Boo.Holy sh** a real ghost!!!!
OK, if we PM each-other, we can solve it together.Jinkies :gawe:
OK, you are way too into trains, but I shall investigate.
GF, didn't you notice the ghost was an A4?I did. You already told me about the story in another thread- that's when I was wondering whether Sir Ralph Wedgwood was involved.
I posted this in a similar topic on another forum
One time I was in the centre of Macclesfield when I heard a chime whistle; once, twice, three times. Me and my two friends (both rail people) heard it and rushed down to the station to see the train. Nothing. We asked some station staff if a streamliner on a special diverted came through, the staff said no. Later that day, about 6:00 at night (September time so it was dark) the whistle was heard again. I live half a mile away from the station and it was clearly heard. This continued at 4:00 and at 6:00 daily for a week. Later in the year in august, I was standing at Macc station with my class from school (11 of us) when I heard the rails 'whine' as if a 390 or a 323 was approaching. Nothing came but as the whine became louder and then a sudden wind and then the wining dissipated slowly. It felt like an invisible, silent train had gone through the platform. I asked a girl behind me if she had heard it, she hadn't. My friend next to me, he hadn't. I was the only one in my set to hear it and the only one in my set who's familiar with railways.
Later on a 390 going to London I google'd Macc station ghost. No results. Macc station accident. 1 relevant result. in autumn 1952 a man was in the four-foot when an A4 let out three whistles. As the man jumped into the six-foot, his leg got run over by the train (Huskisson?) and the resultant blood loss killed him within the hour.
Was this the ghost of the A4 that killed this man? Are only people who are familiar with railways able to see this ghost?
Where from?
A ghost train surely wouldn't produce steam.
I have what I think is the reason for the rails humming and the odd breeze. Could it be air turbulence in the Macc tunnel (about 300 yards from the station) that caused the noise?
I posted this in a similar topic on another forum
One time I was in the centre of Macclesfield when I heard a chime whistle; once, twice, three times. Me and my two friends (both rail people) heard it and rushed down to the station to see the train. Nothing. We asked some station staff if a streamliner on a special diverted came through, the staff said no. Later that day, about 6:00 at night (September time so it was dark) the whistle was heard again. I live half a mile away from the station and it was clearly heard. This continued at 4:00 and at 6:00 daily for a week. Later in the year in august, I was standing at Macc station with my class from school (11 of us) when I heard the rails 'whine' as if a 390 or a 323 was approaching. Nothing came but as the whine became louder and then a sudden wind and then the wining dissipated slowly. It felt like an invisible, silent train had gone through the platform. I asked a girl behind me if she had heard it, she hadn't. My friend next to me, he hadn't. I was the only one in my set to hear it and the only one in my set who's familiar with railways.
Later on a 390 going to London I google'd Macc station ghost. No results. Macc station accident. 1 relevant result. in autumn 1952 a man was in the four-foot when an A4 let out three whistles. As the man jumped into the six-foot, his leg got run over by the train (Huskisson?) and the resultant blood loss killed him within the hour.
Was this the ghost of the A4 that killed this man? Are only people who are familiar with railways able to see this ghost?
Like this?I posted this in a similar topic on another forum
One time I was in the centre of Macclesfield when I heard a chime whistle; once, twice, three times. Me and my two friends (both rail people) heard it and rushed down to the station to see the train. Nothing. We asked some station staff if a streamliner on a special diverted came through, the staff said no. Later that day, about 6:00 at night (September time so it was dark) the whistle was heard again. I live half a mile away from the station and it was clearly heard. This continued at 4:00 and at 6:00 daily for a week. Later in the year in august, I was standing at Macc station with my class from school (11 of us) when I heard the rails 'whine' as if a 390 or a 323 was approaching. Nothing came but as the whine became louder and then a sudden wind and then the wining dissipated slowly. It felt like an invisible, silent train had gone through the platform. I asked a girl behind me if she had heard it, she hadn't. My friend next to me, he hadn't. I was the only one in my set to hear it and the only one in my set who's familiar with railways.
Later on a 390 going to London I google'd Macc station ghost. No results. Macc station accident. 1 relevant result. in autumn 1952 a man was in the four-foot when an A4 let out three whistles. As the man jumped into the six-foot, his leg got run over by the train (Huskisson?) and the resultant blood loss killed him within the hour.
