon as I told you why you are wrong. Saying your opinion does not excuse you of being called an idiot. Having an opinion is not a personal flame shield. Like I said, People also have opinions on blacks. They are idiots too, and I'll happily correct them as well.

but calling me an idiot etc. and acting childish is just proving that I have struck a nerve

It's one thing to claim 2+2 = 5, but falling back to "It's my opinion" and then implying you are correct because YOU KEEP INSISTING ON IT WHICH IS ANNOYING ME?

dude just shut up seriously, opinions can't be wrong. If you want some facts I'll give you some.


All modern military shooters...


Have the same gameplay.
Have the same setting.
Have the same basic story (omg it's WAR!)
Have the same elitist jerks playing online and bragging to friends about how the pwn noobs.
Have the same weapons.
Have the same enemies, just blokes in army gear.


Again there's like 5 or so series! not games, SERIES! with sequels and expansions... a crudload of expansions! It's friggin' overkill and if you don't think so I feel sorry for you (well not now that you've been acting like a complete douche). If everyone and their mother is going to copy military shooters just for the dollars then gaming is dying. The majority of sheep gamers will continue to buy these bland remakes because in gaming circles it's the "cool" thing to do.

You are blind if you can't see the money milking!!! and they are hogging the spotlight because they are the most talked about games, you always hear about the new battlefield, the new call of duty etc. from friends, online, at E3.. and at stores these games are always on display!

[Kossokei]

@S32 my opinion is that they are milking the modern military shooter genre way to much and should make room for other games,

Your opinion is wrong. I already told you why at the start. You listed Counter strike as an example. What next? Prototype?
 

they quit hogging the media and social spotlight.

They aren't hogging anything for gods sake. You literally can't see the media hype for the new PC version of Dark Souls: Prepare To Die, Borderlands 2, Planetside 2, Tribes: Ascend because your massive, cancerous cognitive dissonance is clouding your damn eyes and ears.
 

If you don't like my opinion that's fine because everyone's entitled to their own opinion,

Your opinion is WRONG. It started out as an attempt to be "facts" and you fell back on "lol opinion" as soon as I told you why you are wrong. Saying your opinion does not excuse you of being called an idiot. Having an opinion is not a personal flame shield. Like I said, People also have opinions on blacks. They are idiots too, and I'll happily correct them as well.

but calling me an idiot etc. and acting childish is just proving that I have struck a nerve

It's one thing to claim 2+2 = 5, but falling back to "It's my opinion" and then implying you are correct because YOU KEEP INSISTING ON IT WHICH IS ANNOYING ME?

dude just shut up seriously, opinions can't be wrong. If you want some facts I'll give you some.


All modern military shooters...


Have the same gameplay.
Have the same setting.
Have the same basic story (omg it's WAR!)
Have the same elitist jerks playing online and bragging to friends about how the pwn noobs.
Have the same weapons.
Have the same enemies, just blokes in army gear.


Again there's like 5 or so series! not games, SERIES! with sequels and expansions... a crudload of expansions! It's friggin' overkill and if you don't think so I feel sorry for you (well not now that you've been acting like a complete douche). If everyone and their mother is going to copy military shooters just for the dollars then gaming is dying. The majority of sheep gamers will continue to buy these bland remakes because in gaming circles it's the "cool" thing to do.

You are blind if you can't see the money milking!!! and they are hogging the spotlight because they are the most talked about games, you always hear about the new battlefield, the new call of duty etc. from friends, online, at E3.. and at stores these games are always on display!

If you consider Futuristic as Modern and Metal Gear Solid 2 and 4 as shooters, then I broke your "All Modern Military Shooters are this, this, this, and that" facts list. AJA they aren't true anymore.

Parallel to this, if you consider the plot of Red Steel 2 as military enough, then I just found a modern military FPS that doesn't follow any of those facts, and it's quite artsy in it's own way..

[Natef]

It's a nice change of pace from the less realistic FPS games, and relies on more tactics.

Does RO have respawns? It's pretty much the system that cripples almost all FPS.

Yes.

Can't say that helps it, especially for a tactical FPS. A lack of respawns works really well in CS/CS:S/CS:GO.

CS:GO has a respawning mode.

[ianh05]

MW3 is your classic Arcade shooter, but recently has gone in a Sci-fi terminator-ish apocolypse plot, and Battlefield is your generi modern war.

Lol what? it's a military FPS, not a classic arcade shooter.

Here is a classic arcade shooter:


 


You're a lost soul if you think MW3 is a classic arcade shooter. This alone renders ANYTHING you say mute!

[System32]

MW3 is your classic Arcade shooter, but recently has gone in a Sci-fi terminator-ish apocolypse plot, and Battlefield is your generi modern war.

Lol what? it's a military FPS, not a classic arcade shooter.

You're a lost soul if you think MW3 is a classic arcade shooter. This alone renders ANYTHING you say mute!

No, That's an arcade SHMUP. You can't even get the basics right.

[ianh05]

MW3 is your classic Arcade shooter, but recently has gone in a Sci-fi terminator-ish apocolypse plot, and Battlefield is your generi modern war.

Lol what? it's a military FPS, not a classic arcade shooter.

You're a lost soul if you think MW3 is a classic arcade shooter. This alone renders ANYTHING you say mute!

No, That's an arcade SHMUP. You can't even get the basics right.

MW3 still isn't an arcade game is it? admit you're wrong and get off your high horse mate.

Space invaders is an arcade shooter, it was played in arcades and you shoot... genius... use ya head before you type, or even better don't type at all since all that shows up is utter garbage.

"Shoot 'em up (also known as shmup or STG) is a subgenre of shooter video games. In a shoot 'em up, the player controls a lone character, often in a spacecraft or aircraft".

that's like me saying modern warfare isn't a FPS it's a military shooter, duh.