Ghosts

[frezal]

I for one like to know how those around me behave including the family cat. And I'm very sure cats can see further than that. Other wise he is extremely good at tracking lazer light paths for starters.

Cats can only clearly see up to about 3 feet. However, a cat's eye is great at sensing movement. That is why your cat can follow a laser pointer with ease. Besides, a laser is a light (Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation), and one does not need to see in detail to see the presence of a light.

Nevertheless, if your cat could see it, you should have been able to see it too. Unless of course you want to reject our entire understanding of visible light and eye function. In which case, you'd better have some evidence to back your claim.

Funny that you would say that. We can disagree so bad that I have punched her before while she was slapping me.

That's quite a violent situation. Does this happen often?

Ain't all problems testable? Yes it is on assumptions thats how humans work.

How does one test if it's a demon who was demon standing in your house? First, you would have to prove the existence of demons. Second, you would have to learn about the nature of demons, and how they operate. Then you'd have to find some sort of evidence that the demon was actually there. Something that rules out all other possible explanations. Thus far, you've provided no information that we haven't been able to easily explain without the use of the supernatural.

For all you know you could be talking to a computer thats giving these answers. How do you know your not?

I don't know that I'm not talking to a computer, but I have been given no evidence to make me think that I am. However, there seems to be plenty of evidence to indicate that you are indeed a human. For instance, your consistently bad spelling/grammar. I've never seen a computer approximation that can match the "voice" of a person.

Other factors. Do all agree with some of these factors? No.

Could you rephrase that? I'm not sure what you're saying, and I don't want to misrepresent your argument.

The way I'v been brought up may seem......... religious but it also explains so other things for me as well.

If religion makes you happy, go for it. But it sounds like you're letting irrationality frighten you. If single-mindedness really bothers you, open up and consider other viewpoints. Consider for a moment that it's not a demon. Do the alternate explanations offered to you make sense?

 

Science can't explain every thing.

True, science can't currently explain anything. Nothing can. It can, however, explain your "encounters".

For one Its very depressing to think your nothing (note the "Nothing") more then a random chemical mix that is now some how living.

Why is that depressing? Must there be a plan for your relationships to be meaningful? Must your destiny be preplanned by a space tyrant for you to be happy, and help others be happy?

But now I'm going off on a different topic all together there. The place is small and not much air flow. Yes these no evidence that I can say or you'll accept to prove it was a demon not a random air pocket.

It doesn't matter how small of a room it is. Even in a hot oven, cold pockets form. (This is why it's advised to rotate your dish halfway through the bake cycle.) It's not because a demon is standing in the oven; it's because of physics.

[Sage]

I have a friend who has a ghost in her house. I'm a very scientific and logically oriented guy, so it was interesting to be proven wrong. Respect the supernatural.

[frezal]

Respect the supernatural.

No. If it can be proven, it's not supernatural; it's natural. If there's no proof, there's no puddin'.

[Enigm@]

I have a ghost in my house. His name is Hubert and he likes tea time with my pet robot unicorn named Herschel.

[Sage]

Respect the supernatural.

No. If it can be proven, it's not supernatural; it's natural. If there's no proof, there's no puddin'.

Supernatural or normal natural is just terminology. I thought exactly the same as you, until I met my friend's ghost. I know you won't believe until you interact with one, but whatever.

The really surprising thing, though, was the movies weren't far off. I mean "it" didn't float or make angry faces, but it was definitely transparent and stood in random spots, sometimes making this odd sound, or, this one time, appearing behind me (freaked the sh** out of me), grabbing my wallet from my back pocket, emptying it, and chucking it across the room. When I retrieved my wallet, there was an ancient looking business card stuck in a pocket. The name was completely faced out, but apparently he was some sort of medicine man. We think his "soul" or whatever you want to call it stayed behind at the regret of accidentally killing a patient or something. That's our theory at least. Have yet to get him to talk yet, though... >.>

[LiNcK]

Respect the supernatural.

No. If it can be proven, it's not supernatural; it's natural. If there's no proof, there's no puddin'.

Supernatural or normal natural is just terminology. I thought exactly the same as you, until I met my friend's ghost. I know you won't believe until you interact with one, but whatever.