Was this the ghost of the A4 that killed this man? Are only people who are familiar with railways able to see this ghost?
hmm, strange. There are quite a few ghost trains in the US.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Fav3iPTE0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Fav3iPTE0#ws)
Well, I've seen the movie, so I'd know. Then again, it wasn't a terribly bright thing to do, either.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Fav3iPTE0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Fav3iPTE0#ws)
That would be more a effective statement were it not for the fact that
i hear a train whistle every night at like 2am....
then again i live a few miles from a train station.
There's no reason for me to believe that ghosts exist. For those who think they've seen a ghost, was this lost soul wearing clothing? If yes, how does that make any sense? The person's clothes didn't die with them.That's actually a really good point. 0_0
There's no reason for me to believe that ghosts exist. For those who think they've seen a ghost, was this lost soul wearing clothing? If yes, how does that make any sense? The person's clothes didn't die with them.I believe that souls don't have a shape. But they're not going to show up in front of someone, having no shape, right? I guess they project a picture of their last moments of life, somehow.
Is there any need for the multiple spoilers?
Besides, people are just voicing their opinions, if you've got a story and want to say it, you may aswell say it.
And Urjak. With Power Pills.
What do you mean?
Once again, probably just others opinions. At any rate, that's not a good reason for not saying your own opinion.Is there any need for the multiple spoilers?
Besides, people are just voicing their opinions, if you've got a story and want to say it, you may aswell say it.
I have voiced it before and got the same crap like this thread is getting.
What do you mean?
Once again, probably just others opinions. At any rate, that's not a good reason for not saying your own opinion.Is there any need for the multiple spoilers?
Besides, people are just voicing their opinions, if you've got a story and want to say it, you may aswell say it.
I have voiced it before and got the same crap like this thread is getting.
You want me to tell you of one of them? Alright have you ever bin pushed into your bed when your laying face down? If your in the position you could end up suffocating. Lucky my head was off to the side so I could still breath but the pressure was there. Heck my body is getting shaky as recall this. Any way as the pressure continued the deeper I went into the bed. The worst part of it is the it almost froze my body, I could not move a inch all I could do was think thats it. It went away when my moms alarm clock went and the bed springs pushed me back up to the level I normally go to. I got up and every mussel in my body felt like it was twitching after that. No it was not a dream. I know because my eyes were open and when it went away I went out into the hall way in my place.
Would you like another encounter?
I believe that souls don't have a shape. But they're not going to show up in front of someone, having no shape, right? I guess they project a picture of their last moments of life, somehow.A more logical conclusion would be that they wear clothes because they're some figment of your imagination, and you remember them wearing clothes. Sure, that's not as sexy of an answer as the one you provided, but it's an explanation that doesn't rely on the supernatural.
You want me to tell you of one of them? Alright have you ever bin pushed into your bed when your laying face down? If your in the position you could end up suffocating. Lucky my head was off to the side so I could still breath but the pressure was there. Heck my body is getting shaky as recall this. Any way as the pressure continued the deeper I went into the bed. The worst part of it is the it almost froze my body, I could not move a inch all I could do was think thats it. It went away when my moms alarm clock went and the bed springs pushed me back up to the level I normally go to. I got up and every mussel in my body felt like it was twitching after that. No it was not a dream. I know because my eyes were open and when it went away I went out into the hall way in my place.It stopped with an alarm? Hmm... Simple explanation would be sleep paralysis. When in sleep paralysis, you're only partially awake. Your body is still asleep, but some brain function has restored. Hallucinations are common when in this state. When the alarm went off, you fully woke up.
Two words:
Sleep Paralysis.
Google it, it will make you feel better.
Two words:
Sleep Paralysis.
Google it, it will make you feel better.
In what way? I was sleeping with my back up not on the bed (Not that I think any one gives a hoot) but it fails to explain the beds springs in the mattress.Often I will go to sleep on my side, but wake up on my back. Which is the more logically explanation of why: a ghost flipped me over, or I rolled over at some point while sleeping?
Why would He be allergic to alarm clocks? :confused:In what way? I was sleeping with my back up not on the bed (Not that I think any one gives a hoot) but it fails to explain the beds springs in the mattress.Often I will go to sleep on my side, but wake up on my back. Which is the more logically explanation of why: a ghost flipped me over, or I rolled over at some point while sleeping?
As for the sinking into the bed, which is a more logical explanation: you were in a state of sleep paralysis (which is very common) and hallucinated the whole thing, or the laws of physics are bunk and a ghost who's allergic to alarm clocks was shoving your whole body into a mattress?
