Nintendo 2DS

[090901]

They're aiming it at people who want a 3DS, but can't or are not willing to pay the full price. Targeting people who don't really want your product is a pretty bad strategy for this market. It may be a good idea in principle, but I predict that it'll flop pretty bad.

I'm pretty sure its more aimed at children (5-10) mainly due to the fact that it has no hinge which means that it is harder to break (I used to have a DS until my 5 year old brother found it and snapped it in half  ).

[Badger]

Yeah, fair enough, I snapped one of my DSes in half. Then again, they're pretty likely to trash one of the screens as well. Pick your poison. On the other hand, maybe not. My video-game related stuff was the only thing I really looked after when I was young. I took pride in having 0 scratches on my discs, screens etc.. And the manufacturer can't really be responsible for your kid throwing his expensive bit of kit across the room when he fails at mario.

[cephalopod]

I don't want to pay as much as they want for a 3DS and I wouldn't use the 3D feature... I wish they'd fill my niche... OH WAIT. I'm actually happy about this. The design looks different and interesting - probably designed to take on tablets.a

DS
DS Lite
DSi
DSi XLs.

Unless you're desperate for Mario Kart 7 or Pokemon X/Y, this thing is pretty useless. Better off getting a used (But in perfect condition) DS Lite for less than half the price. For that, you can play GBA games (Proper pokemon, etc.) and you get the screen-protecting clamshell design. Oh, and it doesn't look hideous

Lol, I thought I was implying I wanted to play 3DS games. I have a GBA and a DS and a GBA emulator on my phone. I'm pretty sure I can play GBA/DS games. Besides, if you're gonna go the 'Proper Pokemon' route let's go play Red/Green/Blue kay? I had a feeling I'd be seeing idiotic responses...

[playzooki]

these games are for 3d though, they might not be as good as 2d.

although i dont really care, like i said gbas ftw

[cephalopod]

Honestly, if you think 3D adds anything to the gameplay apart from possibly aesthetically...

[ty4er]

EDIT: Also, it's supposed to be for parents buying for kids, that don't want to pay the full price of a 3DS. If you're a young kid, and the money isn't yours, you don't care. You'll ask for the 3DS for christmas/birthday/whatever. No kid will want a 2DS unless it's their own money. And most 6 year olds don't have £120 (or however much it is) to throw around

i want a 2ds because i'm not an asshole and i know that the 2ds has everything that i would use from a 3ds. the 3ds would just be wasted money

I don't want to pay as much as they want for a 3DS and I wouldn't use the 3D feature... I wish they'd fill my niche... OH WAIT. I'm actually happy about this. The design looks different and interesting - probably designed to take on tablets.a

DS
DS Lite
DSi
DSi XLs.

Unless you're desperate for Mario Kart 7 or Pokemon X/Y, this thing is pretty useless. Better off getting a used (But in perfect condition) DS Lite for less than half the price. For that, you can play GBA games (Proper pokemon, etc.) and you get the screen-protecting clamshell design. Oh, and it doesn't look hideous

>not getting both

also are you trying to tell me that there aren't going to be any more good 3ds games that i wont buy later on?
lol ok

[Badger]

@Ty4er

List of 3DS games I would consider buying if I had a 3DS:






Long list, eh? And I don't see anything coming out in the forseeable future that would interest me. Of course you may beg to differ, but why not just get a 3DS to play 3DS games? Because it's more expensive than the 2DS, right? That's only because It's your money, so you want to buy it to save your money. If, hypothetically, your parents were to buy you a handheld Nintendo console for christmas, you would obviously ask for the 3DS, no? When you're a 5-10 year old kid (target market) and you ask mommy and daddy for a christmas present, every kid would ask for a 3DS over a 2DS.

[ty4er]

Also, you just re-enforced my point. It's your money, so you want to buy it to save your money. If, hypothetically, your parents were to buy you a handheld Nintendo console for christmas, you would obviously ask for the 3DS, no?

no, i'd rather the money be spent on something else

[cephalopod]

No.
1) my parent's can't spend a lot on me.
2) I know I wouldn't use the 3D so it'd be wasted money.

Also, 3DS-wise, I'd like to get Pokemon X/Y, MK7, Animal Crossing, and the Smash Bros game next year. That's without looking at 3rd party stuff.

Finally, I must post this. It is so very apt. Beware it has swears and stuff.
http://www.dorkly.com/article/53774/satoru-iwata-clears-up-the-confusion-over-the-nintendo-2ds

[Badger]

@ty4er Fair enough. The target market would not think like that, let me assure you.

[Incredirobotwars]

Honestly, if you think 3D adds anything to the gameplay apart from possibly aesthetically...

Since when are aesthetics not important? How else would you explain the constant increase in graphics quality in video games?

