Jets' DSL showcase

[Jet-speed]

Ohai, I'm back! ;o
 
Those who don't remember me, (not that I was particularly well known anyway) I was a member of GTM which joined what's possibly over two years ago. I was around for about two or three months, then real life issues kicked in and I dissapeared from the forums and pretty much abandoned RA2; which I had played for a year or two prior to joining.
       I've been moping around the forums in secrecy recently though, using the offchance that I get to fiddle with RA2, and have decided that now things have calmed down I'll give it another shot; being older and wiser, well maybe not the latter...
 
For those that don't know me. Ohai, i'm new. :3
 
Anyway, been trying my hand at DSL since I never was good at stacking and fully taking advantages of the stock glitches which you needed really to be competetive; so bear with me.
 

 
This is 'Slow Response', a middleweight rammer which I made not so long ago.
 
Power: Four ants (overpowered I know).
Drive: Two fast NPC-T64's.
Armour: Don't quote me on this, but I think it's Tite 3 or 5 (sorry can't remember, I iz useless. ;<).
Weapons: 16 razors.
 
Built it last night, has a skirt hinge with 3 40cm Alu skirts folded back underneath to serve as mediocre gut-ripper protection (not sure if this really confides with realism, please do say xD). Wheel guards are mainly there since I can't drive; it's way too fast and I end up inevitably getting flanked at some point, (and I don't want wheels being ripped off :P) although they do work nicely as stabilisation also, and stop it getting stuck on it's back.
 
Pros:
-Invertible
-Angled razors to help damage wedges
-Long battery life
-Can take quite a few hard knocks
 
Cons:
-Relatively exposed motors which generally end up getting hit once or twice
-It can be outweaponed by heavy weapon users such as Lock-nut and RED ALERT; rare but has happened.
-Whole thing's basically built on Aluminium extenders which are easy pickings should I get outweaponed.
 
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On a side note, apologies if any of what I post is a major klone; but like I said, I haven't been around for ages, so don't know what other bots are flying around, so don't bash me too hard. *hides* :P
 
And also I know DSL building here follows a degree of realism which I try to follow (not having things go through batteries or anything else that isn't possible IRL), but exactly how far? For example is eFFe'ing acceptable as long as the result confides with the realism rule? I know the NPC's aren't very realistic, but it seems everyone else does it so... meh. :P
 
 
- Jet

[FOTEPX]

Hey there, and welcome to GTM. You seem like a nice guy, and your bot if better than a lot of noob bots. Stick around, you'll get good in no time. First off, those wheel protectors aren't necessary. Remove them and add more spikes. Also, you have 2 too many ants, your bot can run just fine with 2.

About the motors; anything attached to the baseplate, multi-extenders, motors, half-sheets... Are indestructible. You heard me, cannot be broken. So don't worry about them. Also, you said you can be out-weaponed. Only way to beat that is to have more weapons.

You might also want to change to polycarb extenders. If your extenders are protected by razors well enough, they won't be easy pickings, will they? :P

Anyway, welcome, enjoy your stay, and I hope you have a great time.

[Scrap Daddy]

heeey welcome back dude.

weren't you making an AI pack way back when?..

[Jet-speed]

Thanks FOTEPX, I'll give removing the wheel protectors a go and see how it fairs; probably would do better as an AI that can actually drive rather than in my hands where I'm whizzing all over the place. :P
 
The ants I could remove, will give that a shot too and see if I can find something else to blow the weight on.
 
Thanks for the advice about the baseplate, but i'm a little more knowledgable than average I suppose in the sense that I already know. :P What I meant is when the NPC's take hits, they slow down, turning the pusher/rammer into a turtle with razor tips.
 
Poly carb extender I'll try also. You'd be surprised though, how fast I get de-weaponed by things like sledges bearing in mind that Razor's only have 400 or so HP; tempted to try Pointy's or Iron spikes tbh.
 
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Hai Scrap, thanks. ^^
 
Yeah I was, but a) for some reason I managed to lose the vast majority of it like an idiot, and b) back then I was a terrib-...MORE terrible stock builder than I am now, so tbh i'm not going to make an effort to get it out again. Although i'm looking at a DSL pack some time in the future assuming the new DSL which i've heard about isn't being released too soon; but really need to get back on form before then, specially nao with the likes of Nar AI. ^^
 
I did finish the stock AI pack though. :3

[Pwnator]

I did finish the stock AI pack though. :3

YAY

Also, by removing the two ants and downgrading the extenders, you can have top protection as well.

[Reier]

Oh yeahhhh can't wait to see more stuff dude

[Sparkey98]

Hey man, welcome back :D I hope you enjoy your time hating me :D

[Badnik96]

Jet-Speed!!