Maybe he doesn't like Time Pixies.Why would He be allergic to alarm clocks? :confused:In what way? I was sleeping with my back up not on the bed (Not that I think any one gives a hoot) but it fails to explain the beds springs in the mattress.Often I will go to sleep on my side, but wake up on my back. Which is the more logically explanation of why: a ghost flipped me over, or I rolled over at some point while sleeping?
As for the sinking into the bed, which is a more logical explanation: you were in a state of sleep paralysis (which is very common) and hallucinated the whole thing, or the laws of physics are bunk and a ghost who's allergic to alarm clocks was shoving your whole body into a mattress?
Frezal's last statement was not supposed to be logic.Why would He be allergic to alarm clocks? :confused:In what way? I was sleeping with my back up not on the bed (Not that I think any one gives a hoot) but it fails to explain the beds springs in the mattress.Often I will go to sleep on my side, but wake up on my back. Which is the more logically explanation of why: a ghost flipped me over, or I rolled over at some point while sleeping?
As for the sinking into the bed, which is a more logical explanation: you were in a state of sleep paralysis (which is very common) and hallucinated the whole thing, or the laws of physics are bunk and a ghost who's allergic to alarm clocks was shoving your whole body into a mattress?
In what way? I was sleeping with my back up not on the bed (Not that I think any one gives a hoot) but it fails to explain the beds springs in the mattress.Often I will go to sleep on my side, but wake up on my back. Which is the more logically explanation of why: a ghost flipped me over, or I rolled over at some point while sleeping?
As for the sinking into the bed, which is a more logical explanation: you were in a state of sleep paralysis (which is very common) and hallucinated the whole thing, or the laws of physics are bunk and a ghost who's allergic to alarm clocks was shoving your whole body into a mattress?
I do not feel like getting into a debate about this one again.
You cannot state that and complain about single mindedness at the same time... Well, unless you're fine with being a hypocrite.I do not feel like getting into a debate about this one again.
You cannot state that and complain about single mindedness at the same time... Well, unless you're fine with being a hypocrite.I do not feel like getting into a debate about this one again.
In what way? I was sleeping with my back up not on the bed (Not that I think any one gives a hoot) but it fails to explain the beds springs in the mattress.Often I will go to sleep on my side, but wake up on my back. Which is the more logically explanation of why: a ghost flipped me over, or I rolled over at some point while sleeping? I for one know I feel asleep the way I woke. Yes you turn and toss in your sleep. Every one does. I know cause sometimes my sheets are every were. Judging by what your talking about here you'v never had anything of the sort happen so I'll have a hard time getting the point to you. When you are in a room or any were and a demon (Or how you guys like it called ghost) is in the area you know. There presents let you know. You mainly get scared or get the feeling you want to leave that area right now or both or possibly more. If your like 85% or more of the world you'll just think I'm a freak and needs to go to a psycho place. Thats what the world more or less does with people who do have these.......expreences (Spelling not coming to me)
As for the sinking into the bed, which is a more logical explanation: you were in a state of sleep paralysis (which is very common) and hallucinated the whole thing, or the laws of physics are bunk and a ghost who's allergic to alarm clocks was shoving your whole body into a mattress?
I for one know I feel asleep the way I woke. Yes you turn and toss in your sleep. Every one does. I know cause sometimes my sheets are every were.How do you know you didn't squirm or roll over in your sleep? Just because your sheets didn't move, that doesn't mean you didn't. Unless of course your nightwear and sheets are velcro.
Judging by what your talking about here you'v never had anything of the sort happen so I'll have a hard time getting the point to you.I don't get sleep paralysis, but my friend/former roommate does. He's told me all about it. Your story sounds exactly like what he experiences.
When you are in a room or any were and a demon (Or how you guys like it called ghost) is in the area you know. There presents let you know. You mainly get scared or get the feeling you want to leave that area right now or both or possibly more. If your like 85% or more of the world you'll just think I'm a freak and needs to go to a psycho place. Thats what the world more or less does with people who do have these.......expreences (Spelling not coming to me)Again, what's the more logical conclusion: you were in a well-known, and quite common state known as sleep paralysis where hallucinations and a sense of fear are common, or a supernatural phenomenon occurred that breaks all of the laws of physics?