I mean, don't get me wrong, it's good that they're covering everyone in game releases that are coming up, but I don't see why everyone hates the 3D feature. I like having it there...I don't use it often, but I am glad that I have it. Also, if it hurts your head when using the 3D that is your problem.

My opinion: No need for an argument over it. My only problem is with the points people raise with their arguments.

[cephalopod]

I dunno - I'm also one of those people that slates the constant strive for improved graphics when it's not graphics that make a game. Hell, I'd much rather play Pac-Man or Tetris than Ride to Hell: Retribution.

[Badger]

I dunno - I'm also one of those people that slates the constant strive for improved graphics when it's not graphics that make a game. Hell, I'd much rather play Pac-Man or Tetris than Ride to Hell: Retribution.

That's because RTH is the worst game ever made, nothing to do with the graphics.

I like the 3D feature. Doesn't hurt my eyes at all, and I  find it works quite well.

[cephalopod]

I dunno - I'm also one of those people that slates the constant strive for improved graphics when it's not graphics that make a game. Hell, I'd much rather play Pac-Man or Tetris than Ride to Hell: Retribution.

That's because RTH is the worst game ever made, nothing to do with the graphics.

And as expected you completely missed the point. RTH being the 'worst game ever made' only backs my point up - enhanced graphics do not make a better game.
Does that game have better graphics than Tetris or Pacman? Yes.
It is a better game than Tetris or Pacman? No.
Thus does better graphics mean a game is better? No. Stop being an idiot.

[ty4er]

i dont see the point in 3d, it's just a dumb gimmick that people will get bored of in an hour. it doesn't really add much to the gameplay apart from aesthetics which, as craig said, doesn't matter. it's good that they're selling the 2ds, which is different to the other handhelds but with no silly gimmicks that i need to pay an extra £40 for

[RpJk]

In my honest opinion the 3D in 3DS was the most pointless piece of crap I`ve ever seen. I only got the 3ds because of games like Kid Icarus Uprising, Project X Zone, Virtues Last Reward, Kingdom Hearts 3D, Pokemon X and Y , Link to the past 2 etc. It`s like why I got the Playstation Vita, to get games like Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD, Touch My Katamari, Killzone Mercenary, Mortal Kombat, Gravity Rush, Gods Eater 2 etc. I don`t care much about gimmicks like the 3DS`s 3d and the Vita`s pointless rear touch pad because as a matter of fact all I want is to have a handheld games console that I can play whether I`m on a flight to Bristol or waiting at a bus stop or I`m on the hole crapping out a brick.

Apologies for side stepping there I think the 2DS is a great idea as it opens up the opportunity for wee kids to play it without parents concerned. All Nintendo needs to do now in order to win the console war before the end of the next gen is to break its consoles into China. (which it has sort of done)

[Badger]

@craaig Yes, IMHO it does make a better game, but RTH was so godawful in every other department that overall it was a terrible game. Would you rahter play, say for example, Crysis on Very Low settings or Ultra settings, assuming you get a good framerate and all that?

Also, good graphics =/= advanced graphics. Advanced graphics (high poly count, high res textures etc.) Add nothing if you can't use those graphics well with nice textures and good models/sprites.

And if graphics mean absolutely nothing, why not have all games made in ASCII art? It's a hell of a lot cheaper to render.

[Chaosmancer]

And if graphics mean absolutely nothing, why not have all games made in ASCII art? It's a hell of a lot cheaper to render.

Because modern day people would shun that regardless of how well the game functioned. Another reason would be because we have the assets to do better, so therefore people put a bit more work in and do better. Plus people would probably need a lot more time to figure out interfaces and suchlike. Just look at Ancient Domains of Mystery for an example.

And although you say that you can restrict the 3D effect, how many parents know how to or bother to figure it out? Plus, if the 2DS is sturdier and you are buying it for a child, why would you get something that is weaker, more expensive and has a superfluous function that the child will never figure out how to use properly because you need to be looking at it dead on at the right distance, the right amount of 3D, and the stars need to be aligned for it to work, or would you get the cheaper one that is less likely to break (assuming it is actually sturdier than the 3DS when not taking the hinge into account)?

[Badger]

Alright, take gen 1 of pokemon. Very low texture/sprite resoultion, and some of the sprites are hideously bad. But you'd rather play it with those graphics compared to ascii graphics, no? Graphics are a part of the game, just not part of the gameplay.

I'm not sure about the 2DS being sturdier than the 3DS. Sure, there's no hinges but those screens look pretty vulnerable...

[Pwnator]

Sure, there's no hinges but those screens look pretty vulnerable...

Do you guys bring your handhelds around without a pouch or case of some sort? Not being snarky, it's a serious question.