Author Topic: NFX.showcase/DSL (Read 225154 times)

NFX · « **Reply #180 on:** August 31, 2010, 01:01:40 PM »

What was wrong with the armour to start with?

Naryar · « **Reply #181 on:** August 31, 2010, 01:22:14 PM »

The DSL armors are not as equally efficient. Remember what we say about aluminium is bad ? Now it isn't.

Quote from: G.K. on August 31, 2010, 12:21:05 PM

However, if I build a bot and apply one of your new armours, and then decide to take it back into DSL or enter a DSL tournament, the bot becomes totally illegal.

But making it legal is a very easy BFE OR botlab job !

But i see a point taken here. Armor changes are probably coming too quickly - they will be implemented into my next mod, but not into NAR AI.

NFX · « **Reply #182 on:** August 31, 2010, 01:44:05 PM »

It's not that much of a difference in efficiency, though, is it? I thought 5mm Aluminium was quite good, besides.

Naryar · « **Reply #183 on:** August 31, 2010, 01:46:01 PM »

It's a small change in efficiency, but enough hitpoints to make a change. But it mostly makes a change on Alu and Steel.

5mm alu is

. You're thinking of 5mm steel.

NFX · « **Reply #184 on:** August 31, 2010, 01:47:31 PM »

Oh, right. Most people use external armour anyway, I didn't think it would matter terrifically much if they were a little bit unequal.

Pwnator · « **Reply #185 on:** August 31, 2010, 06:23:32 PM »

You might want to downgrade to a piglet for the BW, like this:

Mine needs to sacrifice something for another ant, but yeah. :P

NFX · « **Reply #186 on:** August 31, 2010, 06:41:40 PM »

Would you not need to make a bit of a bigger chassis there for said ant? And I switched the TWMR3 for a Piglet at Naryar's reccomendation on the BW and the LW. Might put it back on the LW, though.

Somebody · « **Reply #187 on:** August 31, 2010, 07:29:24 PM »

@Nary and G.K.: Just so you know, the parts do not all revert. Like attaching Betas outside the chassis. That would and could never happen IRL.

And if we are so worried about "real life", how come everything needs to be equally efficient?

In robot wars, there was a reason Shunt switched from an axe blade to a "diamond-tipped axe". Even if both weapons had the same force behind them, the hammer would do more damage than the axe, because it has a smaller point of impact, and has more force.

Also in real life, there are no 10mm armors, especially not in something heavy like steel. And 10mm of steel would have a different efficiency for the weight as 10mm Titanium. Exactly why they are DIFFERENT METALS. Titanium provides weight efficiency, but if you really want the protection, you sacrifice the weight for the less-efficient steel.

Edit: <<Check it

G.K. · « **Reply #188 on:** September 01, 2010, 05:45:08 AM »

Quote from: Somebody on August 31, 2010, 07:29:24 PM

@Nary and G.K.: Just so you know, the parts do not all revert. Like attaching Betas outside the chassis. That would and could never happen IRL.

I know, but the beta would stay attached to wherever it was, as the attachement points are written in the bot file. I'm sure Nary edityed the original one rather than adding another.

Pwnator · « **Reply #189 on:** September 01, 2010, 05:52:25 AM »

Quote from: NFX on August 31, 2010, 06:41:40 PM

Would you not need to make a bit of a bigger chassis there for said ant?

Just clone my chassis shape and raise its height so another ant can fit. It should still be lighter than the chassis you have now. But there's always the risk of having your wheels torn off, especially at sub-LW classes.

123savethewhales · « **Reply #190 on:** September 02, 2010, 02:21:34 PM »

Quote from: NFX on August 31, 2010, 01:47:31 PM

Oh, right. Most people use external armour anyway, I didn't think it would matter terrifically much if they were a little bit unequal.

Oh they are beyond "a little bit" worst if you are considering opportunity cost. You are roughly paying 1kg for 20 hp for upgrading.

Better off downgrade to plastic 5 and put another piece of external.

NFX · « **Reply #191 on:** September 05, 2010, 11:53:47 AM »

Inspired by this quote from JoeBlo...

Quote from: JoeBlo on September 05, 2010, 09:09:39 AM

my brother has a portable BBQ that has wheels that look like shiny hubs :P I should take a pic sometime

It's a ten minute job or so, BUT I HAD TO!!! =D

J · « **Reply #192 on:** September 05, 2010, 11:55:08 AM »

Quote from: NFX on September 05, 2010, 11:53:47 AM

Inspired by this quote from JoeBlo...

Quote from: JoeBlo on September 05, 2010, 09:09:39 AM
my brother has a portable BBQ that has wheels that look like shiny hubs :P I should take a pic sometime

It's a ten minute job or so, BUT I HAD TO!!! =D

(Image removed from quote.)

Such a win design.
It needs some crazy method of being able to roast things :3

Naryar · « **Reply #193 on:** September 05, 2010, 11:55:52 AM »

You should angle the wheel extenders so it looks cooler.

Squirrel_Monkey · « **Reply #194 on:** September 05, 2010, 11:57:12 AM »

Add a lid on a piston (make it a SHW)

Vertigo · « **Reply #195 on:** September 05, 2010, 11:57:30 AM »

Quote from: NFX on September 05, 2010, 11:53:47 AM

Inspired by this quote from JoeBlo...

Quote from: JoeBlo on September 05, 2010, 09:09:39 AM
my brother has a portable BBQ that has wheels that look like shiny hubs :P I should take a pic sometime

It's a ten minute job or so, BUT I HAD TO!!! =D

(Image removed from quote.)

LOL

powerrave · « **Reply #196 on:** September 05, 2010, 12:24:20 PM »

i'm getting hungry now.

Pwnator · « **Reply #197 on:** September 05, 2010, 09:24:40 PM »

When teamed up with an accurate flipper... :O

G.K. · « **Reply #198 on:** September 06, 2010, 12:25:58 AM »

Quote from: Pwnator on September 05, 2010, 09:24:40 PM

When teamed up with an accurate flipper... :O

YES

Somebody · « **Reply #199 on:** September 06, 2010, 01:26:35 PM »