I for one know I feel asleep the way I woke. Yes you turn and toss in your sleep. Every one does. I know cause sometimes my sheets are every were.How do you know you didn't squirm or roll over in your sleep? Just because your sheets didn't move, that doesn't mean you didn't. Unless of course your nightwear and sheets are velcro. Either your taking this to the extreme or you analyze every thing and sometimes to far. I fail to see what your comet has to do with this debate. Yes I went to sleep the way I woke, when did I mention though that I din't move at all?Judging by what your talking about here you'v never had anything of the sort happen so I'll have a hard time getting the point to you.I don't get sleep paralysis, but my friend/former roommate does. He's told me all about it. Your story sounds exactly like what he experiences. Do I need to provide another one of my experience's with you? One that I was wide awake for and could move and got rid of (sort of)?When you are in a room or any were and a demon (Or how you guys like it called ghost) is in the area you know. There presents let you know. You mainly get scared or get the feeling you want to leave that area right now or both or possibly more. If your like 85% or more of the world you'll just think I'm a freak and needs to go to a psycho place. Thats what the world more or less does with people who do have these.......expreences (Spelling not coming to me)Again, what's the more logical conclusion: you were in a well-known, and quite common state known as sleep paralysis where hallucinations and a sense of fear are common, or a supernatural phenomenon occurred that breaks all of the laws of physics? It appears I do need to give another one. If you'll hear it then I'll give it.
Some times demons (Ghosts) and logic do not mix so if your a person who thinks logic is every thing let me know because then I'm speaking pointlessly to you.If it's not logical, why would you think it's so? Logic is the very basis of human understanding. Here's a bullsh** example for you: My carpet is brown. Therefore all carpet must be brown. That conclusion isn't logical, and thus, is quite a stupid conclusion to make.
For one of them my cat saw, staring at this one spot...... at what seemed to be nothing for me and the rest of the family. But he was freaked to the point were he would not move at all. I picked him up and moved him and he kept his eye's on the spot. I move him again into my room still staring at this one spot. I went to leave my room and found this spot and felt a cold spot right were he was looking at. the rest of the house was around 20 degrees and this one spot was very cold and only that spot. The spot was not near a window nor in the middle of the place. We got rid of it by praying to Christ and this spot slowly went back to normal and the cat went back to his normal behaver.Some times demons (Ghosts) and logic do not mix so if your a person who thinks logic is every thing let me know because then I'm speaking pointlessly to you.If it's not logical, why would you think it's so? Logic is the very basis of human understanding. Here's a bullsh** example for you: My carpet is brown. Therefore all carpet must be brown. That conclusion isn't logical, and thus, is quite a stupid conclusion to make. In that case be glad you don't go to school over here then, 90% or more think like that sadly.
Your conclusion is entirely irrational. First of all, you make the assumption that demons exist. You go on to assume that it was a demon who is guilty of shoving you into your bed, and not another person, alien, monster, vampire, bear, taco, Jesus, Evil Lincoln, etc. Those are two huge assumptions with little to no supporting evidence. However, sleep paralysis is something that has been studied, is known to occur, and is known to produce situations very similar to the one you shared. So my question now is, why do you maintain that it was a demon when more plausible explanations exist? I could give you one that was in the day not when I was sleeping.
Feel free to share your other encounter(s). I will do my best to analyze the situation and offer up a conclusion of my own, if possible. For the record, I don't feel as though you're a liar. I know you legitimately believe what you're saying. What I'm doing is providing you with possible explanations that can actually be backed by science and reasoning.
Hardly. The getting rid of it by praying makes it even more likely to just be psyhcological.
I don't dismiss anything that doesn't match logic straight away, I simply don't believe in ghost or demons because there is a very poor supporting case for both.Hardly. The getting rid of it by praying makes it even more likely to just be psyhcological.
Then explain why 4 beings all felt or saw it? I hardly doubt my entire family suddenly developed it right then and there. You seem to be one of those people that nothing is real or possible if it don't match logic right away.
Cold regions in housed can be described by the Coriolis effect.
Air is a fluid, like water. And, like water draining from the sink, it rotates in a anti-clockwise direction due to the earth rotating.
If you live in a warm house, and someone has entered the house within the last 2 hours and cold air got in, the overall temperature of the house will hardly change as the cold air rushed through the door. Since cool air has a higher density than warm air, it sinks toward the bottom the house.
If you have the right scenario, you could walk up the stairs and physically feel it getting warmer. If many people cam upstairs cool air would be dragged up with them, since the distilling effect isn't that strong. The cool air will rise slowly and then settle normally, but if he house is of a awkward shape, like if furniture is about the place. It will form a pocket of cool air, rotation in an anti-clockwise direction as it slowly descends at a very slow rate.
