Author Topic: DSL = glitchy? (Read 5958 times)

Cougar · « **on:** March 17, 2010, 09:12:47 AM »

I'm trying to use DSL for the first time, and I'm working on my second design which failed more than my first.

My first design was a LW drum with a skirt, problem being that with the skirt attached the screen and bot would vibrate/shake like there is no tomorrow while in game, and the skirt would "Disappear" into the floor. I did set the start/finish to the same spot.

Second design is a HW drum, which while testing when the motor starts up and I lightly press a key to turn the robot will "float" onto its side and slowly spin....

Is it really that glitchy?

Pwnator · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2010, 09:14:45 AM »

Show us some screenies and we could probably solve your problem. :D

Cougar · « **Reply #2 on:** March 17, 2010, 09:42:50 AM »

Thats the LW, it shakes without the drums spinning, no change then are on.

That is the HW, I can full lock turn about 45° before it does it's floaty thing.

Thanks :D

Pwnator · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2010, 09:48:05 AM »

For the LW drum, it vibrates like

because of the springy skirt hinge. I'm gonna guess that using a metal hinge will also make it vibrate, just to a lesser extent.

As for the HW, I don't know about the 'floaty' thing. XD

JoeBlo · « **Reply #4 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:02:41 AM »

the HW is just doing a normal VS thing from excessive force and no stabilizers

youtube the robot Redrum, its a real life robot that does the same thing your describing

Cougar · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:03:41 AM »

Also just realised that the HW wobbles while stationary with the drums turned off.

Naryar · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:04:17 AM »

Did you make sure both weapons aren't too close to the ground ?

These are rather nice for first DSL bots, also.

Cougar · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:15:04 AM »

I'll remake it with the drum set a little higher. It is close to the ground though, trying to avoid making the chassis too tall.

[Edit] Thanks for the thumbs up too, I'm taking what I've learned from stock with me to DSL.

Naryar · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:16:36 AM »

Quote from: Cougar on March 17, 2010, 10:15:04 AM

It is close to the ground though, trying to avoid making the chassis too tall.

And this is why drums are difficult to build well...

Cougar · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:20:34 AM »

Quote from: Naryar on March 17, 2010, 10:16:36 AM

Quote from: Cougar on March 17, 2010, 10:15:04 AM
It is close to the ground though, trying to avoid making the chassis too tall.

And this is why drums are difficult to build well...

Hmm, I'll toy with it for a little longer before discarding it. Not sure if the other motors will make me happy for a rumbletumble.

[EDIT] I made the drums smaller so that they have more clearance, still have the same problem, It's "just" like this video.

20 seconds in.

Naryar · « **Reply #10 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:34:08 AM »

...WTF ? Never had that on any of my drums :O

JoeBlo · « **Reply #11 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:40:09 AM »

I believe ground clearance has a factor

put on some hypno wheels and see if it improves any ?

Naryar · « **Reply #12 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:47:50 AM »

I bet it would get worse with smaller wheels !

JoeBlo · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:51:00 AM »

Im just thinking as my first stock VS did it a lot at it used N-12's on motors that were base-plate level (high ground clearance

but I have been VS testing in backlash using the small soft compound wheels and I dont ever get the problem that bad

Stagfish · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2010, 12:55:33 PM »

Quote from: Pwnator on March 17, 2010, 09:48:05 AM

For the LW drum, it vibrates like because of the springy skirt hinge. I'm gonna guess that using a metal hinge will also make it vibrate, just to a lesser extent.

As for the HW, I don't know about the 'floaty' thing. XD

the drum is heavier on one side for a strange reason, look at my BW Dont use hax for a example it wobbles alot as well

Avalanche · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2010, 01:01:20 PM »

I will test some designs,then get back to TT.=P

Cougar · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2010, 01:29:24 PM »

I tried smaller wheels, but still had the problem, could it be that the drums are too wide? If they are more inner than the wheels (wheels are further out) would that fix it? o_o

I won't have chance to test it until Friday. Work fail.

Avalanche · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2010, 01:32:23 PM »

Ill do it for you.

Virus Bomb · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2010, 05:53:52 PM »

It might be skirt hinge AGOD. I had those kind of problems on some bots I've made.

LiNcK · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2010, 07:11:50 PM »

Quote from: Virus Bomb on March 17, 2010, 05:53:52 PM

It might be skirt hinge AGOD. I had those kind of problems on some bots I've made.

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