Stacking outside the chassis

[J]

I don't see how exostacking is "overpowered" at all.

Wait, are we going to apply some sort of list of techniques that are "overpowered"?

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HP Z-Teks with rubber wheels

Limited to 2:
2 bupts with 1 engine off each bluebird

No longer limited:
The use of plastic

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[Sparkey98]

IMVHO bots like Mike's, with the motor sticking out, should be allowed. The part is visible in battle, still (sorta) takes damage, and doesn't really make an inpenetrable shield. A popup or wammer could tear it apart pretty easily.

What should be illegalized, though, are things like Narmour, using baseplate parts to create an unbreakable shield.

RW2 will allow exostacking to a point, similar to my BFE rule.

Here's the question. If we can use narmour in DSL, why not Caster armour?

Caster armour is realistic anyways, I could armour a sting bot in caster wheels, exept that's ghey.

[Pwnator]

So, can you exactly explain how you can take off a 100kg+ hammers in a finite amount of hits but not 24kg worth of caster armor?

[Sparkey98]

*that's because it's on the baseplate. Next we're gonna have motor armour, and any other baseplate part armour.

[Pwnator]

Caster armour is realistic anyways

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Heck, I'm already staying away from halfsheet attachements for that same reason.


Parts of motors showing off is a bit touchy for me. I don't really like its ability to absorb damage, which is why I tend to attach these things to places opponents rarely reach. If I ever used baseplate armor to my advantage, I usually put some kind of Achilles' heel on it just to be fair.

[J]

Next we're gonna have motor armour, and any other baseplate part armour.

Fatboy Tire-Armor

[JoeBlo]

those tires / tyres (where ever your from) arnt baseplate mountable 

[J]

those tires / tyres (where ever your from) arnt baseplate mountable 

True
But those axle mounts only have a weight of like 3.

[freeziez]

those tires / tyres (where ever your from) arnt baseplate mountable 

True
But those axle mounts only have a weight of like 3.

?

No, they weigh 4.5 kg. or something like that.

[JoeBlo]

But those axle mounts only have a weight of like 3.

then the wheels will break off like anything else, the axles on the other hand will be invincible

[J]

But those axle mounts only have a weight of like 3.

then the wheels will break off like anything else, the axles on the other hand will be invincible

But this topic has proven that axles are "illegal".
So I guess we need to find some other weird alternative.

[G.K.]

R0B0: IIRC, 123 said he was a Chinese-American who got US citizenship a few years back.

[NFX]

Going back to Pwnator's point, I think that motors should be aloowed to be exostacked if they're actually doing something, like driving the bot. Most bots already put NPC Fasts halfway out the back of the chassis, and when they get hit, the bot starts slowing down, so you lose out on that. But if there's just random motors sticking out with nothing attached to them, then that's unrealistic. Motor's aren't used as armour at all.

Halfsheets on the baseplate, in my experience, don't offer that great a deal of protection. I really only use them when I'm wanting to perhaps build off of them.

And J, can you actually exostack axle mounts? I've never been able to do that.

[Somebody]

Spastic_OCD, Madiaba entered it in GUMBA


Good example of motor protection. This is legal because it automatically stacks. I think that exostacking a normal motor like this should be legal, but exostacking batteries, etc. should be illegal.

[NFX]

Exostacking motors should be legal, because it's a perfectly viable idea IRL. Bots like Onslaught and Sumpthing have motors "exostacked"

[freeziez]

And most times, without even trying, I can exostack a blue control board.

[G.K.]

Ugh...

No, blue CBs have a smaller collision mesh, so fit in the chassis.

[NFX]

Ugh...

No, blue CBs have a smaller collision mesh, so fit in the chassis.

I have noticed that. Sometimes you can see it poking out of the chassis just a little bit.
 
Also the Battlepacks, if you mount them vertically, you get the wires sticking out of the top. Which is kinda annoying, tbh.

[Somebody]

Yeah the wires are a nice touch at first, but with 20 of them sticking out of the top of a chassis, it looks terrible.

[JoeBlo]

exo-stacking anything in the power tab should be outlawed.. if you did it IRL you will find your robot with no power and your batteries in pieces scattered along the floor, infact (I will need backup from a real roboteer, maybe SKBT) Batts that are hanging out on the robot can cause matches to end ? or something along those lines.. I can vaguely recall cease being called when Hypnodisc "exostacked" another robots battery for them :P

The blue CB can naturally be placed in a smaller area then its size but this can always be tweaked like the skirt hinge I plan to finish some time :P

motors can be outside the chassis (though this is being fixed for DSL 3, but for DSL 2 I am fine with it, since IRL robots arnt confined to a shape to place parts in

speaking of tweaking the base mountable extenders shoudl be made visible too (like the base-plate anchor) again I can do this sometime :P