Reputation Law Discussion Thread

[Urjak]

6 page topic about 1 number under the avatar.
Are you serious.

Your argument is invalid. Its a digit not a number. And you can have more than 1 digit rep

Nope, it's a number.

Anyways, I think this whole thread is a tad pointless. While I respect the effort Naryar, unfortunately I think rep needs to just be left alone or gotten rid of entirely. Policing the way its handled is far more trouble than it will ever be worth.

[kill343gs]

oh, cool dude. cant wait to stop using rep entirely because some french guy is gonna ban me if he doesn't like my opinion.

honestly, just stop.

edit: didn't know you were already rolling out the red carpet on your reputation nazi police. you really are out of your mind. you can't just decide to police something one day and everyone has to just deal with it. your name is blue, not red.

[Meganerdbomb]

>2012
>still caring about rep

ISHYGDDT

[Naryar]

We must first see if ACAMS is OK with it.

Also, R0B0, Kill, both of you probably haven't read the thread entirely, being creeped out by the possible loss of freedom you and others could possibly experience.

But removing rep entirely will make you lose even more freedom, and keeping rep users to the whole forum will make a mess out of rep.

edit: didn't know you were already rolling out the red carpet on your reputation nazi police. you really are out of your mind. you can't just decide to police something one day and everyone has to just deal with it.

Then care to tell me why I created this thread ? If I was as tyrannical as you imply, I'd just have done with this thread entirely and posted laws just right now, and probably ban you for dissing my projects. But no, because it is not fair.

Also nazi police ? Are you goddamn kidding me ?

Heh, you actually care more about rep that you say. And you're afraid I may take your privilege of rep-dealing, therefore your judgement is botched by your fears.

The "standards" you're proposing we hold the rep system to are completely arbitrary and utter nonsense. I've +rep'ed SKBT for liking hockey. Does that meet your standards? Probably not. But it still doesn't change the fact that finding this out about him has changed what I think of him in some positive way - in my eyes, it has built his reputation. Seeing as he's a generally good guy and conducts himself well, I think he's full value for his rep.

The former is invalid to my eyes, the latter is, so your repup in that case is justified.

Besides, reputation should be a GENERAL appreciation of the member by the community. How does "repping up due to personal tastes" is general ? If someone is liked 5 times by other people for personal tastes, he gets +5rep due to being slightly liked by five people out of 40. How is this "reputation" not completely arbitrary, and how is this fair compared to people that contribute ? IT IS NOT !

By putting it to a committee, you're essentially telling me that my judge of character is invalid and thus my opinion is flawed and I should be ignored. And you don't think that I'll have a problem with this?

I am not. Everyone who can rate already will be able to rate, and if it is judged sufficiently fair it will be accepted.

I am still waiting ACAMS's "ok with this" (or not), that is what will start the whole thing.

[123savethewhales]

We must first see if ACAMS is OK with it.

Also, R0B0, Kill, both of you probably haven't read the thread entirely, being creeped out by the possible loss of freedom you and others could possibly experience.

But removing rep entirely will make you lose even more freedom, and keeping rep users to the whole forum will make a mess out of rep.

Dude this is a hierarchy, what freedom are you talking about?

Nobody except you is voting if you get to fix the rules until the numbers meet your expectations.  The only suggestions you would take are those that will help you meet your targets.  Lets face it, rather you want to admit it or not, you already have what is "fair" in mind.  And if your new rules don't start showing those numbers, you will "fix" it until it does.  You will continue taking in "fair suggestions" because they will help meet your goals.  And then when it is just the way you wanted, you will call it "balanced".  I put out suggestion boxes enough times myself to know how they really work.

Not that I ever use the rep to begin with, but I prefer it gone than a number assigned to me by 1 person.

edit:   didn't know you were already rolling out the red carpet on your   reputation nazi police. you really are out of your mind. you can't just   decide to police something one day and everyone has to just deal with   it.

Then care to tell me why I created this thread ?   If I was as tyrannical as you imply, I'd just have done with this thread   entirely and posted laws just right now, and probably ban you for   dissing my projects. But no, because it is not fair.

Also nazi police ? Are you goddamn kidding me ?

Heh,   you actually care more about rep that you say. And you're afraid I may   take your privilege of rep-dealing, therefore your judgement is botched   by your fears.

This thread is a public relation.  In politics even ACAMS does not hold absolute authority because when worst comes to worst, people can leave.  Being a king of nobody but yourself isn't exactly being king.

So certainly in your position it will be much harder to "just do it" let alone "banning Kill".  You need a support base.  Suggestion boxes are important to make people "feel" that the decisions are made collectively, so people don't rebel.

Edit:  I am curious Naryar, did you just read "The Dictator's Handbook" or something?

Besides,   reputation should be a GENERAL appreciation of the member by the   community. How does "repping up due to personal tastes" is general ? If   someone is liked 5 times by other people for personal tastes, he gets   +5rep due to being slightly liked by five people out of 40. How is this   "reputation" not completely arbitrary, and how is this fair compared to   people that contribute ? IT IS NOT !

