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Title: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on July 14, 2011, 10:21:35 PM
NO, THIS IS NOT A HOAX. Hax Mode is actually a real glitch that has somehow remained hidden from public use for all of these years (the Bigfoot of RA2, if you will). During the delay between the release of Hax Mode and now, Sage, Scrap Daddy and myself have been working to find out as much about Hax Mode as we can before we shared our findings with you, the community. Now, we've gathered enough information on Hax Mode to compile this guide and help you in your exploration of this powerful, new glitch. We urge you to CAREFULLY READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS POST before you begin experimenting with Hax Mode.
 
 
 
1. HOW TO ACTIVATE HAX MODE:
 
 
   1.1 - Prerequisite Skills:
 
In order activate Hax Mode, you will need to know how to Snapper Load. Sage has a tutorial here: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4512.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,4512.0.html)
This skill will come in extremely handy, as it is key to entering Hax Mode.
 
 
   1.2 - The Basic Ingredients:
     
Because of the limits of superstacking (more on these later), you will carefully need to plan out your chassis as you would for any other bot. The only components that you will need to activate Hax Mode are a Burst Piston of any length, a RAD Motor, a Control Board, and another kinetic component, like an Axle Mount.
 
 
   1.3 - Activating Hax Mode:
 
Your Burst Piston may be mounted in any fashion (internally, on a baseplate anchor, on a Snapper, etc.), however we recommend that you mount it INSIDE the chassis. Attach the RAD Motor onto the end of the Burst Piston, and you're ready to go.
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/22754haxmodeguide01.png)
 

The process is actually pretty simple. All you need to do is Snapper Load the Burst Piston. Once the inner part of the piston has left the viewing screen, it will not return to its base. You are completely free to fire the piston, turn the RAD on and off and attach more motors.
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/3399haxmodeguide02.png)
 

Once you can no longer see the piston with the RAD, attach ANOTHER component with an axle. It can be anything from the "Mechanics" tab, or an Axle Mount. We recommend an Axle Mount because it is much easier to fit in a tight space.
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/76261haxmodeguide03.png)
 

After the component with an axle is attached, fire the burst piston. Congratulations! You have now entered Hax Mode!
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/49560haxmodeguide04.png)
 
 
 
2. LIMITS OF HAX MODE:
 
Through extensive testing, we've found that Hax Mode isn't as easy as it looks, nor is it completely guaranteed to work. IT IS NOT NEARLY AS POWERFUL AS BOT FILE EDITING (BFE), as it will NOT allow you to stack any component anywhere you want at any time. These are the pitfalls, retrictions and limitations of Hax Mode.
 
 
   2.1 - The Soft Rule of 8... or 9:
 
One of the very first obstacles that you will run into is a limit of components that you can superstack. We believe that this limit is about 8 or 9 STATIC baseplate components (for example, anything in the power tab). This limit is not restricted to components that are superstacked in the same place. When this limit is passed, Hax Mode will simply not work until a baseplate component is removed.
 
For example, in the picture below 9 static components were attached to the baseplate (Control Board, Black Battery, Pink Battery, Big Airtank, Small Airtank, 4 Nifty Batteries) before RA2 would not allow any more static components to be superstacked:
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/16519haxmodeguide05.png)
 
          
 EDIT: By pressing the pause/break button, you will be able to pretty much superstack however many static components as you like. Credit Urjak for this discovery.
 
 
   2.2 - Superstacking Axles:
 
Quite simply, YOU CANNOT SUPERSTACK AXLES. There are ways around this however, as removing the axles from the motors will allow them to stack. When building Godmode, Sage had to systematically remove each individual axle from each HPZtek in order to make them stack; a long and tedious process. How do you remove the axles? That is entirely up to you, but there are many other well-known glitches that will allow you to do this.
 
EDIT: Pressing the pause/break button will allow axles to be stacked as well, although it is unclear if this lets you superstack an unlimited amount of motors. Credit Urjak for the discovery.

 
   2.3 - The Necro Glitch:
 
As cool as this sounds, it's a glitch that you want absolutely no part of. It occurs when the RAD with the inner part of the piston never returns to the body of the piston, even after entering and exiting the Test Garage. Since the piston never returns, it can't be detached, rendering the robot absolutely useless. In other words, a dead, or necro, chassis.
 
