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Robot Arena Matches => Challenge Board => Topic started by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 10:05:02 AM

Title: RedAce vs Thrackerzod (RedAce Wins)
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 10:05:02 AM
Red "I've rebuilt the Stock bots 300 times" Ace vs Thracker "I named myself after a horse" zod
(but that was too long to be the title)

Stock LW
No wedges
Ring arena
Best of 3
Host is Geice

(eco we'll do our dsl match as soon as this one's done if you're interested)
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: 09090901 on March 22, 2016, 02:12:39 PM
got thracker's bot
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: ecolusian on March 22, 2016, 02:23:06 PM
sure! just so i can test my dsl skill, gotta be good enough for nar AI ya'know
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: RedAce on March 22, 2016, 02:56:53 PM
Sent my bot.  If you still don't mind me skinning the Ring Arena to look like a wrestling ring, then I can still do it for ya.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: 09090901 on March 22, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
i've already started recording, but you can send it if you want
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: RedAce on March 22, 2016, 03:21:58 PM
i've already started recording, but you can send it if you want
In that case, then there's really no point then.  Thanks though.

Good luck Thrackerzod.  May the best man win.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 03:31:30 PM
If you still don't mind me skinning the Ring Arena to look like a wrestling ring, then I can still do it for ya.

Rival Rumble's gonna be in the Ring Arena so, if you want to reskin it, I'd love to have it.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: 09090901 on March 22, 2016, 05:24:27 PM
Apologies for the random lag and stuttering.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8zt30_Cwa0&feature=youtu.be# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8zt30_Cwa0&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 05:33:41 PM
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Silverfish on March 22, 2016, 05:38:22 PM
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: RedAce on March 22, 2016, 05:41:00 PM
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Reier on March 22, 2016, 05:42:35 PM
i love asymmetric bots
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 05:44:07 PM

Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: RedAce on March 22, 2016, 06:09:04 PM
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 06:10:50 PM

Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: 09090901 on March 22, 2016, 06:16:17 PM

I'm open to re-hosting if you guys want
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 06:19:20 PM
Okay, well then I'll have to actually build something for this.  I might be a bit.  I was gonna use Glenn, but he keeps getting hung up on the arena wall and I donno why.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: yugitom on March 22, 2016, 10:29:32 PM
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 22, 2016, 10:42:52 PM
I don't think Geice is at fault here, as my bot did fit a particular interpretation of the rules as given.  RedAce and I should have done a better job clarifying the rules though.

At least Myre Jynk did pretty good in its debut match.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Badger on March 23, 2016, 04:08:10 AM
Okay, well then I'll have to actually build something for this.  I might be a bit.  I was gonna use Glenn, but he keeps getting hung up on the arena wall and I donno why.
You tried increasing the radius value in the bindings?
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Naryar on March 23, 2016, 07:20:39 AM
>no wedges
>enters a popup

it's the second time this happens with thrackerzod, no ?

this is retarded. i know context doesn't translate well on the internet but no wedges means no wedges, by that no bots with component wedges AND no bots with chassis wedges.

simple logic : a chassis wedge is a wedge (it's in the name). this challenge says no wedges. why would you enter a wedge ?

by "no wedges" we implicitely mean "no bots that are specifically designed to go under a bot", because that's what wedges do.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 23, 2016, 09:11:27 AM
While of course, now I see the mistake, generally on this site "wedge" means "burst motor plus extenders plus small wedge" or the equivalent in whatever mod you're playing.

Exhibit A: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18511.0 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=18511.0)
Exhibit B: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=702.msg671820#msg671820 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=702.msg671820#msg671820)
Exhibit C: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=4978.msg687969#msg687969 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=4978.msg687969#msg687969)

Overall, I think it was a reasonable mistake to make.  However, I should have recognized the potential for miscommunication and clarified the rules before making the thread.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Naryar on March 23, 2016, 09:30:45 AM
no one uses chassis wedges anymore except in IRL or Stock LW popups, so of course "wedge" means "component wedge" in most cases. but that doesn't mean it does not mean "chassis wedge" as well

https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge)

https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge_(robot_type) (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge_(robot_type))

https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge_designs (https://wiki.gametechmods.com/index.php?title=Wedge_designs)

arguably "wedge" can mean a lot of things, which is confusing:

-a chassis wedge
-a component wedge
-a bot type which is basically just a wedged chassis with no weapons : see stock Ronin

still, it's basically the same thing (something that wedges under the other bot and tries to go under it), so that's why we call all of those things a wedge.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: yugitom on March 23, 2016, 10:02:48 AM
As always with rules, we have to determine the reason for the rule. I think it's safe to assume the reason the rule was in place was to prevent wedge wars or, on the same lines, a robot winning just because he got under the other. Thracker still succeeded in this, so I think the correct way of interpreting the rule would be for Thracker's bot to be illegal.
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: 090901 on March 23, 2016, 09:18:53 PM
thrackerzod i dare you to make a vs with small wedges on the tribe bar instead of actual weapons do it
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: 09090901 on March 27, 2016, 12:18:51 AM
rematch is up, trying out bandicam. somehow the timer got cut off (last video was done with nvidia shadowplay).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzqFmSkgAc&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzqFmSkgAc&feature=youtu.be#)
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: WeN on March 27, 2016, 12:34:45 AM
Great match!
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: RedAce on March 27, 2016, 05:08:42 AM
Thanks again for doing this rematch for us Geice.

Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Naryar on March 27, 2016, 05:46:59 AM
i am pleasantly surprised by the outcome of this match
Title: Re: RedAce vs Thrackerzod Stock LW Match
Post by: Thrackerzod on March 27, 2016, 06:41:27 AM

Thanks for hosting,  Geice!