Next point
Felines can see into the Ultra-violet (that how lions hunt at night) and if this floating pocket of air is a rare occurrence in your house or you have a cat that has recently joined the house hold. The cat could see a space of Violet floating in the air, and the cat will not know what it is, so will look at it to make sure it isn't a threat. Since the pocket or cool air is rotating and descending, the cat would have been scared of its movement, so will be very still.
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You feel where the cat is looking and feel the cool air pocket and your brain cant think up a rational explanation so it must be a "demon" due to your religious upbringings. As you preyed for the "demon" to go away, as the pocket may have descended since, it would no longer be in the same place where it was before, so you think it is gone. The cat assumes it is not a threat and assumes normal behaviour.
PHEW!
One, the cat saw it. Two the spot was not on the ground it was in the air.Cats stare. That's what they do. Also, like humans, cats can only see visible light. They cannot see ultraviolet light, but rather have a membrane that reflects light back into the retina. If your room was well lit, your cat was actually at a disadvantage because this membrane causes cats to see worse than humans in light. Besides, a cat's vision maxes out at 2-3 feet in front of its face.
Three I just mentioned the spot to my mom and sis who in turn tested the spot. Then my mom said it was a demon. As for the praying part you'd have to be a Christan to really understand by what I met by praying. The worlds way of thinking will not understand it.Ah, so that's what this is about. You obviously come from a deeply religious family. Your mother's explanation for any odd phenomenon is "demons". She has clearly raised you to not question her judgment. But consider for a moment that it's not a demon and that there was just a cold spot in your house. We know that cold spots develop. On the other hand, we have no evidence that it was a demon in your house. What if it was the Holy Ghost keeping an eye on you? There's just as little evidence to support that as there is a demon.
One, the cat saw it. Two the spot was not on the ground it was in the air.Cats stare. That's what they do. Also, like humans, cats can only see visible light. They cannot see ultraviolet light, but rather have a membrane that reflects light back into the retina. If your room was well lit, your cat was actually at a disadvantage because this membrane causes cats to see worse than humans in light. Besides, a cat's vision maxes out at 2-3 feet in front of its face.
So basically, if your cat could see something, you should have been able to see it as well. You didn't, so why are you so certain that your cat did? As I said before I for one like to know how those around me behave including the family cat. And I'm very sure cats can see further than that. Other wise he is extremely good at tracking lazer light paths for starters.Three I just mentioned the spot to my mom and sis who in turn tested the spot. Then my mom said it was a demon. As for the praying part you'd have to be a Christan to really understand by what I met by praying. The worlds way of thinking will not understand it.Ah, so that's what this is about. You obviously come from a deeply religious family. Your mother's explanation for any odd phenomenon is "demons". She has clearly raised you to not question her judgment. But consider for a moment that it's not a demon and that there was just a cold spot in your house. We know that cold spots develop. On the other hand, we have no evidence that it was a demon in your house. What if it was the Holy Ghost keeping an eye on you? There's just as little evidence to support that as there is a demon.
The praying likely got rid of the problem the same way that placebos can cure diseases: you essentially tricked yourself into improvement. You desperately wanted to get rid of the unknown. Your mother provided an answer to the unknown. To you, she is a highly reputable source,Funny that you would say that. We can disagree so bad that I have punched her before while she was slapping me. so you accepted her answer. You were scared. She then provided the solution: praying. You prayed. No longer could the cold be felt anymore. Why? Before the praying, you were (maybe even subconsciously) looking for anything out of the ordinary. After the praying, you were looking for normalsy. It's really that simple.
As I've said before, this solution is testable. Yours relies on many assumptions and in no way can be tested. So, why believe it was a demon? Ain't all problems testable? Yes it is on assumptions thats how humans work. For all you know you could be talking to a computer thats giving these answers. How do you know your not? Other factors. Do all agree with some of these factors? No. The way I'v been brought up may seem......... religious but it also explains so other things for me as well. Science can't explain every thing. For one Its very depressing to think your nothing (note the "Nothing") more then a random chemical mix that is now some how living. But now I'm going off on a different topic all together there. The place is small and not much air flow. Yes these no evidence that I can say or you'll accept to prove it was a demon not a random air pocket.