 
   2.4 - Other Odds and Ends:
 
Much like ordinary stacking, superstacking seems to only work in certain (albeit the majority of) places on the baseplate, and is not guaranteed to work exactly where you want. For example, you may be able to superstack two black batteries in one spot, but two other batteries may not superstack directly beside it.
 
Certain superstacks, like HPZteks or DDTs that are slightly overlapped, work very much the same way as stacking a pair of black batteries, as in they're difficult and they require a high level of precision to achieve. In this case, Hax Mode doesn't "help" you with this stack as much as it merely makes it possible.
 
While Hax Mode does allow you to exostack components, they may not exostack all around the chassis. For example, Black batteries may only exostack in one certain corner of the chassis. No matter what, Hax Mode DOES NOT allow you to exostack anything out of the top of the chassis.
 
Superstacks with motors may only work for a short period of time and only once per position. The following pictures offer a clearer explanation:
 
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/59846haxmodeguide06.png)
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/62537haxmodeguide07.png)
 
In the first picture, Hax Mode allows the HPZtek to be superstacked in the Black Battery. However in the second picture, the HPZtek was moved back outside of the battery, so it will no longer superstack. At this point, get a new HPZtek and try again.
 
 
 
3. HAX MODE AND THE COMMUNITY:
 
We'll readily admit to not fully understanding Hax Mode, but we've compiled this guide to help you along in your exploration of this glitch. Now, we're seeking your input and findings to help us gather enough information so we as a community can make the correct desicion on whether or not we will accept Hax Mode as a completely legal glitch, allow it while imposing regulations on its use, or ban its use entirely.
 
 
   3.1 - The Action Plan:
 
For now, we don't think that we've done enough testing to make a definitive call on the legality of Hax Mode, and quite frankly, we have absolutely no idea what you guys are going to do with this glitch. We need your help in testing the limits and boundaries that we've outlined for you already. Don't take any limits that we've outlined as absolute truths, and please try to find ways around them. This is your chance to abuse the absolute heck of Hax Mode. In fact, we welcome people proving our findings wrong. ALL new pieces of information will ultimately contribute towards answering the final question of Hax Mode: is it legal?
 
 
   3.2 - Ground Rules:
 
We do, however, feel the need to have one rule about the use of Hax Mode. DO NOT USE IT TO EXOSTACK BATTERIES. We should all agree that having invincible battery armour is not in the spirit of the game and is a massively overpowered use of this glitch.

We also believe that Hax Mode should be deemed ILLEGAL for use in tournaments until we have thoroughly tested it. In other words, illegal until proven legal.

We may add more imposed restrictions to this section as our exploration of Hax Mode reveals more details. We'll see.
 
 
   3.3 - Going Forward:
 
 The ultimate purpose of this excersize is to gather enough information on Hax Mode so that we can decide whether or not to accept it as a legal glitch. We (the community) will experiment and build with it, relatively unrestricted for now and make the desicion when we feel that we've gathered enough information. It might take a week, it might take a month. We don't know. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
 
 
   3.4 - What YOU Can Do: 
 
We're going to make this as clear as possible: WE DO NOT WANT YOUR OPINIONS ON HOW LEGAL OR ILLEGAL HAX MODE IS. Right now, we're just exploring the nature and extent of the glitch, not making descisions. What we want from you are not only what new aspects of the glitch you find and discover yourselves, but we also want to see how you use Hax Mode in your day-to-day robot building. Even if we discover nothing new about the glitch, we still desperately need to see how the community is going to use it. We will start up a Hax Mode Showcase where you can show us what you can do.
 
 
 
4. FAQ:
 
We don't want to be endlessly answering your questions, which is why we've made this guide as detailed as we can. Hopefully, this section can also address any more problems or quandries you could run into.
 
 
   4.1 - "Hax Mode isn't working. What's wrong?"
 
First of all, re-read the step-by-step instructions above. We've made this section as detailed as we can, and chances are, you're just forgetting to do something. Check if you've wired your piston to fire, make sure that the piston will not return to its body when the RAD is on, and remember to add an axle of some kind before you try to superstack. If none of these solve your problem, we have no idea what is wrong for you. Sorry :(
 
 
   4.2 - "I'm building this sweet bot and I need to superstack some batteries, but it won't let me. Why?"
 
You've probably run into the Soft Rule of 8-ish components. Try removing some motors or batteries or other baseplate components that DO NOT need to be superstacked and try again.
 