Aw man, welcome back. I heard of you before but it's a pleasure to meet you in person.

[Jet-speed]

Wells, based on your feedback, FOTEPX...
 

 
Dropped two ants, as well as the middle Alu skirt underneath to polycarb. Changed the extenders to poly, which allowed me 18 Iron's. Tried irons since I just didn't like how fast razor's were being ripped off, specially now i'm running Poly extenders.
 
Result? Looks less stealth bomber-y. ;<
Charged into Locknut and I didn't lose every one of my weapons! \o/ Actually managed to take the sledges off him, as well as RED ALERT, which is an improvement no doubt. Still don't like how open it is when some of the middle iron's are gone though; but at a weight limit so. :P
 
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OT: Welcome reception is welcome, thanks guiz. :3
 
@Sypher. Tbh man, i've never been able to hate. :P
 
@Badnik. Hiya, and thanks. ^^ Lol, was viewing some of the old topics and my name came up in one of the nostalgia ones. I was never great at building, but r0b0 said I was apparently a builder with potential, so I guess I had to come back. ;D

[Badnik96]

Iron's aren't the most damaging, I'd try large beater bars.

[FOTEPX]

Iron's aren't the most damaging, I'd try large beater bars.

Medium beaters with Small DSL's or Razors attached to the end of them does more damage and lasts longer.

[Jet-speed]

Tried both, and must say Medium Beaters + small DSL's turned out better than large beaters.
 
Gonna stick with the first, since I had some weight left over I managed to re-upgrade back to Alu too, which is a nice bonus. The damage increase from irons to Mediums and DSL teeth is stupidly high (I didn't know beaters and DSL's worked so well o.O) and the nice thing is even if the teeth drop off the beaters are still there to do damage/give me a 1500 hp shield.
 

 
Had tiny weight left over which I couldn't spend on another spike/battery etc, so I upgraded the skirts underneath from Alu to Tite; cuz I can. :3
 
 
EDIT:
 

 
And I still had weapons left? Am I seeing right? Beater bar/DSL teeth combo is awsum k.

[FOTEPX]

I tell people so, they just don't listen. Thanks for being the first to do so.

[Pwnator]

Duh. 175 kg > 120 kg.

But yeah, that is nice indeed.

[Somebody]

I remember I bugged you once on Youtube alooooooooong time ago (In a galaxy far away...)

Welcome back dude!

[Jet-speed]

Duh. 175 kg > 120 kg.

Heh, suppose so. :P
 
Anyway, generic LW HS complete with cheap flails. ;D
 

 
Armour: Plastic 3
Drive: Astroflights
Power: 3 Ants
Weapon motor: TW3MR
Weapon: Pretty obvious, OMG IT HAS DE FLAILZ.
 
I know some people hate flails, I iz sorry. ;<
 
Just thrown together in about 10 minutes, stupidly destructive (but then it's a flail spinner so hardly suprised). Got some leftover weight which in all honesty i'm not sure what to do with, was trying to think of a way of protecting the TW3 but it eluded me; then again the disc knockback is big enough to protect it anyway. The DSL teeth work surprisingly well, keeps things away from the motor but not out of reach of the flails. The skirts aren't really supposed to be wedges, they're primarily there for stability. Can...kind of right itself after a few seconds...sometimes. It's more just pot luck.
 
The flails go 180, but don't intersect the DSL teeth so realism is fine, apart from a tiny issue with the hinge/axle things ever so slightly clipping the chassis. The razors are angled with the point up so they never touch the chassis.
 
/awaits the flail/bad building skill related insults. :P
 
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OT: Hai Somebody! :D
 
Yeah I remember, had alot of stuffs going on IRL then; but back nao, nice to see you again. :P

[Pwnator]

If you want stability, use static stuff. Try 80cm tite angled sheets, and probably a shell panel somewhere under the bot for underside and motor protection.

[Jet-speed]

Thanks for teh input Pwn, but i'mma have to remake it. It gyrodances way too much to be fair, even if it does just KO bots by landing on them and flailing them to death. :P

[The Ounce]

Hey, nice to see you back jet-speed!   

I recommend attaching the drive motors directly to multi-extenders, instead of that weird setup you've got there.

[Jet-speed]

Hai Ounce. o/
 
Since you posted after with feedback i'll just post here instead of editing the previous. :P
 

 
Cendrillon II, pretty much the same drive/power/weapon wise. However, and it's funny Ounce, I read your ME comment after uploading this. :P Different drive/extender set up made all the difference, nao it doesn't Gyro-dance when it turns, and is pretty stable...till it's flipped. >.<
 
The ME extender work isn't pretty, but my eyes are tired and rotating them the right amount isn't working for me right nao, so I just took the lazy route. :3