RedAce vs Thrackerzod (RedAce Wins)

[Naryar]

>no wedges
>enters a popup

it's the second time this happens with thrackerzod, no ?

this is retarded. i know context doesn't translate well on the internet but no wedges means no wedges, by that no bots with component wedges AND no bots with chassis wedges.

simple logic : a chassis wedge is a wedge (it's in the name). this challenge says no wedges. why would you enter a wedge ?

by "no wedges" we implicitely mean "no bots that are specifically designed to go under a bot", because that's what wedges do.

[Thrackerzod]

While of course, now I see the mistake, generally on this site "wedge" means "burst motor plus extenders plus small wedge" or the equivalent in whatever mod you're playing.

Exhibit A: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18511.0
Exhibit B: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=702.msg671820#msg671820
Exhibit C: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=4978.msg687969#msg687969

Overall, I think it was a reasonable mistake to make.  However, I should have recognized the potential for miscommunication and clarified the rules before making the thread.

[Naryar]

no one uses chassis wedges anymore except in IRL or Stock LW popups, so of course "wedge" means "component wedge" in most cases. but that doesn't mean it does not mean "chassis wedge" as well

https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge

https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge_(robot_type)

https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge_designs

arguably "wedge" can mean a lot of things, which is confusing:

-a chassis wedge
-a component wedge
-a bot type which is basically just a wedged chassis with no weapons : see stock Ronin

still, it's basically the same thing (something that wedges under the other bot and tries to go under it), so that's why we call all of those things a wedge.

[yugitom]

As always with rules, we have to determine the reason for the rule. I think it's safe to assume the reason the rule was in place was to prevent wedge wars or, on the same lines, a robot winning just because he got under the other. Thracker still succeeded in this, so I think the correct way of interpreting the rule would be for Thracker's bot to be illegal.

[090901]

thrackerzod i dare you to make a vs with small wedges on the tribe bar instead of actual weapons do it

[09090901]

rematch is up, trying out bandicam. somehow the timer got cut off (last video was done with nvidia shadowplay).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzqFmSkgAc&feature=youtu.be

Redace wins 2-1, not sage gets 1 KOplease enter the cauldron

[WeN]

Great match!

[RedAce]

Thanks again for doing this rematch for us Geice.

I thought I was doomed when you cloned butt for this match, but Constructor really got around to the drive and took it off.

Good game Thrackerzod.  Sorry about the first match shenanigans.

[Naryar]

i am pleasantly surprised by the outcome of this match

[Thrackerzod]

Hey, well, I tried.

The sad thing is that this was the 3rd version of Salty Sailer.

Good jorb dude.

Thanks for hosting,  Geice!