 
   4.3 - "I wanna build a Godmode clone, but why can't I stack my HPZteks like Sage did?"
 
No one ever said that Hax Mode was easy to use, in fact Sage has said that Godmode was incredibly annoying to build. In order to stack HPZteks or any other motors, the axles must be removed. Even then, superstacking motors can be difficult as it may work only one time in one particular spot. If you miss your one-time shot, just get a new motor and try again.


   4.4 - "I've built this awesome bot, so where should I post it?"
 
We will start a Hax Mode Showcase in the Stock Showcase section so you can post your creations there. We're doing this for two reasons, the first being that it's easier for all of us if we don't have to wade through pages and pages of multiple showcases to find the bots that we want to look at, and the second is that we technically haven't legalized Hax Mode yet. Consequently, we'd like to keep the possilby illegal bots seperate from all of the other stuff that everybody has built.
 
 
  4.6 - "So why did it take so long for you to release Hax Mode to the public?"
 
At first we were worried about the consequences of teaching everybody do-it-yourself BFE within the botlab, however these fears were put to rest soon after we really started testing Hax Mode out. At that point, it was only a matter of time until we released it to the public. During this period, we debated how we should release it, set out a plan of action, and compiled this guide to help you guys help us in analyzing this glitch. We just feel that this glitch deserves a different treatment than something like snapper loading because we don't know just how powerful it can be.

 
   4.7 - "Scrap and Sage, why did you jerks tell R0B0 how to Hax Mode and not me?? ELITIST PIGS!"
 
Just to be clear, neither Scrap nor Sage told me how to superstack. I figured it out on my own using clues from the original thread. When I did, I approached Sage with what I'd found. He informed me that yes, I had discovered the correct method. I then worked with Scrap and Sage to compile this guide for you guys.
 

   4.8 - "I didn't see any pistons and stuff in Sage's video. How'd he make that?"
 
A subtle combination of BS and magic-beardery. Actually, he just made the Burst Piston and RAD invisible and hid their collision meshes underneath the control board out the bottom of the bot. Him saying "Hax Mode... ACTIVATE"? Total crap.
 
 
5. CONCLUSION:
 
And there you are, this is everything that we know about Hax Mode. Everything. We may be wrong with some things, and bang on with others, but truthfully, we have no idea. We need your help to find out the exact nature of Hax Mode, whether it's too overpowered for legal use in Stock, or if it's fair enough to be considered on the same level as snapper loading an the like. Please keep this thread for discussions regarding the nature of Hax Mode only. General discussion regarding this gitch should remain in the original Hax Mode thread, and showcased bots using Hax Mode should be kept within the Hax Mode Showcase in the Stock Showcase section. Please follow these guidelines as it will make everybody's life easier.
 
 
 
HAPPY BUILDING  :D
Credits:
Discovery of Hax Mode and general awesomeness - Scrap Daddy
Consructing God(mode), harvesting info and having a magic beard - Sage
Compiling and writing this guide... and that's pretty much it - R0B0SH4RK
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: 090901 on July 14, 2011, 10:32:40 PM
kewl
MUST MAKE MAX MODS TOURNEY AFTER BON
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Urjak on July 14, 2011, 10:36:35 PM
An odd thing I found is that in my game, shifting the bot view while attaching a motor exits out of hax mode for that specific motor. I have to cancel out of attachment mode and go back in for it to work. This might be for all components.

EDIT: Not consistent. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Urjak on July 14, 2011, 10:47:12 PM
DP:

I think I cracked the soft stack rule. If you use pause break you can just keep stacking.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 14, 2011, 10:51:13 PM
DP:

I think I cracked the soft stack rule. If you use pause break you can just keep stacking.

How many can you do? unlimited?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Urjak on July 14, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
DP:

I think I cracked the soft stack rule. If you use pause break you can just keep stacking.

How many can you do? unlimited?


Pretty much, I can also break the axle rule using it. I stacked like 7 z-techs in the same configuration God Mode had one right after the other. No need to remove the axle.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 14, 2011, 10:55:26 PM
Damn, I wish I had a Pause button.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on July 14, 2011, 10:58:08 PM
:O
 
Nice find Urjak. Can't believe we didn't try pressing pause xD
 
But I only got 4 HPZs to superstack. Can you post some pics?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: System32 on July 14, 2011, 11:02:22 PM
I think the time limit is pretty odd.
 
