My point is they are selling basically the same game to people who continue to fork out money for the same stuff. There is not much changing in the genre so why do people continue to buy the games?
Pokemon has changed over the years, and most the games have added new stuff whether it's breeding, new types of pokemon, a load of new pokemon, a new region with new gyms to battle it's all fresh. You can't imagine an FPS game changing much because they have been stuck for so long now thanks to the modern war/military shooters.
You used Gamespot as a source. Would you like to top that off with the Daily Mail and Fox news?I'm clearly not the only person with this opinion is all that's meant to say. There are lots of people out there who want new gameplay not just new skins/maps. Even in world of warcraft people complain when a pvp map is the same game type with only the map changed, it gets very boring. Actually, Gameplay =/= aesthetics. Your argument is over looks. You cannot seriously bring pokemon (A videogame who's most recent aasthetic change was going 3D) in an argument over looks.I didn't bring pokemon into the argument >.> that's not even a genre.Pet training/battle RPGs games have new settings/maps, have new enemies, have new characters, have new skills and even new gameplay.Military FPS games have new maps, new campaign and sometimes new guns and new multi-player modes. it's more difficult to add new enemies that stand out based on the human race alone, it's had to give players new skills when all the do is shoot stuff.
But even in the RPG market there is some crap :LIt seems the handheld and PC gaming is the way to go lately, consul games are not pulling me like the used to.The last game I remember buying was Final Fantasy XIII, I sold it because the story didn't hook me and was no challenge at all and I am seeing more games like this... Planetside I think it is called the MMOFPS
(Image removed from quote.)Are we headed for another video game crash? Are people to silly to realise what crud they are buying?Why do people buy all these War shooters when they are all pretty much the same game?Is online gaming to blame due to people thinking they need to keep up to date?People should stop spending money on the same game and stick to what they have already and get behind innovative games and systems otherwise future generations will have very few choices.
I'm clearly not the only person with this opinion is all that's meant to say. There are lots of people out there who want new gameplay not just new skins/maps. Even in world of warcraft people complain when a pvp map is the same game type with only the map changed, it gets very boring.
Pet training/battle RPGs games have new settings/maps, have new enemies, have new characters, have new skills and even new gameplay.Military FPS games have new maps, new campaign and sometimes new guns and new multi-player modes. it's more difficult to add new enemies that stand out based on the human race alone, it's had to give players new skills when all the do is shoot stuff.
QuoteI'm clearly not the only person with this opinion is all that's meant to say. There are lots of people out there who want new gameplay not just new skins/maps. Even in world of warcraft people complain when a pvp map is the same game type with only the map changed, it gets very boring. LOL some people have opinions about blacks. Like you, they are idiots. QuotePet training/battle RPGs games have new settings/maps, have new enemies, have new characters, have new skills and even new gameplay.Military FPS games have new maps, new campaign and sometimes new guns and new multi-player modes. it's more difficult to add new enemies that stand out based on the human race alone, it's had to give players new skills when all the do is shoot stuff.Exactly. Military FPS is flooding the market as much as Justin bieber is becoming the king dictator of modern music. It isn't happening, it's in your head, something's wrong with you, you are paranoid, THE FREQUENCY OF SOMETHING BEING MENTIONED BY MAINSTREAM DOES NOT IN ANY WAY MEAN THAT THE MARKET IS BEING OVERRUN BY SAID SOMETHING, AND IF YOU DO THINK THAT YOUR OPINION IS STUPID, INVALID AND YOU SHOULDN'T EVER, EVER TELL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING YOUR OPINIONS EVER AGAIN.
and you call my opinion bias...Modern = CheckTo do with war = CheckShooters = checkquit trying to derail this thread, I'm ignoring you now as I see where you stand on it and will wait to have an intelligent conversation with someone else.
This is just one genre. Genres will always look similar to each other and have similar plotlines. They're called cliches and they suck, but the public like them for some reasonTake, for example, the RPG marketMost of the JRPGs out there, especially the famous ones, follow this kind of route:Normal kid, usually aged 10-13, is tasked with saving the world through some means or another, and does soThis easily fits:- Golden Sun series- Pokemon series- Final Fantasy series- Digimon seriesand debatably fits:- Luminous Arc series- Radiant Historia- Tactics Ogre series- Dragon Quest seriesand many othersThe thing that separates these is graphics - some have 2D, some have 3D. Besides that, the core plotline is the same, battles are turn-based, yadda yaddaThe point is, nothing's original any more. It's how you wrap up the core with other things, like graphics, sound, other features, gamepaly. That's what makes it uniqueAnd FPS lost that a long time ago, in my opinion
im just waiting for meganerdbomb to come along and kick things into gear.
