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Off-Topic => Chatterbox => Topic started by: SuperchuFrost on March 19, 2012, 05:37:42 PM
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which do you like better and why.
for me robot wars because of the house robots.
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I grew up with Robot Wars, not Battlebots.
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same here :approve:
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It is hard too choose because I like both, but I have seen more of Robot Wars.
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Robot Wars, for me. No disrespect to Battlebots, but the former is what I've grown up with.
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lets have make robot wars vs battlebots
Umm.. i personaly like robot wars for me,because is not full of spinners unlike battlebots.
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Robot Wars. Let's see, Battlebots had commentators (the fact that it's a plural is bad enough) with a combined IQ of the season number, LOTS of needless filler (show of hands, who gives a **** about the Dr. Inferno Jr guy's swing dancing hobby?), blatant preferential treatment (unseeded robots could have to fight as many as four battles to reach the same stage as the seeded ones), blatant overdubbing with fake "metal smashing" sound effects, doing extended interviews pre-match with just one of the teams made it painfully obvious which one would win, Bill Nye painfully misused.
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yeah BattleBots was waaay too showy but I grew up with it so BattleBots wins for me. Not dissing RW but I just think BattleBots was cooler.
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Robot Wars. Let's see, Battlebots had commentators (the fact that it's a plural is bad enough) with a combined IQ of the season number, LOTS of needless filler (show of hands, who gives a **** about the Dr. Inferno Jr guy's swing dancing hobby?), blatant preferential treatment (unseeded robots could have to fight as many as four battles to reach the same stage as the seeded ones), blatant overdubbing with fake "metal smashing" sound effects, doing extended interviews pre-match with just one of the teams made it painfully obvious which one would win, Bill Nye painfully misused.
That, and not to mention that half the time in the last series, it focused more on Carmen Electra's rack than oh, I don't know, the robots themselves.
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i grew up with robot wars
because is not full of spinners unlike battlebots.
robot wars is the same way with flippers
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i grew up with robot wars
because is not full of spinners unlike battlebots.
robot wars is the same way with flippers
and with razer clones
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i grew up with robot wars
because is not full of spinners unlike battlebots.
robot wars is the same way with flippers
and with razer clones
mainly after series 5 (after razer won) but true
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To be fair, there were only seven after S5; Kraken, Mantis, Ming 3, Tiberius, Pinser, ROCS, and Snake Bite. And to be fair-er, Razer itself wasn't in series 7.
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Battlebots was the sh**.
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yeah if only they showed more battles and less crap
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I liked the filler stuff.
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Robot Wars was rigged, battlebots had filler crap...
I prefer NERC...
If battlebots was on an appropiate channel for what it was; Spike, Speed, or Discovery and took a different approach to the show and presented it as how Spike presents UFC cage fights I think it would have been much more successful.
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Robot Wars didn't take itself too seriously, and always made it clear that the point was to have fun.
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how the hell would Battlebots fit on Speed
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If you've been to a robot combat event you'd understand. The atmosphere is very similar to a race or any other motorsport. I could almost compare it to a Freestyle at a Monster Jam event, but it's not quite that exciting.
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Robot Wars was rigged, battlebots had filler crap...
I prefer NERC...
If battlebots was on an appropiate channel for what it was; Spike, Speed, or Discovery and took a different approach to the show and presented it as how Spike presents UFC cage fights I think it would have been much more successful.
If you've been to a robot combat event you'd understand. The atmosphere is very similar to a race or any other motorsport. I could almost compare it to a Freestyle at a Monster Jam event, but it's not quite that exciting.
>Implying that Monster Jam isn't rigged.
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Robot Wars, for sure.
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Robotica, ladies and gentlemen.
Seriously though, Robot Wars had a far better production value, but Battlebots robots were far and away superior machines. I preferred Battlebots, but the bullcrap "slams, jabs, rams, etc." judging criteria that Comedy Central displayed really bothered me at times.
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debbot from robotica was pretty cool
i still prefer battlebots
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Robotica, ladies and gentlemen.
Seriously though, Robot Wars had a far better production value, but Battlebots robots were far and away superior machines. I preferred Battlebots, but the bullcrap "slams, jabs, rams, etc." judging criteria that Comedy Central displayed really bothered me at times.
That wasn't what they were actually being judged on, but I agree, it was stupid. The Mortis vs Voltarc match, Mortis won on those made up categories, but Voltarc won on the actual criteria, so all they managed to do was confuse the viewing audience.
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That was pretty clear, especially considering that CC's categories and counts were completely arbitrary.
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From what i've seen ? Battlebots.