The other 35 has to option to vote down if it's so unfair that they actually start to care.  If they don't care enough to do that, then it's fair enough to the 35.

[Sage]

lol rep

only like 10% of the people can use it anyway, because they were considered worthy and notable members of the community. so...

[Chaosmancer]

It isn't like you haven't given rep that is deemed unfair by the rules stated in this thread;

Naryar (+17/-9)    R0B0SH4RK (+7/-0)       for being awesome    August 15, 2011, 07:35:18 AM
Naryar (+17/-9)    Jonzu95 (+14/-24)       Doesn't deserve -15    March 03, 2012, 03:27:27 PM
Naryar (+17/-9)    ty4er (+8/-5)       lulzy post in a stupid thread    June 10, 2011, 04:53:35 PM
Naryar (+17/-9)    Scourge of teh Galaxy (+5/-5)       I don't see what has she done to deserve positive rep.    August 25, 2011, 11:18:56 PM
Naryar (+17/-9)    Reier (+4/-1)       avatar is manly    February 22, 2012, 04:54:40 PM
Naryar (+17/-9)    Firebeetle (+2/-0)       posting    October 31, 2011, 12:16:54 AM
Naryar (+17/-9)    Jonzu95 (+14/-24)       Stupidity    October 04, 2011, 09:21:16 AM
Naryar (+17/-9)    ty4er (+8/-5)       Successful troll    October 03, 2011, 04:09:08 PM
Naryar (+17/-9)    GoldenFox93 (+24/-23)       Amusement, mostly.    August 18, 2011, 01:54:08 AM

I admit that most of them are in 2011, and thus may not be an accurate representation of what you would do now, but the point is that you have given rep that goes against these rules. I was going to say something else, but I completely forgot what it was, so I won't embarrass myself by attempting to word it right.

[123savethewhales]

lol rep

only like 10% of the people can use it anyway, because they were considered worthy and notable members of the community. so...

Yeah, and about 10% within the 10% actually bother to use it casually.

We should totally bring back the old days where everyone can vote.

[kill343gs]

do you really think im afraid of losing a sh**ty system used primarily for joking and upvoting trolls on a website i no longer really care about? no naryar im not scared, i have no problem with reputation being removed from this site entirely. as of right now it sucks ass anyways. but you can't just change the nature of the beast overnight and start issuing warnings (like you already have despite the fact you said this must wait for acams yourself) i have read this entire thread a couple times through and i just find it ridiculous that this is even a topic of discussion.

[Jonzu95]

Wake up Naryar! You warn people who stand against your opinions? That's just pathetic.

[freeziez]

if you've got that big of a stick up your ass that you are going to control what reason for rep people give, even though i know for a fact that you scolded me in my early months for complaining about rep, then you must have a serious problem.

and honestly, if my +1 goes away after this post, i don't give a sh**.

[GarvinTheGreat]

Christ, everyones getting their panties in a bunch over this.

[ty4er]

is rep really giving you that much butthurt that you decided to try and control it? it's fine as it is and nobody (well, apart from gf :P) takes it serious. as kill said it is mostly used for joking and trolling.

also i quite liked it when everyone could vote

[HurricaneAndrew]

What the Hell happened in this thread?

Oh, someone said Naryar had a small e-penis and he raged about it. That's totally worthy of 8 pages of discussion in the main forum. 

[cephalopod]

It could actually end up being fairer if everyone could vote. The stupid people repping can have privileges removed, and any stupid repping will eventually be counterbalanced.

[Tweedy]

It could actually end up being fairer if everyone could vote. The stupid people repping can have privileges removed, and any stupid repping will eventually be counterbalanced.

I agree with this

[Mecha]

It could actually end up being fairer if everyone could vote. The stupid people repping can have privileges removed, and any stupid repping will eventually be counterbalanced.

YES

[Mr. AS]

It could actually end up being fairer if everyone could vote. The stupid people repping can have privileges removed, and any stupid repping will eventually be counterbalanced.

ye

[Resetti's Replicas]

Does anyone know which country gave us the Napoleon Complex?  Just a random question that popped into my head.

[yoda9726]

This thread is amazingly ridiculous. 


Lemme start out by saying I never saw the point in the reputation system anyway, other than a bit of fun.  I couldn't care less if it exists, doesn't exist, gets overhauled, or even boils down to one person doing it.  There is one point that's been brought up repeatedly in here that I'm confused about....

Besides,   reputation should be a GENERAL appreciation of the member by the   community. How does "repping up due to personal tastes" is general ?

How can rep be a "general appreciation of the member by the COMMUNITY" when only a select few are even allowed to up or down vote?  This is specific appreciation, not general.   General appreciation by the community can only be achieved when the entire community is involved.  Nobody has to agree with why one member is being up/down voted but that's the way it is