New Glitch - Hax Mode

[J]

I vote that LiNck is the only person that made complete sense here at this point.

Because we all know Sage would try and ninja his way into "sneaking" a few hax-glitches into bots he entered in tournaments and junk.
But it would be all in good humor, really.

We could call it the Garv Glitch, Sparkle Stacking and FAP mode respectively.

Methinks that was on purpose.

[Urjak]

I vote that LiNck is the only person that made complete sense here at this point.

Sense making I'm complete!


Stupid N00bish joke aside, what LiNck just posted sums up my viewpoint (and probably several other members').

[Meganerdbomb]

We could call it the Garv Glitch, Sparkle Stacking and FAP mode respectively.

Methinks that was on purpose.

Of course it was. Just who the do you think I am?

If Jonzu discovers it, we'll call it the Super Furry Dawn Glitch. If I discover it, I'll release it as Pinkie Pie Oatmeal Mode.

......BRB going to discover new glitch.......

[R0B0SH4RK]

But it's entirely possible that someone could make a bot with a normal sized chassis and not-floating components that looks like they used hax mode, but they used BFE to do it. Hell, that's what I'd do if I were so inclined (and knew how to BFE). So, common sense should consequently tell you "I have no idea whether this bot was built using BFE of Hax mode." This point should make a lot of sense if you're understanding what I'm writing. But hey, we're on the internet. Misunderstandings are easy :3

I am not saying they are easy to tell apart, I am saying that all we have to do is outlaw both Hax Mode and BFE and the whole problem goes away. I can't think of a situation where being able to tell the difference between the two of them would be of much importance.

Funny, I've been saying the same thing too. Although the dialogue between you and I has never been what should happen, but the consequences of a or b happening. Oh well.
 
 
@MNB: It took two guys who have logged unholy amounts of hours in the stock game eight years to finally figure it out and release that it's possible. It's entirely possible that it takes years for others to figure it out too, and somebody else may not figure it out at all. For the whole community knowing how to enter hax mode, it may be now or never. We just don't know.

[Meganerdbomb]

But it's entirely possible that someone could make a bot with a normal sized chassis and not-floating components that looks like they used hax mode, but they used BFE to do it. Hell, that's what I'd do if I were so inclined (and knew how to BFE). So, common sense should consequently tell you "I have no idea whether this bot was built using BFE of Hax mode." This point should make a lot of sense if you're understanding what I'm writing. But hey, we're on the internet. Misunderstandings are easy :3

I am not saying they are easy to tell apart, I am saying that all we have to do is outlaw both Hax Mode and BFE and the whole problem goes away. I can't think of a situation where being able to tell the difference between the two of them would be of much importance.

Funny, I've been saying the same thing too. Although the dialogue between you and I has never been what should happen, but the consequences of a or b happening. Oh well.
 
 
@MNB: It took two guys who have logged unholy amounts of hours in the stock game eight years to finally figure it out and release that it's possible. It's entirely possible that it takes years for others to figure it out too, and somebody else may not figure it out at all. For the whole community knowing how to enter hax mode, it may be now or never. We just don't know.

Ahh, but once they realized it was possible, how long did it actually take them to figure out how to replicate it? I don't think any of the people I mentioned will discover it though. My money's on Vertigo or Joe Blo.

[Enigm@]

  this thread.

[R0B0SH4RK]

@MNB: Once they realized it was possible, it took them three years. Not months or weeks or days. Years.

[123savethewhales]

I vote that LiNck is the only person that made complete sense here at this point.

Sense making I'm complete!

Stupid N00bish joke aside, what LiNck just posted sums up my viewpoint (and probably several other members').

Well it does, it's just he put it in a very compact and complete way.  You don't have to read through 5 or 6 pages to get the whole thing.

Now, naturally this also means I agree with him, otherwise I will argue it makes no sense and try to break it apart word by word.

But it's entirely possible that someone could make a bot with a normal sized chassis and not-floating components that looks like they used hax mode, but they used BFE to do it. Hell, that's what I'd do if I were so inclined (and knew how to BFE). So, common sense should consequently tell you "I have no idea whether this bot was built using BFE of Hax mode." This point should make a lot of sense if you're understanding what I'm writing. But hey, we're on the internet. Misunderstandings are easy :3

I am not saying they are easy to tell apart, I am saying that all we have to do is outlaw both Hax Mode and BFE and the whole problem goes away. I can't think of a situation where being able to tell the difference between the two of them would be of much importance.

Funny, I've been saying the same thing too. Although the dialogue between you and I has never been what should happen, but the consequences of a or b happening. Oh well.
 
 
@MNB: It took two guys who have logged unholy amounts of hours in the stock game eight years to finally figure it out and release that it's possible. It's entirely possible that it takes years for others to figure it out too, and somebody else may not figure it out at all. For the whole community knowing how to enter hax mode, it may be now or never. We just don't know.

Ahh, but once they realized it was possible, how long did it actually take them to figure out how to replicate it? I don't think any of the people I mentioned will discover it though. My money's on Vertigo or Joe Blo.

Highly doubt it.  This is not something a trial and error test can verify.  You can't find it through rational systematic testing, it almost requires an accident.

Otherwise I would have found it by now.

[Sage]

@MNB: Once they realized it was possible, it took them three years. Not months or weeks or days. Years.

I thought you didn't think it was true?

[Enigm@]

I agree with S32 on this.
Also, I don't believe this is the doom of stock. I can't stack for shiznit, and this I think would be handy for people like me who can't stack.

[Meganerdbomb]

Actually, reading back, it was JUST Scrap who discovered it. Sage only knows because Scrap taught him. Anyway, I really doubt I'd use this even if it was released, so I'll just GTFO now.

[Urjak]

@MNB: Once they realized it was possible, it took them three years. Not months or weeks or days. Years.

This is the sad part. In keeping it secret, they are forcing other members to go back and do possibly months (or even years apparently) to get to the same level of progress that would be achieved if Sage and Scrap shared their knowledge. That is how progress happens, people put time and effort into something and then share the fruits of their labor so that other members can build off of it instead of working from the ground up.

[Enigm@]

Honestly, it's just not worth it for a game like RA2.
I have to give Scarp credit, I don't have that kinda perseverance.

[123savethewhales]

@MNB: Once they realized it was possible, it took them three years. Not months or weeks or days. Years.

This is the sad part. In keeping it secret, they are forcing other members to go back and do possibly months (or even years apparently) to get to the same level of progress that would be achieved if Sage and Scrap shared their knowledge. That is how progress happens, people put time and effort into something and then share the fruits of their labor so that other members can build off of it instead of working from the ground up.

Accidents doesn't happen just because you are actively trying to test for it.  You won't find it even if you try.  After all, what can you try besides play more and hope to bump into it?

[R0B0SH4RK]

@MNB: Once they realized it was possible, it took them three years. Not months or weeks or days. Years.

I thought you didn't think it was true?

Skepticism =/= denial, my friend.
 
And I've been talking from both sides of the release it/don't release it argument an awful lot here. For someone that's fairly indefferent as to what you guys decide to do, I've got myself quite involved.
 
I still can't get over the fact that your voice sounds JUST LIKE someone I know.

[Urjak]

Accidents doesn't happen just because you are actively trying to test for it.  You won't find it even if you try.  After all, what can you try besides play more and hope to bump into it?

Well... taking that more pessimistic view, this could be one of the only real chances that this glitch will be added to the banks of RA2 knowledge.

[Sage]

I still can't get over the fact that your voice sounds JUST LIKE someone I know.

maybe I am O:

[TriTon]

From the videos, the glitch looks as if everything in the game doesn't have a collision mesh. Is that right?

[G.K.]

...What videos were you watching?

[TriTon]

...What videos were you watching?

The ones Sage put up showing us the glitch...?