Author Topic: The DSL Super Efficient Designs of The Ounce  (Read 107284 times)

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #620 on: October 17, 2010, 12:52:11 PM »
Looks good, it must take ages to get chasis's that tight.

Also, wat are the large battery's equivalent to in terms of ants? I always thought they were equal to 10 ants?

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #621 on: October 17, 2010, 02:51:58 PM »
Looks cool, most likely something similar would become if I rebuilt Elevator a second time...

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #622 on: October 17, 2010, 03:46:59 PM »
That is extremely good chassis management, well done. If you used straight panels for the front armour, and added a Small Wedge component to the front wedge, would that help?
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #623 on: October 17, 2010, 04:23:18 PM »

Fastest MW Beta flipper I've ever seen.

That is extremely good chassis management, well done. If you used straight panels for the front armour, and added a Small Wedge component to the front wedge, would that help?


He said the wedge is already pretty good.  If anything, it needs a bit more battery, but obviously that's not going to happen.

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #624 on: October 20, 2010, 07:33:30 AM »
I had just realized that Gammaraze V had AGOD   ::2mad

So I made a new one:

It uses the same internal setup as the first one, but I managed to gain enough weight to upgrade the wedges, and it now has an aluminum skirt at the back to increase stability.
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #625 on: October 20, 2010, 07:50:44 AM »
Skin it and send it to me plz.

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #626 on: October 20, 2010, 10:47:09 AM »
Does it have DSA or is that the Skin?
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #627 on: October 21, 2010, 03:39:37 AM »
Does it have DSA

Don't be stupid, why would ounce use DSA?

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #628 on: October 21, 2010, 08:47:32 AM »
I have to agree with Naryar... Top builders wont use DSA in DSL. It's obvious...

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #629 on: October 21, 2010, 10:15:00 AM »
Does it have DSA

Don't be stupid, why would ounce use DSA?

It could have been a mistake. Just asking 'cos it has a white skin.
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #630 on: November 26, 2010, 04:25:19 AM »
I'm pretty sure you remember this from TAR:

OK maybe not since I never used it :P.

Still, now it's back, in HW form:

5 ants, NPCFs, 5mm titanium, 24 razors, 22 beater bars, and the rest is visible.

I know it's essentially ReFraction with a vertical spinner, and I know the VS weaponry is kind of mediocre, but it has a pretty good wedge, and the spinner makes it less boring to watch than ReFraction, so I'm happy with it.   :approve:
 
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #631 on: November 26, 2010, 04:29:41 AM »
How about removing some of the razors from the racks and putting them on the VS instead? A dual mag seems to be overkill with that kind of weaponry.
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #632 on: November 26, 2010, 04:34:40 AM »
I agree.. the VS part seems rather worthless with LW class weaponry

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #633 on: November 26, 2010, 04:35:47 AM »
Agree with Pwn about the motor, but I suggest reducing to perm 80 or mag for more weapons.

It is refraction after all.  Time is not of the essence.

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #634 on: November 26, 2010, 04:40:38 AM »
Plus you screwed up invertibility with the extra long ME...

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #635 on: November 26, 2010, 04:43:28 AM »
Maybe it can self right........  If not then yeah that need to be fixed.

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #636 on: November 26, 2010, 04:44:13 AM »
Plus you screwed up invertibility with the extra long ME...

If it's for the sake of non-yawner matches, then why not? :P
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #637 on: November 26, 2010, 07:26:18 PM »
Really the VS is there only to de-shell SS, so I really shouldn't worry about having little weaponry on it.  Besides, Kheper got away with weighing half as much and having half the weaponry. 

Still:

I would call this version better.  Apart from the VS, everything is the same.

Plus you screwed up invertibility with the extra long ME...
Doesn't make a difference, this one drives inverted just as poorly as the first one.
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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #638 on: November 26, 2010, 08:05:14 PM »
Well the way this game works HW need more than 2x weapon that of a MW.  Because batteries, chassis, metal hinge, small wedge, and NPC Fast are all fix cost.  This is also why a SHW tend to have 2x the weapon of a HW while weighting only 50% more.

That said, I just thought it was too much motor/extender weight for that weapon system, when a Perm 80 would do just fine.

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Re: The DSL Designs of The Ounce
« Reply #639 on: December 04, 2010, 04:20:21 PM »
Ugh... I can't believe I've had to rebuild this so many times, but here's another version of Pulsar, vDB2:

5mm titanium, 5 ants, NPC fasts, Extra Large Perm 132s.

For once I've managed to make it fairly decent.  Fast, durable weaponry, and hard to KO.  The only real problem is that the wheels are very exposed and will inevitably get torn off in most matches, but if you think that it is completely helpless without its wheels, then you are DEAD. WRONG.

Also, yes, the weapons are concentric and they counter-rotate, for those who can't tell.
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