New Glitch - Hax Mode

[LiNcK]

This glitch can GREATLY benefit robot building, In DSL atleast... With this you can get rid of some ridiculously big meshes & just paste everything thightly together without stacking but still as close as possible.

When I opened this topic & Read about it the first thing that came to mind was this problem Ive had:



Sometimes stuff clearly fits in a chassis or stuff COULD go through eachother (Like maybe making a hole in the chassis for a razor tip to go through or making it go through a static tit sheet) but RA2 wont let you.
With this glitch we could make such things possible, And for DSL atleast it would be VERY helpful & Innovative...
Stock though, Were stacking is allowed I see the problem but we can still regulate it.


Heck, This might get me back into RA2 o.O
Bot building would be ALOT easier if you dont have to worry about meshes, If it is accepted as realistic, It can be done.
I could pasted those drives closer to eachother... I could make stuff go through those rings they have (Look at pic above) if accepted... (In real like if thats just make I would just saw it off)
Such things could make bots more efficient & Just awesome.


Thinking about it now makes me wanna go back to the botlab & Start building with it :D

[J]

So... LiNcK knows this trick? How nice.

Thinking about it now makes me wanna go back to the botlab & Start building with it :D

Sage already demonstrated how ridiculous it can get.
TBH, it seems like fun.

[R0B0SH4RK]

Doesn't look like it. I think he just wants to get his ant batteries closer to the burst motors, but he can't so he has to stack them.

[123savethewhales]

I think he's trying to say that it's better to stack batteries into the motor collision mesh, than into each other.

I disagree, I think chassis are small enough on DSL as is.  We don't need anymore collision bypass to save that one quarter square.  I also fail to see anything exciting coming out of it since many bots in DSL are already build with 1x1.5 chassis.

Besides, ants are pretty easy to stack into other mesh even without a new glitch.  It wasn't used because it was regarded as cheating.

[090901]

MUST FIGURE OUT WHICH MOTOR MADE THAT NOISE RIGHT BEFORE IT WAS ACTIVATED.

[System32]

DERPA HERP

You know DSL 3 will nerf that sort of component placement?






Foul language removed, user warned!

[Meganerdbomb]

And a good thing too. DSL is practically the same as stock ATM.
Anyway we're getting off the subject, which is that Scrap and Sage are rotten bastards for telling us about this without revealing how to do it!

[LiNcK]

So... LiNcK knows this trick? How nice.

Thinking about it now makes me wanna go back to the botlab & Start building with it :D

Sage already demonstrated how ridiculous it can get.
TBH, it seems like fun.

Nahh, IDK it... Stacking ants like that couldent be easier :P
And I dont plan to use it to stack stuff if it gets released, Just to make realistic bots using as little space as possible... But still realistic, Like my ants prob up there.
Couldent use that bot in a tourney coz it was "Unrealistic" but normally the ants WOULD fit if it wasnt for the HUGE meshes of the BSG... Anyways, Hax Mode could fix that prob & many others. Just like it could be used to ruin Clash Cubes by stacking everything together:P

[J]

Anyway we're getting off the subject, which is that Scrap and Sage are rotten bastards for telling us about this without revealing how to do it!

Basically Sage and Scrap have copies of Base-Set Charazard, and were all trying to trade out Base-Set Poliwhirls for it.
........
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

[Sage]

Anyway we're getting off the subject, which is that Scrap and Sage are rotten bastards for telling us about this without revealing how to do it!

Basically Sage and Scrap have copies of Base-Set Charazard, and were all trying to trade out Base-Set Poliwhirls for it.
........
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

Maybe if you were talking about the game people would understand... but honestly no one plays the card game.

[Somebody]

Hey guys, make sure we don't piss off Sage or he'll run away and we'll never get the glitch!

Yes that is sage

[R0B0SH4RK]

Haha, I remember that video xD

[System32]

If this is what you believe is happening right now, than you're far more cynical then I've ever given you credit for. The "social circle" you're currently referring to consists of the two people who figured the glitch out, no more.

You are right, but as someone pointed out, Scrap discovered it. Not only that, Click, JoeBlo and Trov have a possibility of being included, making it a "social pentagon". Finally, you are asking for info on how to do it to curb your skepticism, making it a "social hexagon".
 