Quote from: Scourge of teh Galaxy on June 26, 2012, 07:54:27 AMThis is just one genre. Genres will always look similar to each other and have similar plotlines. They're called cliches and they suck, but the public like them for some reasonTake, for example, the RPG marketMost of the JRPGs out there, especially the famous ones, follow this kind of route:Normal kid, usually aged 10-13, is tasked with saving the world through some means or another, and does soThis easily fits:- Golden Sun series- Pokemon series- Final Fantasy series- Digimon seriesand debatably fits:- Luminous Arc series- Radiant Historia- Tactics Ogre series- Dragon Quest seriesand many othersThe thing that separates these is graphics - some have 2D, some have 3D. Besides that, the core plotline is the same, battles are turn-based, yadda yaddaThe point is, nothing's original any more. It's how you wrap up the core with other things, like graphics, sound, other features, gamepaly. That's what makes it uniqueAnd FPS lost that a long time ago, in my opinionFTFYAll the good RPGs are western these days, like the Witcher and Elder Scrolls games.Also, this thread is totally ripped from a Cracked article.
My point is they are selling basically the same game to people who continue to fork out money for the same stuff. There is not much changing in the genre so why do people continue to buy the games?Pokemon has changed over the years
Fallout is a great RPG with a nontraditional setting.Quote from: ianh05 on June 26, 2012, 08:16:29 AMMy point is they are selling basically the same game to people who continue to fork out money for the same stuff. There is not much changing in the genre so why do people continue to buy the games?Pokemon has changed over the years>10-year-old kid sets out to become a Pokemon master by collecting all the gym badges and eventually defeating the Champion. Also, at some point he has to stop an evil team that wants to use Pokemon for nefarious purposes.
Quote from: Meganerdbomb on June 26, 2012, 03:49:25 PMFallout is a great RPG with a nontraditional setting.Quote from: ianh05 on June 26, 2012, 08:16:29 AMMy point is they are selling basically the same game to people who continue to fork out money for the same stuff. There is not much changing in the genre so why do people continue to buy the games?Pokemon has changed over the years>10-year-old kid sets out to become a Pokemon master by collecting all the gym badges and eventually defeating the Champion. Also, at some point he has to stop an evil team that wants to use Pokemon for nefarious purposes. Fallout is a little to sanboxy for my liking, but it's still very good.And yes, I really doubt the "advancement" of Pokemon, it's really not developed beyond any sort of superficial way.
Quote from: Scourge of teh Galaxy on June 26, 2012, 08:22:20 AMQuote from: ianh05 on June 26, 2012, 08:16:29 AMwhy not try and blend MMORPG elements with shooters? have players group up to take down specific groups etc. and give the bosses more stuff to do instead of just shooting, I mean come on people are more creative then that these days.I believe it's already been doneA military FPSMMORPG complete different classes, city raids and stuff? please link O.o I was thinking about how the classes would work etc.-Medic (Med kits/Needles/Injectors, healer/dps)-Sniper (Sniper rifles, long range burst dps)-Gunslinger (pistols/revolvers, close range burst dps)-Heavy gunner (Chainguns/Rocket lauchers, AoE dps/tank)-Soldier (Machine guns/SMG's, close range sustained dps)-Demolisher (mines/c-4/grenades, AoE dps/tank)-Commando (Shotguns/rifles/knives, close range dps)
Quote from: ianh05 on June 26, 2012, 08:16:29 AMwhy not try and blend MMORPG elements with shooters? have players group up to take down specific groups etc. and give the bosses more stuff to do instead of just shooting, I mean come on people are more creative then that these days.I believe it's already been done
why not try and blend MMORPG elements with shooters? have players group up to take down specific groups etc. and give the bosses more stuff to do instead of just shooting, I mean come on people are more creative then that these days.
I see his point, I still think it would be nice for at least 2 of the developers to stop with the military FPS series and do something different or just make room for other games that don't get recognition because of them. With games like beyond: two souls, last of us and watch dogs coming out I think sales will drop for call of duty etc. then maybe a few of those companies will bring out brand new IPs instead.