I for one like to know how those around me behave including the family cat. And I'm very sure cats can see further than that. Other wise he is extremely good at tracking lazer light paths for starters.Cats can only clearly see up to about 3 feet. However, a cat's eye is great at sensing movement. That is why your cat can follow a laser pointer with ease. Besides, a laser is a light (Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation), and one does not need to see in detail to see the presence of a light.
Funny that you would say that. We can disagree so bad that I have punched her before while she was slapping me.That's quite a violent situation. Does this happen often?
Ain't all problems testable? Yes it is on assumptions thats how humans work.How does one test if it's a demon who was demon standing in your house? First, you would have to prove the existence of demons. Second, you would have to learn about the nature of demons, and how they operate. Then you'd have to find some sort of evidence that the demon was actually there. Something that rules out all other possible explanations. Thus far, you've provided no information that we haven't been able to easily explain without the use of the supernatural.
For all you know you could be talking to a computer thats giving these answers. How do you know your not?I don't know that I'm not talking to a computer, but I have been given no evidence to make me think that I am. However, there seems to be plenty of evidence to indicate that you are indeed a human. For instance, your consistently bad spelling/grammar. I've never seen a computer approximation that can match the "voice" of a person.
Other factors. Do all agree with some of these factors? No.Could you rephrase that? I'm not sure what you're saying, and I don't want to misrepresent your argument.
The way I'v been brought up may seem......... religious but it also explains so other things for me as well.If religion makes you happy, go for it. But it sounds like you're letting irrationality frighten you. If single-mindedness really bothers you, open up and consider other viewpoints. Consider for a moment that it's not a demon. Do the alternate explanations offered to you make sense?
Science can't explain every thing.True, science can't currently explain anything. Nothing can. It can, however, explain your "encounters".
For one Its very depressing to think your nothing (note the "Nothing") more then a random chemical mix that is now some how living.Why is that depressing? Must there be a plan for your relationships to be meaningful? Must your destiny be preplanned by a space tyrant for you to be happy, and help others be happy?
But now I'm going off on a different topic all together there. The place is small and not much air flow. Yes these no evidence that I can say or you'll accept to prove it was a demon not a random air pocket.It doesn't matter how small of a room it is. Even in a hot oven, cold pockets form. (This is why it's advised to rotate your dish halfway through the bake cycle.) It's not because a demon is standing in the oven; it's because of physics.
Respect the supernatural.No. If it can be proven, it's not supernatural; it's natural. If there's no proof, there's no puddin'.
Respect the supernatural.No. If it can be proven, it's not supernatural; it's natural. If there's no proof, there's no puddin'.
Respect the supernatural.No. If it can be proven, it's not supernatural; it's natural. If there's no proof, there's no puddin'.
Supernatural or normal natural is just terminology. I thought exactly the same as you, until I met my friend's ghost. I know you won't believe until you interact with one, but whatever.
The really surprising thing, though, was the movies weren't far off. I mean "it" didn't float or make angry faces, but it was definitely transparent and stood in random spots, sometimes making this odd sound, or, this one time, appearing behind me (freaked the sh** out of me), grabbing my wallet from my back pocket, emptying it, and chucking it across the room. When I retrieved my wallet, there was an ancient looking business card stuck in a pocket. The name was completely faced out, but apparently he was some sort of medicine man. We think his "soul" or whatever you want to call it stayed behind at the regret of accidentally killing a patient or something. That's our theory at least. Have yet to get him to talk yet, though... >.>
Supernatural or normal natural is just terminology. I thought exactly the same as you, until I met my friend's ghost. I know you won't believe until you interact with one, but whatever.(http://crujonessociety.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/ghost.jpg)
The really surprising thing, though, was the movies weren't far off. I mean "it" didn't float or make angry faces, but it was definitely transparent and stood in random spots, sometimes making this odd sound, or, this one time, appearing behind me (freaked the sh** out of me), grabbing my wallet from my back pocket, emptying it, and chucking it across the room. When I retrieved my wallet, there was an ancient looking business card stuck in a pocket. The name was completely faced out, but apparently he was some sort of medicine man. We think his "soul" or whatever you want to call it stayed behind at the regret of accidentally killing a patient or something. That's our theory at least. Have yet to get him to talk yet, though... >.>
No, that's Bill CosbyIf your ghost isn't Ghost Dad, it's not real.
Respect the supernatural.
Ouija boards are bull.
Sage, you are smarter than that. Please stop trying to get attention in such an awful way !
