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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2010, 03:48:29 PM »
Sparkles- when the bots you keep talking about were "new, crazy desin" you were...4 and not around. Stop acting like you were.

S32- A castor will do just as good as a ballast and not waste weight.

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2010, 03:49:51 PM »
Sparkles- when the bots you keep talking about were "new, crazy desin" you were...4 and not around. Stop acting like you were.

S32- A castor will do just as good as a ballast and not waste weight.

Castors are unweildy, and can ruin a wedge if used improperly.
 
Heh, Debate thread?
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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2010, 03:55:14 PM »
 
Sparkles- when the bots you keep talking about were "new, crazy desin" you were...4 and not around. Stop acting like you were.

S32- A castor will do just as good as a ballast and not waste weight.

dude, I've studied RA2, the wiki, starcore, TDS, GTM, showcases, and every other possible thing since '07, only reasontly have I been able to get the game
 
I know who hundreds of bots are going all the way back to '03

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2010, 04:24:55 PM »
In response to Jack's VS.


 
The green arrow is the *Push* of the VS, which is greater than *chassis force*. This weakens the wedge (Shown as yellow arrows) and puts pressure on the rear (Red circle).

Solution? Ballasts, and lighter main weapon. Less *Push* created, and more weight pinning the front to the ground.
 
Protip: VS weapon weight in total must not weigh the same or more than the bot, for a good wedge. (Motors don't count.)

We need a physics of RA2 tutorial...

Thanks for the tips and visual. Modifying this bot is going to be interesting... I have some ideas though.

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2010, 04:43:56 PM »
Sparkles- when the bots you keep talking about were "new, crazy desin" you were...4 and not around. Stop acting like you were.

S32- A castor will do just as good as a ballast and not waste weight.

Castors are unweildy, and can ruin a wedge if used improperly.
 
Heh, Debate thread?

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2010, 09:52:11 PM »
I was actually going to post these in my showcase, but then I saw this thread.


Failbot parade ahead!


#1 - Stinger HW.  I made this bot when I first saw the Stock's Revenge tournament, before the Realistic Rule and the same-type rule were put in place.  Obviously, it's made with Stinger's chassis.  It has double-strength steel armor and a very good wedge, but its effectiveness ends there.  There's a reason every other good juggler in existence has double wedges--it's a lot easier to keep the other bot from slipping to the side off your weapons.



#2 - Super Downfall.  HW version of Downfall (full body hammer), made with the same chassis.  This one SHOULD be good.  It looks really good.  But there are two critical problems.  One, the wedges fail.  It can barely get under a chassis wedge.  And two, its HS-trapping ability is strangely lacking.  Even with 8 plows, two samurai swords, and four blades for front armor, most HS's tear it to pieces.  Dunno where to go with this design.

#3 - Drumblebee 6.  I simultaneously attempted to give Drumblebee 4WD, and mounted the motors inside the drum in order to protect them.  Problem: it's highly unstable, and as a result the wedge is worthless.  Eventually I'll try the same drum setup on the old 2WD design and see if it works better.

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2010, 02:04:18 AM »
My tournament bringing new ideas to you are they click?
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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2010, 03:50:00 AM »
There's a reason every other good juggler in existence has double wedges--it's a lot easier to keep the other bot from slipping to the side off your weapons.

I challenge that. Night Horror, i choose you !

(I agree it could be better though :P)

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2010, 07:44:32 AM »
here is the biggest fail on the planet
death blender

GARBLEEEE

 

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2010, 07:48:47 AM »
Both of these designs are common (you just used different weapons). How about something a little more unique? :D
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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2010, 01:06:59 AM »
Sparkey, the purpose of this thread is to post innovative designs that have promise in order for other builders to gain inspiration, not to post your biggest fails.

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2010, 01:51:48 PM »
I've never seen eather design in my life, sorry
I've seen one starcore bot like the bottom one, but it was diferent and better
 
I still think my jugler/gut ripper/ rupter is a good Idea :\

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2010, 02:16:21 PM »
Maybe, but to rupt you need to use a DDT and a 60cm extender's side connection point.
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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2010, 07:19:13 PM »
My thing



I haven't seen this design done that much in stock. Works well, but it could be done better IMO.

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2010, 08:06:27 PM »
Drumblebee juggler? Hmm... Interesting!

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #55 on: January 30, 2010, 11:04:14 AM »
My thing

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I haven't seen this design done that much in stock. Works well, but it could be done better IMO.

How did you get the HPZs on the Snappers like that? I didn't think that was even possible even with effing.

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2010, 11:05:01 AM »

How did you get the HPZs on the Snappers like that? I didn't think that was even possible even with effing.

Axle SNAPPER loading :P

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2010, 11:10:26 AM »

How did you get the HPZs on the Snappers like that? I didn't think that was even possible even with effing.

Axle loading :P

Thanks man. Never tried it like that. Now I know.

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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2010, 11:11:19 AM »
No, that would be Snapper loading Nary.
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Re: Inspiration Via Prototypes
« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2010, 11:22:00 AM »
... Goddamn typo !!! I was thinking snapper but i wrote axle :P