And as far as I can tell, Sage and Scrap are spiting no one, especially not you.

If preventing newer members and other members from utilizing a glitch that allows them to be as good as (and later, possibly better) themselves isn't spiteful, It's at least hypocritical considering all the advice they've given with other glitches and building techniques.
 

"What's happening right now" isn't keeping Hax mode a secret to spite members, "what's happening right now" isn't "purely disgusting,"

Yes it is, by proxy. Apart from ACAMS, (Who is just adding random info for people to think about) and some other guy who is derping, all of the people telling scrap and Sage to keep Hax Mode locked away from the public are using variants of this sentence: "Good job Sage and scrap! Keep it away from the newbs!"
 

"what's happening right now" is a bunch of guys trying to decide where we go from here, and ultimately, Scrap and Sage are entitled to do as they please with their discovery. They can release it to the public, or they can lock it away and make sure it never sees the light of day again.

Do you know how insane this sounds to me? If we weren't talking about elitism I'd think we were having an argument over anti-intellectualism.
 

It doesn't effect either of us or anyone on this forum.

21 pages in two days say something else.

You still haven't replied.

[Sage]

System, no matter what your logic is we'll release it whenever we want to. Scrap found it. There's no law saying he has to share his secrets. In fact he should be able to use this in building every bot he makes, but he doesn't because he knows people will rage. It's actually unfair to Scrap to have this banned in tournaments just because only a few people know it. It's like not letting the best chess player in the world into a tournament simply because he's smarter than everyone else.

[Enigm@]

i.e., u jelly, GTM?

[System32]

lol at sage rage.

[Urjak]

In fact he should be able to use this in building every bot he makes, but he doesn't because he knows people will rage. It's actually unfair to Scrap to have this banned in tournaments just because only a few people know it.

Alright, now this post really got me. You guy's (you and Scrap) had said previously that this glitch would be unreleased because it would "ruin stock building" and now you're saying it is unfair to Scrap to have this glitch banned? Do you know how crazy that sounds? You're tearing down your only argument for keeping this glitch secret. The reason people want it banned is because it is a cheaty way of building (I am not sold on whether this is even true), not because it is unreleased.

[Sage]

In fact he should be able to use this in building every bot he makes, but he doesn't because he knows people will rage. It's actually unfair to Scrap to have this banned in tournaments just because only a few people know it.

Alright, now this post really got me. You guy's (you and Scrap) had said previously that this glitch would be unreleased because it would "ruin stock building" and now you're saying it is unfair to Scrap to have this glitch banned? Do you know how crazy that sounds? You're tearing down your only argument for keeping this glitch secret. The reason people want it banned is because it is a cheaty way of building (I am not sold on whether this is even true), not because it is unreleased.

First I said it would ruin stock, you guys didn't agree. Okay, fine, it won't ruin stock. Thus the secondary argument that it's unfair to us that it be banned just because you guys don't know how to do it. It's not a cheaty way of building. It's done completely in-game, just like any other glitch. Go back 5 years and show someone snapper loading, they'll think you're a witch and burn you at the stake.

Also, that's not the only reason we haven't released it yet, nor is it really even the main one. It's Scrap's to release. Why the should he have to divulge his secrets?

[Skiitzzox220]

lol at sage rage.

Am I the only one who thinks that sounds really, really awesome

[Urjak]

First I said it would ruin stock, you guys didn't agree. Okay, fine, it won't ruin stock. Thus the secondary argument that it's unfair to us that it be banned just because you guys don't know how to do it. It's not a cheaty way of building. It's done completely in-game, just like any other glitch. Go back 5 years and show someone snapper loading, they'll think you're a witch and burn you at the stake.

Also, that's not the only reason we haven't released it yet, nor is it really even the main one. It's Scrap's to release. Why the should he have to divulge his secrets?

Well alright, as long as you don't hold by the "ruining stock" argument. However, I don't think people here are saying it should be banned because no one knows how to do it, they are saying it should be banned because it allows you to stack practically anything. This is the exact same reason that BFE and AAM are banned, because the allow for building bots that do not fit the communities expectations. We could allow these bots, like the community probably first did when deciding whether stacking should be allowed, or we could forbid them. Either way, I don't think it is secrecy that makes people want the glitch banned.