You think I'm attention whoring? >.>I get the impression that you're trolling.
What's wrong with Sage's story? It's entirely plausible that he experienced it.Aside from breaking the laws of physics? Well, nothing. That's a pretty big factor to ignore, though.
If a person has a spiritual experience, he is pretty irrational to still believe that ghost does not existing.It's irrational to assume ghosts when other more plausible explanations exist.
Someone's "experience" cannot break the law of physics.What's wrong with Sage's story? It's entirely plausible that he experienced it.Aside from breaking the laws of physics? Well, nothing. That's a pretty big factor to ignore, though.
And what makes denying some experiences in favor of others more "plausible"? Where's does the rational process fits into this?If a person has a spiritual experience, he is pretty irrational to still believe that ghost does not existing.It's irrational to assume ghosts when other more plausible explanations exist.
If Sage isn't just trolling, I demand some photos/video. Cameras work essentially the same way as the human eye, so if you can see it, so can the camera.
Thanks 123.Photo/video evidence would get us much closer to proving your claim. By the way, come up with a way to prove the existence of ghosts and you'll get a million dollars. http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html (http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html)
Like I said, seeing is believing. The inherent difference with the human eye vs the camera eye is that the human can't record what it sees and edit it to show other people. The moment i posted video proof (if that were even possible) you would claim editing and tampering with the footage. The probability of recording a live stream during one of the few times I actually encounter him (the ghost) is about as probable as you ever believing me.
I have a little cousin who is young (won't go into details) and has had a few encounters with ghosts.He's a ****ing kid! Kids talk to things that aren't there all the ****ing time! Ever hear of imaginary friends? The kid sees the "friend" and interacts with the "friend", but there's nobody there. It's all in the kid's head.
The one that sticks out for me is that he was at the town store (small town, small store, kind of like a convenience store) and he walked back to his grandma (who he lives with) and said that "the man with the dark eyes wouldn't let him talk to the boy". No details or anything. His grandma (my aunt) didn't see anyone, and didn't think much of it. Not sure how much later, but after a period of days, they are in the store again and he points to a picture of a man who died decades ago. He said that it was the man that wouldn't let him talk to the boy. My mom thinks that the boy was a 9 year old kid who died of leukemia when my mom was young, but its just a guess.
I have a little cousin who is young (won't go into details) and has had a few encounters with ghosts.He's a ****ing kid! Kids talk to things that aren't there all the ****ing time! Ever hear of imaginary friends? The kid sees the "friend" and interacts with the "friend", but there's nobody there. It's all in the kid's head.
The one that sticks out for me is that he was at the town store (small town, small store, kind of like a convenience store) and he walked back to his grandma (who he lives with) and said that "the man with the dark eyes wouldn't let him talk to the boy". No details or anything. His grandma (my aunt) didn't see anyone, and didn't think much of it. Not sure how much later, but after a period of days, they are in the store again and he points to a picture of a man who died decades ago. He said that it was the man that wouldn't let him talk to the boy. My mom thinks that the boy was a 9 year old kid who died of leukemia when my mom was young, but its just a guess.
I talked to stuffed animals. This kid was probably talking to the picture itself. Did the picture respond back? No, because it's a ****ing picture.
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...
DAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
EDIT: Damnit Llopp that was my daww!
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...I knew it, you haz a room filled with teddy bears :p
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...I knew it, you haz a room filled with teddy bears :p
But yeah, the kid was probably talking to the picture.
And stop spamming that picture now lloop, you're killing it.
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...
D'aaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :gawe:
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...
DAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
EDIT: Damnit Llopp that was my daww!
Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...
D'aaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :gawe:Hey, I did as well. Well, more like plush toys but still...
DAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
EDIT: Damnit Llopp that was my daww!
shut up noobs
@Scorpion : I HAD. But it was 6 years ago.
I both believe in them and have had experiences with them
I both believe in them and have had experiences with themProve that you've experienced them.
I didn't know you are black.I once had a ghost haunting me.
One day i woke up and went to the bathroom and a black figure was in my mirror.
A month later i woke up in the middle of the night and my T.V was on. I grabbed my remote and clicked the power button 5 times, it wouldn't turn off. So i got and manually pressed the power button on the T.V and it still wouldn't turn off!
A couple of days later i was playing my Dragon Ball Z game and my room went black for a split second but the power wasn't out because the downstairs light was still on. A couple minutes later these papers that i had hung up ripped off the wall. I wasn't near them and my fan was off.
