Author Topic: Urjaks Old and Masterful Showcase (Read 164820 times)

Somebody · « **Reply #460 on:** August 25, 2010, 05:33:05 PM »

LW SnS aren't good anyways. I cannot stray from them though. I don't think my chances in CCIV are too good. You might beat me again Urjak!

Urjak · « **Reply #461 on:** August 25, 2010, 05:59:05 PM »

Quote from: Somebody on August 25, 2010, 05:33:05 PM

LW SnS aren't good anyways. I cannot stray from them though. I don't think my chances in CCIV are too good. You might beat me again Urjak!

It would be cool if we met in Clash Cubes for the fourth time.

Somebody · « **Reply #462 on:** August 25, 2010, 06:35:05 PM »

It would be cool. I gotta get working on a LW SnS/HS...

Urjak · « **Reply #463 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:10:55 AM »

Hello everybody! Here is a scaled up version of DWKII, I call it Kills With Knives:

Kills With Knives is a MW Face Spinner (?) with 9 razors and 9 typhoon spikes on three piglets for weapons, and two NPC regulars for drive. Unlike Dances With Knives, KWK does not deal a quick death. Instead it grinds away at its opponents, often removing ever part of the bot before finally destroying the chassis (if it gets the chance). Kills With Knives is of my better MWs, being able to out wedge and destroy nearly every MW in NAR AI.

Any comments would be appreciated. :D

Naryar · « **Reply #464 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:15:37 AM »

As long as my testing went, angled spinners with an uneven number of spinners = wedge fail.

Urjak · « **Reply #465 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:17:53 AM »

Quote from: Naryar on August 28, 2010, 02:15:37 AM

As long as my testing went, angled spinners with an uneven number of spinners = wedge fail.

What?! This bot's wedge blows everybody out of the park. HNM4 is the only bot I have found thus far who can consistently out wedge it. (This is not to say it can beat many HWs, most just knock KWK out of the way, even when my wedge wins.)

Pwnator · « **Reply #466 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:18:51 AM »

That's because you used powerful spinners. Lots of weak spinners dissipate the force from the opposite motors so essentially it only has to deal with the force of one piglet, which isn't much. :P

Urjak · « **Reply #467 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:23:35 AM »

@ Pwnator: Are you saying that because my bot uses weaker motors, there is less force to deal with and thus a better wedge?

I also think I owe my good wedge to the fact that my entire robot's weight rests on the wedge.

FOTEPX · « **Reply #468 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:24:13 AM »

Dang... Able to take out F&F? Good job. Anyways, replace the vlads with mini's, do a load of weight reduction and try to get as many razors on there as you can.

Urjak · « **Reply #469 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:25:07 AM »

Quote from: FOTEPX on August 28, 2010, 02:24:13 AM

Dang... Able to take out F&F? Good job. Anyways, replace the vlads with mini's, do a load of weight reduction and try to get as many razors on there as you can.

Why exactly do I need more razors?

Naryar · « **Reply #470 on:** August 28, 2010, 02:25:29 AM »

Quote from: FOTEPX on August 28, 2010, 02:24:13 AM

Anyways, replace the vlads with mini's,

No ! It's a gut-ripper, it needs speed.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #471 on:** August 28, 2010, 09:32:01 AM »

Lol so it out wedge my Soda Pop?

I never get this whole wedge thing anyway. It seems completely inconsistent with all the theories people proposed.

Urjak · « **Reply #472 on:** August 28, 2010, 11:21:57 AM »

Quote from: 123savethewhales on August 28, 2010, 09:32:01 AM

Lol so it out wedge my Soda Pop?.

Yep...

Practically every time.

Quote from: 123savethewhales on August 28, 2010, 09:32:01 AM

I never get this whole wedge thing anyway. It seems completely inconsistent with all the theories people proposed.

I think we underestimate the role of weight distribution.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #473 on:** August 28, 2010, 11:31:03 AM »

I don't know. I have extensively tested the weight distribution thing, rather the weight should be in front of or behind the metal hinge. The result seemed rather inconsistent.

Urjak · « **Reply #474 on:** August 28, 2010, 11:33:41 AM »

Quote from: 123savethewhales on August 28, 2010, 11:31:03 AM

I don't know. I have extensively tested the weight distribution thing, rather the weight should be in front of or behind the metal hinge. The result seemed rather inconsistent.

Hmm... then what else? I mean it outwedges robot with small wedges, (the triangular thing that Soda Pop and others have) with according to modern theory it should have a hard time doing.

Naryar · « **Reply #475 on:** August 28, 2010, 11:35:47 AM »

Wedge efficiency mainly around bot design, stability and weight distribution. Small wedges and metal hinges come secondary.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #476 on:** August 28, 2010, 11:49:59 AM »

Quote from: Naryar on August 28, 2010, 11:35:47 AM

Wedge efficiency mainly around bot design, stability and weight distribution. Small wedges and metal hinges come secondary.

Lol the next question will be, how to win the wedge war from there on, when most bots have wheels in the back and are also fairly stable.

Quote from: Urjak on August 28, 2010, 11:33:41 AM

Hmm... then what else? I mean it outwedges robot with small wedges, (the triangular thing that Soda Pop and others have) with according to modern theory it should have a hard time doing.

If I know that I will be the best wedge builder on GTM. If you got the time for testing, put an extender/small wedge on KwK, and see which version has a better wedge.

Pwnator · « **Reply #477 on:** August 28, 2010, 11:51:22 AM »

Quote from: 123savethewhales on August 28, 2010, 11:49:59 AM

Quote from: Naryar on August 28, 2010, 11:35:47 AM
Wedge efficiency mainly around bot design, stability and weight distribution. Small wedges and metal hinges come secondary.
Lol the next question will be, how to win the wedge war from there on, when most bots have wheels in the back and are also fairly stable.

BALLASTS!

Naryar · « **Reply #478 on:** August 28, 2010, 11:53:43 AM »

Quote from: Pwnator on August 28, 2010, 11:51:22 AM

Quote from: 123savethewhales on August 28, 2010, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: Naryar on August 28, 2010, 11:35:47 AM
Wedge efficiency mainly around bot design, stability and weight distribution. Small wedges and metal hinges come secondary.
Lol the next question will be, how to win the wedge war from there on, when most bots have wheels in the back and are also fairly stable.

MOAR weight at the front

There i fixed it.

Virus Bomb · « **Reply #479 on:** August 28, 2010, 04:16:05 PM »

I'm not to sure about this but the wedges might be good because the bot's chassis is tilted downwards when on the floor, putting more pressure on the wedge.