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The Big Questions of the Universe
« on: December 15, 2011, 04:23:43 PM »
Alrighty folks - since most threads about religion seem to die pretty fast, I now claim this being the official thread for asking the big questions of the universe, such as the existence of aliens, universes beyond our own, the existence of a deity, etc etc. There was a thread similar to this on another forum I visit, and i'll quote the post I made on there:

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A question that's always come across my mind is if they're actually is intelligent life beyond us. In my opinion, it's fairly ignorant to say that they're isn't - because there's thousands upon thousands of planets in goldilocks zones like how earth is. Obviously we've proven that there is life on other celestial objects (one example in our own solar system being Europa) I think that if there is intelligent life beyond humanity, that they're wondering what's beyond them as well. Since the dawn of time, humanity's asked itself "why are we here ?" and it'd be rather peculiar if other intelligent lifeforms didn't ask this question themselves and if they are more advanced than humanity, perhaps they've found out why they were put on whatever celestial object in whatever galaxy or even whatever universe.
On other things such as the existence of a deity, Growing up in a state known as the the buckle of the bible belt, I grew up as a Christian. Until I was about thirteen was when I started questioning the existence of God, and slowly progressed to agnosticism to know agnostic-atheism. (I'd go into detail, but this post is getting fairly lengthy as it is)

Obviously no flaming, be civil guys. If you don't want to intellectually debate, then leave please.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 04:31:14 PM »
My first question is this:

Why does god not like gay people according to the words of the Bible? He never gives any explanations for it - heck, he never gives explanations for ANYTHING

Oh, and logic dictates that god is female.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2011, 04:33:48 PM »
My first question is this:

Why does god not like gay people according to the words of the Bible? He never gives any explanations for it - heck, he never gives explanations for ANYTHING

Oh, and logic dictates that god is female.
Because we have no proof that the bible is the actual word of god, and that if you weren't a man who was a testosterone filled asshole, you were probably killed one way or another back then.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 04:34:00 PM »
If God doesn't like homosexuality, why did he create homosexuals? But enough religious twaddle. :gawe:
 
My answer is that we are here through random chance, and our purpose is to breed and continue the species.
 
And there's bound to be other forms of life in the universe, given how vast it is. However, the chances of us actually finding any are near infinite, given how vast it is.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2011, 04:36:21 PM »
Oh, and logic dictates that god is female.

Nope. He (used as a genderly ambiguous term) must be both genders. Due to the fact that 'he made us in his own image'. Saying that, he must be schizophrenic too, as everybody is unique (which makes us have the similarity of all being unique, but that is something for another day). But, to be honest, the gender of an omnipotent, omniscient being that may or may not exist doesn't matter in the long run.

Plus, by the logic of the bible, we are all inbred, and any type of sex is technically incest (saying that, by rules of science, the same rule applies, from what I can tell).
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2011, 04:37:17 PM »
And there's bound to be other forms of life in the universe
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 04:40:09 PM »
And there's bound to be other forms of life in the universe

Well yeah, logic dictates that another form of life must exist somewhere. With a universe so huge, and the lack of explored planets, there is a high probability that there is life. My theory is that the other planets in this solar system used to be inhabited, but then they saw us and just thought '**** this, we don't want to be near them' and ran away.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 04:40:45 PM »
Oh, and logic dictates that god is female.

Nope. He (used as a genderly ambiguous term) must be both genders. Due to the fact that 'he made us in his own image'. Saying that, he must be schizophrenic too, as everybody is unique (which makes us have the similarity of all being unique, but that is something for another day). But, to be honest, the gender of an omnipotent, omniscient being that may or may not exist doesn't matter in the long run.

Plus, by the logic of the bible, we are all inbred, and any type of sex is technically incest (saying that, by rules of science, the same rule applies, from what I can tell).
and then when you tell christians this they say "oh well the old testament isn't supposed to be taken literally" Well if ALL of the bible is the word of god, and if god is the all knowing all powerful being he is, if i was him, i'd be pretty pissed if people just disregarded the first half of the bible.
Also i think the bible is a very important piece of text for history of humanity purposes, but shouldn't be used as a instruction book for life.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2011, 04:43:16 PM »
And there's bound to be other forms of life in the universe

Well yeah, logic dictates that another form of life must exist somewhere. With a universe so huge, and the lack of explored planets, there is a high probability that there is life. My theory is that the other planets in this solar system used to be inhabited, but then they saw us and just thought '**** this, we don't want to be near them' and ran away.

Apparently, they did manage to discover life forms on one of the moons of Saturn (Io, I think it was), but it had been frozen before it could develop beyond ameoba, or something along those lines.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2011, 04:43:49 PM »
My first question is this:

Why does god not like gay people according to the words of the Bible? He never gives any explanations for it - heck, he never gives explanations for ANYTHING

Oh, and logic dictates that god is female.
God never says he dislikes gay people, just that it's a sin to have gay sex.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2011, 04:45:46 PM »
One thing I do find amusing;

Commandment VI: Thou shalt not murder (at least I think it was 6...)
Crusaders: Let's go murder everyone who doesn't believe in God

By that logic, every crusader has gone straight to hell.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2011, 04:47:31 PM »
Every Crusader Probably did go to hell. None of them had any idea what Christianity is really about.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2011, 04:53:55 PM »
There are certain values in Christianity that could be worth following, but there are too many things that aren't really worth following at all. It is the same problem with many religions really...apart from Buddhism, they don't really give a **** what you do, and if you do too much wrong, then you'll come back as a blade of grass, or something. There are some things they aren't really lenient about, but most of the time, you can do what you want.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2011, 05:01:18 PM »
Anyway, I'm actually supposed to be writing 12-page paper on free will right now, and I only have 6 pages, so if you guys wanna throw some opinions at me...
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2011, 05:02:30 PM »
Anyway, I'm actually supposed to be writing 12-page paper on free will right now, and I only have 6 pages, so if you guys wanna throw some opinions at me...
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2011, 05:03:21 PM »
Anyway, I'm actually supposed to be writing 12-page paper on free will right now, and I only have 6 pages, so if you guys wanna throw some opinions at me...
Ponies are awesome, and Fluttershy is best pony.
Well sir, that is a very good opinion, but you clearly misspelled Pinkie Pie.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2011, 05:05:57 PM »
If you have to write a paper on free will, you could simply write about ponies, and claim you are exacting your free will. =D
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2011, 05:06:12 PM »
Free will is what separates us from the Christians...and any other religion that autonomously follows something that may or may not exist, that has contradictory orders, and that they do not understand.
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In all seriousness, I will probably try to come up with something when I can actually think straight.
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2011, 05:09:37 PM »
If you have to write a paper on free will, you could simply write about ponies, and claim you are exacting your free will. =D
I threw Pinkie Pie into a paper I had to write about friendship! :gawe:
But no, i actually chose the topic for this one myself, then I realized I just suck at writing long papers. I have to use Kant, Hegel, Marx, and Nietzsche as sources.
 
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Re: The Big Questions of the Universe
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2011, 05:11:34 PM »
Ooh, nicely done, MNB. You should try to slide an MLP reference into every paper you write, just as a sort of in-joke. =D

Free will, to me, shouldn't infringe on any other person's wellbeing, or their right to live. That's kind of as far as I've ever gotten with that one.
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