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the state of gaming...
« on: June 26, 2012, 06:23:41 AM »



Are we headed for another video game crash?
Are people to silly to realise what crud they are buying?
Why do people buy all these War shooters when they are all pretty much the same game?
Is online gaming to blame due to people thinking they need to keep up to date?


People should stop spending money on the same game and stick to what they have already and get behind innovative games and systems otherwise future generations will have very few choices.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2012, 06:36:04 AM »
BLOOD ON SCREEN

so real
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2012, 06:39:32 AM »
BLOOD ON SCREEN

so real


considering they are first person views, unless the blood is in your eyes and you can still see clearly then it's not realistic :P
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2012, 06:42:39 AM »
Actually I was quoting Duty Calls but yeah, you can't really have much creative room when it comes to war shooters. But then, I never understood the appeal of war shooters anyway when you can go over-the-top like Bulletstorm.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2012, 06:46:13 AM »
I like Battlefield 3.

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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2012, 06:50:25 AM »
Actually I was quoting Duty Calls but yeah, you can't really have much creative room when it comes to war shooters. But then, I never understood the appeal of war shooters anyway when you can go over-the-top like Bulletstorm.


Oh I remember that video lol. I understand the appeal it has to people but I don't know why they buy so many different games that are so similar.


People liked Doom and duke nukem because they were so over the top and the FPS genre was still very new, these modern war shooters have like no creativity in them at all.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2012, 06:52:45 AM »
Don't think I know what Duty Calls is :/

ENLIGHTENMENT TIME

It was made by the developers of Bulletstorm to make fun of other war shooters at the time (including CoD, of course). And you can download it for free, too.

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Fixed your title there.
 
Limbo, Minecraft, God of War1, 2, 3, Borderlands 1, 2, Warhammer: Dawn of War, Team Fortess 2, Pixeljunk Shooter, Risen 2, Mass Effect 1, 2, 3, Sim City, Marvel vs Capcom, Braid...
 
This thread is stupid, biased and fails on a logical basis.
 
You took a subgenre of the FPS genre and called it all of gaming. Please break your discs and never set foot near videogames again.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2012, 06:56:30 AM »
I'd like to hear your reasoning, sys.

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Fixed your title there.
 
Limbo, Minecraft, God of War1, 2, 3, Borderlands 1, 2, Warhammer: Dawn of War, Team Fortess 2, Pixeljunk Shooter, Risen 2, Mass Effect 1, 2, 3, Sim City, Marvel vs Capcom, Braid...
 
This thread is stupid, biased and fails on a logical basis.


what? you can't tell me that having a bunch of different gaming series all pretty much the same that are flooding the gaming market isn't a bad thing.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2012, 07:00:42 AM »
I'd like to hear your reasoning, sys.

Calling a subgrenre the "future of gaming" is so insultingly stupid everytime it happens Peter Jackson gets brain cancer.
 
Fixed your title there.

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This thread is stupid, biased and fails on a logical basis.
what? you can't tell me that having a bunch of different gaming series all pretty much the same that are flooding the gaming market isn't a bad thing.

It isn't flooding any market, retard. They are niche games with high publicity because the niche they market is large.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2012, 07:06:42 AM »
not flooding the market? ok then let's list the modern war shooters for ya...


Counter-strike
Call of Duty
Battlefield
Medal of Honor
Rainbow Six
Ghost Recon
and more...

they pretty much all have a load of squeals too! 6 franchises, all pretty much still releasing games in a single sub-genre. You can quit with the name calling too.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2012, 07:23:36 AM »
not flooding the market? ok then let's list the modern war shooters for ya...


Counter-strike
Call of Duty
Battlefield
Medal of Honor
Rainbow Six
Ghost Recon
and more...

they pretty much all have a load of squeals too! 6 franchises, all pretty much still releasing games in a single sub-genre. You can quit with the name calling too.

HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED THESE GAMES YOU MORON?
 
Counter strike, Battlefield, Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six have waaaaay less in common with the genre you are complaining about, and even with the recent additions, Counter Strike is so absolutely different it might as well be goddamn alien.
 
Edit: Counter strike's latest version:
 

 
MW3:
 

 
 
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2012, 07:29:59 AM »
and you call my opinion bias...


Modern = Check
To do with war = Check
Shooters = check


quit trying to derail this thread, I'm ignoring you now as I see where you stand on it and will wait to have an intelligent conversation with someone else.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2012, 07:53:10 AM »
Modern = Check
To do with war = Check
Shooters = check

Holy heck that is a seriously stupid way to give logic.
 
You are the dumbest person on GTM. You deserve a medal, and some pop-up books.
 
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Has robots = CHECK
Build robots = CHECK
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SEE TOTALLY FLOODED MARKET DERP LOL
 
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2012, 07:54:27 AM »
This is just one genre. Genres will always look similar to each other and have similar plotlines. They're called cliches and they suck, but the public like them for some reason

Take, for example, the RPG market

Most of the RPGs out there, especially the famous ones, follow this kind of route:

Normal kid, usually aged 10-13, is tasked with saving the world through some means or another, and does so

This easily fits:
- Golden Sun series
- Pokemon series
- Final Fantasy series
- Digimon series

and debatably fits:
- Luminous Arc series
- Radiant Historia
- Tactics Ogre series
- Dragon Quest series

and many others

The thing that separates these is graphics - some have 2D, some have 3D. Besides that, the core plotline is the same, battles are turn-based, yadda yadda

The point is, nothing's original any more. It's how you wrap up the core with other things, like graphics, sound, other features, gamepaly. That's what makes it unique


And FPS lost that a long time ago, in my opinion
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2012, 08:16:29 AM »
http://au.gamespot.com/battlefield-3/videos/military-shooter-genre-fatigue-6347058/


My point is they are selling basically the same game to people who continue to fork out money for the same stuff. There is not much changing in the genre so why do people continue to buy the games?


Pokemon has changed over the years, and most the games have added new stuff whether it's breeding, new types of pokemon, a load of new pokemon, a new region with new gyms to battle it's all fresh. You can't imagine an FPS game changing much because they have been stuck for so long now thanks to the modern war/military shooters.


why not try and blend MMORPG elements with shooters? have players group up to take down specific groups etc. and give the bosses more stuff to do instead of just shooting, I mean come on people are more creative then that these days.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2012, 08:20:34 AM »
Modern = Check
To do with war = Check
Shooters = check

Holy heck that is a seriously stupid way to give logic.
 
You are the dumbest person on GTM. You deserve a medal, and some pop-up books.
 
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Let's see:
 
Has robots = CHECK
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SEE TOTALLY FLOODED MARKET DERP LOL


because there's a tonne of those games asking for peoples money while providing nothing new right?

now can someone ban him for good? clearly no one can have constructive conversation with him about something he has a different view on and constant put downs aren't called for, you don't see me calling you names despite my view being different.
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2012, 08:22:20 AM »
why not try and blend MMORPG elements with shooters? have players group up to take down specific groups etc. and give the bosses more stuff to do instead of just shooting, I mean come on people are more creative then that these days.
I believe it's already been done
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Re: the state of gaming...
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2012, 08:25:45 AM »
why not try and blend MMORPG elements with shooters? have players group up to take down specific groups etc. and give the bosses more stuff to do instead of just shooting, I mean come on people are more creative then that these days.
I believe it's already been done


A military FPSMMORPG complete different classes, city raids and stuff? please link O.o I was thinking about how the classes would work etc.



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