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What do you think of RA3 now?

Brilliant, best game going
5 (5.1%)
It's alright, could do with some polish
21 (21.2%)
It's not good
27 (27.3%)
It's a broken mess
46 (46.5%)

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1400 on: May 26, 2016, 03:53:17 PM »
In the second match your battery died - there's no steady decline like in the RA2, when you're out of power, you're dead.

DSL2.2 has a system like that, actually.

Didn't know that - RA2 in general, then.




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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1401 on: May 26, 2016, 03:55:56 PM »
Yeah I noticed the chassis collision is messed up. I bet it's an easy fix though!

Game needs a lot of work.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1402 on: May 26, 2016, 03:56:33 PM »
OK, I got a bot to work quite well with skid steering and 4 z-tecs. I think the trick is to keep the z-tecs relatively far apart and they must be TOTALLY level, else some wheels won't touch the ground, and you have no leeway like you had in RA2.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1403 on: May 26, 2016, 03:58:42 PM »
By now the devs know they have to fix more than just the multiplayer. let's just wait for a post that might comes later today

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1404 on: May 26, 2016, 04:00:40 PM »
Yeah I noticed the chassis collision is messed up. I bet it's an easy fix though!

Game needs a lot of work.

It unfortunately isn't that easy of a fix as far as I know. Unity 5 (or 4) does not natively support concave rigid bodies. I assumed the team had figured out a system to deal with this, but clearly they haven't.

To illustrate- This bot does not tip over, and it is interpreted as a giant cube. The same width on the bottom as it is on the top.


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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1405 on: May 26, 2016, 04:01:52 PM »
the problem is with unity? interesting.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1406 on: May 26, 2016, 04:03:13 PM »
Yeah I noticed the chassis collision is messed up. I bet it's an easy fix though!

It's certainly above my knowledge with Unity (one undergrad project). If they're rendering chassis as meshes on the fly, then surely a meshcollider would work, and they'd never have to touch a boxcollider? But you'd have to assume it wouldn't be so easy.




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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1407 on: May 26, 2016, 04:05:59 PM »
This makes me sad. RA1 was a disappointment, but it was still a pretty fun game. No, you couldn't build anything that resembled a real Battlebot, but it was easy to work with and had its own set of challenges. And skinning was super easy!


When the demo came along showcasing RA1 with a physics engine (followed shortly by the RA2 demo featuring Nightmare), I was so excited. Then as more was revealed about RA2, the hype continued to build. We can create our own weapons and design our own chassis? "Forklifts" are finally a reality? Cool!


RA2 came out, and although it had its flaws, it did pretty much everything it needed to do. The user experience improved upon the original game in almost every way.


Now I see screengrabs and twitch streams of this game and feel disappointed. What was improved over RA2? The new chassis design system looks neat, but it's horribly broken if the chassis can intersect with itself and wedges don't work. The component system looks virtually unchanged. Weight classes have disappeared, though this might be so that it fits more in line with the current Battlebots.


If they fix the game, I'll buy it. The arena designs look great. Until then, it's not worth installing Windows to give it a try.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1408 on: May 26, 2016, 04:10:31 PM »
This is... heartbreaking. If Jules' video is anything to go by, the game is quite literally worse than stock RA2.

Damn.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1409 on: May 26, 2016, 04:11:04 PM »
im not going to refund it, im going to wait a bit and see what they do. its tough waiting that long for this honestly.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1410 on: May 26, 2016, 04:14:46 PM »
It has more to do with PhysX than Unity, but basically, as it works, an object with a rigid body (basically moving physics) has to be convex. There are ways to program around this, for example. Generating multiple colliders that act as one.
These devs clearly didn't even care to try.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1411 on: May 26, 2016, 04:14:56 PM »
This is... heartbreaking. If Jules' video is anything to go by, the game is quite literally worse than stock RA2.

Damn.

As far as I've played, it is worse than Robot Arena 1.

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1412 on: May 26, 2016, 04:17:04 PM »
I can't really watch in high quality on my phone, is there a robot called Inky in the game?

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1413 on: May 26, 2016, 04:21:29 PM »
Indeed there is Kurt.

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1414 on: May 26, 2016, 04:27:25 PM »
Indeed there is Kurt.
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1415 on: May 26, 2016, 04:29:53 PM »
Also noticed one of the tournaments is called GTM Brawl or something similar
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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1416 on: May 26, 2016, 04:32:07 PM »
So from I can gather RA3 isn't good. Looks like its wait and see territory for me then.

And I was kinda looking forward to hearing more postivity than this. The game will get better, just got be optimistic.

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1417 on: May 26, 2016, 04:34:32 PM »
is this some kind of sick joke lmao

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1418 on: May 26, 2016, 04:39:44 PM »
Ouch. From what I've heard thus far this game isn't very good. Maybe Andy really did make it
I think after hearing this negative feedback they'll take this a little more seriously. I still have hope they can fix some of the more broken features. Maybe then I'll buy it.

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Re: Robot Arena 3!
« Reply #1419 on: May 26, 2016, 04:41:56 PM »
As far as I've played, it is worse than Robot Arena 1.

...god help us.

What's worse is that it seems like the problems lie in the fundamental mechanics of the game—mods won't be able to rescue it. I hope that the developers are able to address these issues, but I'm not holding my breath.
Any comments would be appreciated. :D