The really surprising thing, though, was the movies weren't far off. I mean "it" didn't float or make angry faces, but it was definitely transparent and stood in random spots, sometimes making this odd sound, or, this one time, appearing behind me (freaked the sh** out of me), grabbing my wallet from my back pocket, emptying it, and chucking it across the room. When I retrieved my wallet, there was an ancient looking business card stuck in a pocket. The name was completely faced out, but apparently he was some sort of medicine man. We think his "soul" or whatever you want to call it stayed behind at the regret of accidentally killing a patient or something. That's our theory at least. Have yet to get him to talk yet, though... >.>

OUIJA BOARD! :D

[Sage]

Ouija boards are bull.

[frezal]

Supernatural or normal natural is just terminology. I thought exactly the same as you, until I met my friend's ghost. I know you won't believe until you interact with one, but whatever.

The really surprising thing, though, was the movies weren't far off. I mean "it" didn't float or make angry faces, but it was definitely transparent and stood in random spots, sometimes making this odd sound, or, this one time, appearing behind me (freaked the sh** out of me), grabbing my wallet from my back pocket, emptying it, and chucking it across the room. When I retrieved my wallet, there was an ancient looking business card stuck in a pocket. The name was completely faced out, but apparently he was some sort of medicine man. We think his "soul" or whatever you want to call it stayed behind at the regret of accidentally killing a patient or something. That's our theory at least. Have yet to get him to talk yet, though... >.>

Is that your ghost?

[Sage]

No, that's Bill Cosby

[frezal]

No, that's Bill Cosby

If your ghost isn't Ghost Dad, it's not real.

[Naryar]

Sage, you are smarter than that. Please stop trying to get attention in such an awful way !

[Scorpion]

Respect the supernatural.

Ouija boards are bull.

[Sage]

Sage, you are smarter than that. Please stop trying to get attention in such an awful way !

You think I'm attention whoring? >.>

I posted this on here with full realization that no one would believe me. But even if you don't, you shouldn't have to insult my forum ethics. The thread is labeled "Ghosts" so I told my ghost story. I thought you wanted people to be on topic, Nary?

EDIT: Scorp, ouija boards aren't supernatural. They're just toys for scaring kids (like my sister at her slumber parties).

[frezal]

You think I'm attention whoring? >.>

I get the impression that you're trolling.

[123savethewhales]

What's wrong with Sage's story?  It's entirely plausible that he experienced it.

If a person has a spiritual experience, he is pretty irrational to still believe that ghost does not existing.

[ThisDude069]

Personally, I've never experienced any ghosts, or any hauntings, I don't really believe in it. However, I cannot disprove ghosts, therefore I will not say they do not exist. Personally, I just don't believe in them.

[Meganerdbomb]

Some of you people are so narrow-minded it's just ridiculous. Not that I believe in ghosts either, but sh**.

[frezal]

What's wrong with Sage's story?  It's entirely plausible that he experienced it.

Aside from breaking the laws of physics? Well, nothing. That's a pretty big factor to ignore, though.

If a person has a spiritual experience, he is pretty irrational to still believe that ghost does not existing.

It's irrational to assume ghosts when other more plausible explanations exist.

If Sage isn't just trolling, I demand some photos/video. Cameras work essentially the same way as the human eye, so if you can see it, so can the camera.

[123savethewhales]

What's wrong with Sage's story?  It's entirely plausible that he experienced it.

Aside from breaking the laws of physics? Well, nothing. That's a pretty big factor to ignore, though.

Someone's "experience" cannot break the law of physics.

If a person has a spiritual experience, he is pretty irrational to still believe that ghost does not existing.

It's irrational to assume ghosts when other more plausible explanations exist.

If Sage isn't just trolling, I demand some photos/video. Cameras work essentially the same way as the human eye, so if you can see it, so can the camera.

And what makes denying some experiences in favor of others more "plausible"?  Where's does the rational process fits into this?

Nor do I see why he have to prove anything to anything.  Point is IF he experienced it then it's rational for him to believe it.

[Preytor_4]

There used to be a ghost that haunted me. *goes to find paper about it*