robot wars or battlebots?

[SuperchuFrost]

Yeah, occasionally. House Robots are probably the dumbest idea ever though. It's akin to trying to play a game of (American) football and randomly releasing an angry bull on the field at any given time. You're not playing football anymore, you're trying to avoid an animal with some football on the side.

but it's funny and made good tv

[R0B0SH4RK]

Ehhhh, I disagree. There's nothing I hated more about RW than when a house bot got involved in the fight.

[ty4er]

i agree that it was a pretty bad idea but some people liked it. and it somehow made it a bit more fun

[smashysmashy]

i agree that it was a pretty bad idea but some people liked it. and it somehow made it a bit more fun

Agreed, but the best moment by far on RW was Razer destroying Matilda >=D

[RammingSpeed]

I liked Tildy 

[SuperchuFrost]

i agree that it was a pretty bad idea but some people liked it. and it somehow made it a bit more fun

Agreed, but the best moment by far on RW was Razer destroying Matilda >=D

how about firestorm flipping Mr. Psycho?

[Natef]

Yeah, occasionally. House Robots are probably the dumbest idea ever though. It's akin to trying to play a game of (American) football and randomly releasing an angry bull on the field at any given time. You're not playing football anymore, you're trying to avoid an animal with some football on the side.

I think that RW's popularity would decrease by at least 33%.

Herp everyone from overseas like robotwars and everyone over here like battlebots.



Anyway, battlebots obviously had better bots and the fights were actually bot on bot, not with the pit deciding or a houseboys coming in just because the more popular bot was losing.

Makes sense, too. Battlebots' hazards didn't really decide the match like Robot Wars' did.

[SKBT]

Robot Wars was rigged, battlebots had filler crap...


I prefer NERC...


If battlebots  was on an appropiate channel for what it was; Spike, Speed, or Discovery and took a different approach to the show and presented it as how Spike presents UFC cage fights I think it would have been much more successful.

If you've been to a robot combat event you'd understand. The atmosphere is very similar to a race or any other motorsport. I could almost compare it to a Freestyle at a Monster Jam event, but it's not quite that exciting. 

>Implying that Monster Jam isn't rigged.

I never said it wasn't...

[Resetti's Replicas]

Makes sense, too. Battlebots' hazards didn't really decide the match like Robot Wars' did.

Unless you count the hellraisers, popup cylinders,  or if one robot holds the other over one of the pulverizers - which is just like the pit except the robot is less salvageable afterwards.


House robots were a genius idea from a commercial standpoint - they ensured recurring, merchandisable characters even if the favorite robots lost too early.  And considering that the producer sunk 95,000 GBP out of pocket before they even had confirmation that they'd be getting episodes, well you can see why they'd have money on the brain.

[Enigm@]

battlebots was cool because the toptier robots did more than flipping.

[SuperchuFrost]

battlebots was cool because the toptier robots did more than flipping.

Razer, Tornado, Pussycat, Drillzilla,

[SuperchuFrost]

sorry for the X2 post, but my favorite episodes of RW were the ones that were the House Robots vs. Competitors. That was a massacre

[Resetti's Replicas]

battlebots was cool because the toptier robots did more than flipping.

Actually you're wrong, there were only two standout spinners (Ziggo and Hazard - Minion doesn't count and SoW got errata'd); the rest of the "toptiers" were low-to-nil in terms of damage capability.  In an arena where the easiest way to win was pinning the other guy under a giant hammer, the pushers/grabbers are king.  They way I see it, that's no different from winning via the pit, except the loser walks away with a lot less salvageable parts.

[Natef]

Do you hate Battlebots?

[Resetti's Replicas]

I don't hate it - without it there would be no robot combat in the United States, and I'd never wish that upon us. 


I do dislike the way it was managed, it came across as some kind of an exclusive club for people who had been doing robots prior to Season 1.0  Having "meet Dr inferno Jr's driver" segments, and only interviewing one team before a match are shining examples of none-too-subtle favoritism.  Indeed if you look at the list of all 20 champions, only one of them was an "outsider" (it's Son of Whyachi) and he got utterly crucified.


I was disappointed by how they made it into a comedy, especially having those two jokers Bill and Tim as announcers - calling them clueless would be charitable.   I have to laugh when they called Bill Nye their "technical expert" I have nothing against the man, but all the little factoids he gave were so dumbed-down that they could have just as easily had Carmen Electra reading them; ex,  "Toro is trying to self-right with that 1000 PSI pneumatic ram. Let's see if he can do it."


With Robot Wars, you got a 96 or 128-bot tournament that you could follow from beginning to end.  If a seed lost in the first round, well sucks to be them.  A robot could perform abysmally in one season and then come back as champ in the next.


I don't think Robot Wars was perfect, but they were obviously doing something right if they started out 95,000 in debt and ended up a multimillion-pound franchise.

[MassimoV]

"Toro is trying to self-right with that 1000 PSI pneumatic ram. Let's see if he can do it."

That made me laugh.

[SKBT]

"Toro is trying to self-right with that 1000 PSI pneumatic ram. Let's see if he can do it."

Contrary to popular belief it's only 1000psi at the first "flip". In an unregulated co2 system the pressure drops considerably after each "flip". In my flipper I loose ~50 psi per flip, even though liquid co2 martians around 700-1000psi the conversion from liquid to gas freezes it which then lowers the pressure which means less flipping power. So in conclusion it's perfectly valid for them to question Toro's ability to self right with a 1000 psi flipper.

Edit: Also if the ram doesn't have a powered retract stroke it could get stuck in the "extend" position and be unable to retract. (see bounty hunter vs ragin scottsman for an example)