Also, RW tends to create more fanboys than battlebots. Although i've never met a battlebot fanboy, I'm sure they exists, and maybe i've met the right persons on these forums.
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robot wars. battlebots had pretty crap commentators and not enough fights
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From what i've seen ? Battlebots.
Also, RW tends to create more fanboys than battlebots. Although i've never met a battlebot fanboy, I'm sure they exists, and maybe i've met the right persons on these forums.
Sadly true.
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From what i've seen ? Battlebots.
Also, RW tends to create more fanboys than battlebots. Although i've never met a battlebot fanboy, I'm sure they exists, and maybe i've met the right persons on these forums.
Sadly true.
Disagreed.
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Robotica, ladies and gentlemen.
Didn't they play the entire season 3 in one day?
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From what i've seen ? Battlebots.
Also, RW tends to create more fanboys than battlebots. Although i've never met a battlebot fanboy, I'm sure they exists, and maybe i've met the right persons on these forums.
Sadly true.
Disagreed.
Explain.
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Robot Wars didn't take itself too seriously, and always made it clear that the point was to have fun.
Aye, that's another thing I liked RW for- you'd never have seen something like Diotoir make it onto TV in Battlebots, for instance.
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Robot Wars didn't take itself too seriously, and always made it clear that the point was to have fun.
Aye, that's another thing I liked RW for- you'd never have seen something like Diotoir make it onto TV in Battlebots, for instance.
At least up until the seventh series, when it did veer much more towards the destructive competition aspect of things, I reckon. It was already headed in that direction, just from the technology improvements and so forth, but the first couple of series, where you had the Gauntlet, Trials, that sort of thing, it was a lot more about having fun rather than winning. Bots like Diotoir, Cerberus, Milly-Ann Bug, Recyclopse, even Razer to an extent. And at the very least, you were likely to have a complete robot at the end of it, instead of being disassembled by Ziggo or whatever happened in Battlebots to the less robust competitors.
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What about stewbot?
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Robot Wars didn't take itself too seriously, and always made it clear that the point was to have fun.
Aye, that's another thing I liked RW for- you'd never have seen something like Diotoir make it onto TV in Battlebots, for instance.
At least up until the seventh series, when it did veer much more towards the destructive competition aspect of things, I reckon. It was already headed in that direction, just from the technology improvements and so forth, but the first couple of series, where you had the Gauntlet, Trials, that sort of thing, it was a lot more about having fun rather than winning. Bots like Diotoir, Cerberus, Milly-Ann Bug, Recyclopse, even Razer to an extent. And at the very least, you were likely to have a complete robot at the end of it, instead of being disassembled by Ziggo or whatever happened in Battlebots to the less robust competitors.
Agreed. What I also liked was how in the earlier series, they also showed the more technical aspects of the competitors in their introductions- lifting the bonnet on the robots and showing how everything worked. I thought that was cool.
And again, you never saw that on Battlebots- instead it was mostly completely irrelevant filler that ate into the time they could've used to show something relevant, like more fights or technical thingamajigs.
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Herp everyone from overseas like robotwars and everyone over here like battlebots.
Anyway, battlebots obviously had better bots and the fights were actually bot on bot, not with the pit deciding or a houseboys coming in just because the more popular bot was losing.
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Herp everyone from overseas like robotwars and everyone over here like battlebots.
Anyway, battlebots obviously had better bots and the fights were actually bot on bot, not with the pit deciding or a houseboys coming in just because the more popular bot was losing.
hey, im American
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Herp everyone from overseas like robotwars and everyone over here like battlebots.
Anyway, battlebots obviously had better bots and the fights were actually bot on bot, not with the pit deciding or a houseboys coming in just because the more popular bot was losing.
on the odd occasion they actually had a fight
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Yeah, occasionally. House Robots are probably the dumbest idea ever though. It's akin to trying to play a game of (American) football and randomly releasing an angry bull on the field at any given time. You're not playing football anymore, you're trying to avoid an animal with some football on the side.
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Yeah, occasionally. House Robots are probably the dumbest idea ever though. It's akin to trying to play a game of (American) football and randomly releasing an angry bull on the field at any given time. You're not playing football anymore, you're trying to avoid an animal with some football on the side.
but it's funny and made good tv
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Ehhhh, I disagree. There's nothing I hated more about RW than when a house bot got involved in the fight.
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i agree that it was a pretty bad idea but some people liked it. and it somehow made it a bit more fun
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i agree that it was a pretty bad idea but some people liked it. and it somehow made it a bit more fun
Agreed, but the best moment by far on RW was Razer destroying Matilda >=D
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I liked Tildy :(
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i agree that it was a pretty bad idea but some people liked it. and it somehow made it a bit more fun
Agreed, but the best moment by far on RW was Razer destroying Matilda >=D
how about firestorm flipping Mr. Psycho?
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Yeah, occasionally. House Robots are probably the dumbest idea ever though. It's akin to trying to play a game of (American) football and randomly releasing an angry bull on the field at any given time. You're not playing football anymore, you're trying to avoid an animal with some football on the side.
I think that RW's popularity would decrease by at least 33%.
Herp everyone from overseas like robotwars and everyone over here like battlebots.
Anyway, battlebots obviously had better bots and the fights were actually bot on bot, not with the pit deciding or a houseboys coming in just because the more popular bot was losing.
Makes sense, too. Battlebots' hazards didn't really decide the match like Robot Wars' did.
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Robot Wars was rigged, battlebots had filler crap...
I prefer NERC...
If battlebots was on an appropiate channel for what it was; Spike, Speed, or Discovery and took a different approach to the show and presented it as how Spike presents UFC cage fights I think it would have been much more successful.
If you've been to a robot combat event you'd understand. The atmosphere is very similar to a race or any other motorsport. I could almost compare it to a Freestyle at a Monster Jam event, but it's not quite that exciting.
>Implying that Monster Jam isn't rigged.
I never said it wasn't...
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Makes sense, too. Battlebots' hazards didn't really decide the match like Robot Wars' did.
Unless you count the hellraisers, popup cylinders, or if one robot holds the other over one of the pulverizers - which is just like the pit except the robot is less salvageable afterwards.
House robots were a genius idea from a commercial standpoint - they ensured recurring, merchandisable characters even if the favorite robots lost too early. And considering that the producer sunk 95,000 GBP out of pocket before they even had confirmation that they'd be getting episodes, well you can see why they'd have money on the brain.
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battlebots was cool because the toptier robots did more than flipping. :coolface
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battlebots was cool because the toptier robots did more than flipping. :coolface
Razer, Tornado, Pussycat, Drillzilla,
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sorry for the X2 post, but my favorite episodes of RW were the ones that were the House Robots vs. Competitors. That was a massacre :gunz: :party
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battlebots was cool because the toptier robots did more than flipping. :coolface
Actually you're wrong, there were only two standout spinners (Ziggo and Hazard - Minion doesn't count and SoW got errata'd); the rest of the "toptiers" were low-to-nil in terms of damage capability. In an arena where the easiest way to win was pinning the other guy under a giant hammer, the pushers/grabbers are king. They way I see it, that's no different from winning via the pit, except the loser walks away with a lot less salvageable parts.
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Do you hate Battlebots?
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I don't hate it - without it there would be no robot combat in the United States, and I'd never wish that upon us.
I do dislike the way it was managed, it came across as some kind of an exclusive club for people who had been doing robots prior to Season 1.0 Having "meet Dr inferno Jr's driver" segments, and only interviewing one team before a match are shining examples of none-too-subtle favoritism. Indeed if you look at the list of all 20 champions, only one of them was an "outsider" (it's Son of Whyachi) and he got utterly crucified.
I was disappointed by how they made it into a comedy, especially having those two jokers Bill and Tim as announcers - calling them clueless would be charitable. I have to laugh when they called Bill Nye their "technical expert" I have nothing against the man, but all the little factoids he gave were so dumbed-down that they could have just as easily had Carmen Electra reading them; ex, "Toro is trying to self-right with that 1000 PSI pneumatic ram. Let's see if he can do it."
With Robot Wars, you got a 96 or 128-bot tournament that you could follow from beginning to end. If a seed lost in the first round, well sucks to be them. A robot could perform abysmally in one season and then come back as champ in the next.
I don't think Robot Wars was perfect, but they were obviously doing something right if they started out 95,000 in debt and ended up a multimillion-pound franchise.
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"Toro is trying to self-right with that 1000 PSI pneumatic ram. Let's see if he can do it."
That made me laugh.
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"Toro is trying to self-right with that 1000 PSI pneumatic ram. Let's see if he can do it."
Contrary to popular belief it's only 1000psi at the first "flip". In an unregulated co2 system the pressure drops considerably after each "flip". In my flipper I loose ~50 psi per flip, even though liquid co2 martians around 700-1000psi the conversion from liquid to gas freezes it which then lowers the pressure which means less flipping power. So in conclusion it's perfectly valid for them to question Toro's ability to self right with a 1000 psi flipper.
Edit: Also if the ram doesn't have a powered retract stroke it could get stuck in the "extend" position and be unable to retract. (see bounty hunter vs ragin scottsman for an example)