The next night i had a dream where a little man with a white mask, pitch-black eyes, and red puffy hair with a chainsaw was chasing people then a filing cabinet opened up and body parts were in it. At the end of the dream he said "You can't hide from me, i know where you are."
The next day i was on my way to Tae-Kwon-Do and i saw a woman walking towards me from the corner of my eye i turned and there was a front of a bus. The next day i was walking to school and i saw a man running towards me i turned and my friends head was there, also a man was meditating around candles. The men and the woman all had gold chains with a cross around there necks.
That is the story of my ghost.
I once had a ghost haunting me.How do you know it was a ghost?
One day i woke up and went to the bathroom and a black figure was in my mirror.Two things come to mind: Your sleep was interrupted and hallucinated the thing. =or= You saw yourself in low-light conditions and your tired brain threw out an irrational explanation.
A month later i woke up in the middle of the night and my T.V was on. I grabbed my remote and clicked the power button 5 times, it wouldn't turn off. So i got and manually pressed the power button on the T.V and it still wouldn't turn off!Do you ever read the fine print on your electronic devices? Electronic devices easily receive interference, and are legally required to. A far more rational explanation to your TV problem is that the TV was malfunctioning. They're known to do this. Ghosts, however, aren't known to exist.
A couple of days later i was playing my Dragon Ball Z game and my room went black for a split second but the power wasn't out because the downstairs light was still on.Lights flicker. Just because there was a disruption in your lights, that doesn't mean that the electricity to the whole house was cut off.
A couple minutes later these papers that i had hung up ripped off the wall. I wasn't near them and my fan was off.What do you mean by "ripped off"? Were they torn? What method of adhesion did you use? (Poster putty, tape, push pins, nails, other?)
The next night i had a dream where a little man with a white mask, pitch-black eyes, and red puffy hair with a chainsaw was chasing people then a filing cabinet opened up and body parts were in it. At the end of the dream he said "You can't hide from me, i know where you are."That's called a nightmare. We all get them from time-to-time. When I was younger, my nightmares generally involved monsters or other such ghouls. These days, my nightmares typically involve the death of loved ones. Nightmares reflect what you're afraid of. You seem to fear ghosts and other typical horror movie subjects. I fear losing people close to me.
The next day i was on my way to Tae-Kwon-Do and i saw a woman walking towards me from the corner of my eye i turned and there was a front of a bus.Was it a ghost bus? I don't really see how this relates to anything. Peripheral vision doesn't really see details. It essentially sees the existence of objects and general color.
The next day i was walking to school and i saw a man running towards me i turned and my friends head was there, also a man was meditating around candles. The men and the woman all had gold chains with a cross around there necks.By now you should realize that you're seeing the existence of objects in your peripherals, and your imagination is filling in the wrong details.
That is the story of my ghost.I didn't even have to put much thought into providing rational explanations for all of your encounters. Remember, just because you can't explain what happened, that doesn't mean something supernatural caused it. There is most likely a rational explanation. Until such an explanation can be found, admitting that you don't know what happened is perfectly acceptable.
Remember, just because you can't explain what happened, that doesn't mean something supernatural caused it. There is most likely a rational explanation. Until such an explanation can be found, admitting that you don't know what happened is perfectly acceptable.
You all raise good points, but isn't everyone entitled to their own views n stuff? :gawe:Yes they are, and I'm expressing mine. =]
That's goodYou all raise good points, but isn't everyone entitled to their own views n stuff? :gawe:Yes they are, and I'm expressing mine. =]
How do your hands work the keyboard? I mean, ghosts are intangible :gawe:And surely you would simply sink through the floor, by the same logic?
Ghosts floatHow do your hands work the keyboard? I mean, ghosts are intangible :gawe:And surely you would simply sink through the floor, by the same logic?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRB8Jor8tPs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRB8Jor8tPs#ws)Korosh**e ageru
How do your hands work the keyboard? I mean, ghosts are intangible :gawe:I'm haunting some poor college kid's laptop and manipulating it with my ghost powers.
Ghosts don't have powersHow do you know?
Except it's not. I'm a ghost, so I should know. :mrgreen:So a ghost pony with a thing for cupcakes? Now I've seen everything :cool:
Instead of Nearly Headless Nick, we have Mildly Sugared Meganerdbomb.Except it's not. I'm a ghost, so I should know. :mrgreen:So a ghost pony with a thing for cupcakes? Now I've seen everything :cool: