Author Topic: Mythbusters: RA2 Edition (Read 29414 times)

R0B0SH4RK · « **Reply #60 on:** February 05, 2009, 12:17:16 AM »

Thank you CB. This has now justified hours of work tweaking my wedges ever so slightly.

Madiaba · « **Reply #61 on:** February 05, 2009, 12:38:39 AM »

Thanks, CB. Cool tests. Don't know where you find the time.

philetbabe · « **Reply #62 on:** February 05, 2009, 02:23:22 AM »

Nice CB, Thank's

somestrangeguy · « **Reply #63 on:** February 05, 2009, 10:25:43 AM »

Nice stuff again CB, but one thing you have forgot to test with the wedges is: Is it better to have the wedge upside down than the way you have used them so far?

System32 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 05, 2009, 10:26:40 AM »

Yeah, that was kinda steep.

infiniteinertia · « **Reply #65 on:** May 08, 2009, 10:34:37 PM »

<3 Thanks CB.

russian roulette · « **Reply #66 on:** May 14, 2009, 06:08:48 PM »

id like to see if a chained red bird and reversable angle moter are really faster than a high powered z tek

Naryar · « **Reply #67 on:** May 14, 2009, 06:15:59 PM »

Why don't you try seeing that by yourself ?

roboman2444 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 14, 2009, 06:16:10 PM »

they are. I cloned Redbird of Unhappiness and it is faster than a hpz that is not snapper enhanced.

System32 · « **Reply #69 on:** May 15, 2009, 08:12:02 AM »

I think that concussion one isn't really done good. What about speed? or against rubber and metal components?

R1885 · « **Reply #70 on:** July 01, 2009, 05:42:52 PM »

I decided to do some necromancy and bring the thread from the grave. And for one of the most discussed topics in RA2, what makes a good wedge? Clicks tested for pressure, but I want to test this, does wedges extenders as a anchor for armor make it more wedgey? To test this, I made two identical bots:
Bot A has its snow plows on base plate anchors.

Bot B has its snow plows on its wedge extenders.

Like Click, I used the Small arena for testing, this is how the first match went:

The results were overwhelming. Bot A got under Bot B 100% of the time. There is some cases were its uncertain who got under who, Bot A clearly got under bot B a majority of the matches.
The lesson is clear, use wedge extenders as armor mounts, and your wedges will suffer.
Myth Busted.

Reier · « **Reply #71 on:** July 01, 2009, 05:44:59 PM »

Not necessarily. I mean bot B's plows are higher and farther back than A's.

The Ounce · « **Reply #72 on:** July 01, 2009, 05:45:27 PM »

This is because of my showcase isn't it?

R1885 · « **Reply #73 on:** July 01, 2009, 05:46:48 PM »

Yes in fact.

Sage · « **Reply #74 on:** July 01, 2009, 05:49:30 PM »

Quote from: R1885;48023

I decided to do some necromancy and bring the thread from the grave. And for one of the most discussed topics in RA2, what makes a good wedge? Clicks tested for pressure, but I want to test this, does wedges extenders as a anchor for armor make it more wedgey? To test this, I made to identical bots:
Bot A has its snow plows on base plate anchors.

Bot B has its snow plows on its wedge extenders.

Like Click, I used the Small arena for testing, this is how the first match went:

The results were overwhelming. Bot A got under Bot B 100% of the time. There is some cases were its uncertain who got under who, Bot A clearly got under bot B a majority of the matches.
The lesson is clear, use wedge extenders as armor mounts, and your wedges will suffer.
Myth Busted.

Sorry mate, but there are some variables you didn't take into account. For one, having two baseplate anchors in the front of your chassis with plows attached to them adds (in this case) 44 kgs. Weight attached to the chassis will dramatically increase wedge effectiveness... which is why bots with castor fronts have such good wedges most of the time.

The second thing is that the plows are not exactly in the same place.

What you really tested was:

"Will a bot with 44kgs on the front end of the chassis get under a bot with 40kgs on the wedge, and with the weight shifted farther back?"

Perhaps try a test with weight on the wedges and no weight on the wedges, see what gets under what. even then, it might not be fair.

R1885 · « **Reply #75 on:** July 01, 2009, 05:53:46 PM »

Quote from: Sage;48027

For one, having two baseplate anchors in the front of your chassis with plows attached to them adds (in this case) 44 kgs. Weight attached to the chassis will dramatically increase wedge effectiveness... which is why bots with castor fronts have such good wedges most of the time.

I took that into account, and left the baseplate anchors on Bot B. Both bots weigh the same in the front.

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The second thing is that the plows are not exactly in the same place.

I'm not sure if it matters.

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Perhaps try a test with weight on the wedges and no weight on the wedges, see what gets under what. even then, it might not be fair.

I might do that.

Reier · « **Reply #76 on:** July 01, 2009, 05:55:44 PM »

Something else. Are the meshes lined up on both?

The Ounce · « **Reply #77 on:** July 01, 2009, 06:01:16 PM »

you also mislabeled the test bots

R1885 · « **Reply #78 on:** July 01, 2009, 06:02:05 PM »

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you also mislabeled the test bots

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The Ounce · « **Reply #79 on:** July 01, 2009, 06:04:09 PM »

my mistake, I was looking at them the wrong way.