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Urjak on July 14, 2011, 11:05:40 PM
You guys wouldn't by chance be able to point me to the UHW maker. That way I can really max out my stacking.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Urjak on July 14, 2011, 11:16:55 PM
Never mind, I found it. Here is an ultra-more-than-8-or-9-component stack:

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/88033Cool.JPG)

It still a little finicky, and not always consistent. I am working on finding out all the little odds and ends. The z-tech stack is particularly finicky, though my record was 9 Z-techs, one right after the other.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: System32 on July 14, 2011, 11:20:01 PM
Try a stack through the bottom.
(I'll be ready to play on the 21st. PC problems.)
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Virus Bomb on July 14, 2011, 11:26:55 PM
well i just got 11 zteks to stack, if that's anything special.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: kill343gs on July 14, 2011, 11:40:53 PM
YAY robo has my old UI
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Meganerdbomb on July 14, 2011, 11:43:23 PM
Huh, so it was real, and Roboshark was just paying dumb this whole time....
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 14, 2011, 11:51:24 PM
Yes, it is real. Thanks for all the hackusations >.>

Kidding. Enjoy!
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: 090901 on July 14, 2011, 11:52:59 PM
lol it's fun to use
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: DuckRA2 on July 15, 2011, 12:07:42 AM
I wonder if some weird glitch I ran into a while back has something to do with this.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Thyrus on July 15, 2011, 12:30:49 AM
Damn, I wish I had a Pause button.

I guess you use a laptop? fn + pause activates the pausemode IIRC
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on July 15, 2011, 01:35:08 AM
Anyone tried this in DSL? I assume it's the same principle.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: geese on July 15, 2011, 03:53:13 AM
Couldn't you fix the necro glitch by pausing, going to the garage, and then back? I had a similar issue trying to build a 36 HS of a piston and this would usually remedy it.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Jack Daniels on July 15, 2011, 04:07:20 AM
Well this is a lovely thread to wake up to.

Thank you Robo, Sage, Scrap & the community that supports this.  I think this will be an exciting step in a new direction with Stock.

The most exciting part about this for me is I can finally make a bot that uses Airtanks without having a super large chassis.  That always irked me.

Well done with the writeup and research.  This is huge.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on July 15, 2011, 04:19:15 AM
Woah.. I was a lot closer then I thought to getting it to work..  (before this topic obviously)
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: yoda9726 on July 15, 2011, 05:11:25 AM
Anyone tried this in DSL? I assume it's the same principle.

It does work in DSL, Confirmed, but don't know how much you can do.  Didn't have much time to play around with it, but did manage to stack about 40 ant batteries.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 15, 2011, 05:59:21 AM
I find it works much easier if you use the Pause button before you attach anything, and if you attach any kinetic parts - motors, pistons, axle mounts, etc. - if you attach those last.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: RpJk on July 15, 2011, 06:59:37 AM
After you have done Hax Mode can you remove the piston and the RAD or is that essential?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Enigm@ on July 15, 2011, 07:38:23 AM
Damn, I wish I had a Pause button.

I guess you use a laptop? fn + pause activates the pausemode IIRC
I use my lappy for RA2, and it has a pause button.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: RpJk on July 15, 2011, 08:09:01 AM
Do you need the Snapper II :question:
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Somebody on July 15, 2011, 08:10:04 AM
Couldn't you fix the necro glitch by pausing, going to the garage, and then back? I had a similar issue trying to build a 36 HS of a piston and this would usually remedy it.

Yes I had this issue a long time ago in DSL as well (my old piston flipper way back in my showcase). To get anything back on the bot before it flies away, you need to go into the practice garage, press pause, and then click back to the components tab. Remove the component without pressing pause and you're all set. I'm off to go necro a bot and see if it works.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Somebody on July 15, 2011, 08:30:49 AM
Ok I found something new. I couldn't get a bot to necro but I found something else in the process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwOAG1_99sQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwOAG1_99sQ#)

I found that The RAD can be selected by clicking anywhere in the chassis (except for on another component, just all open spaces) and also removed if you click remove. Sometimes it does it on other components too (haven't tested it enough to know one way or the other). If you activate the motor out in space, it stops colliding (you can't click it anymore)until you change tabs. After I change tabs in the video, I remove it.

Oh, and the fade is skipping the axle loading. I removed the other RAD mid-load because it was messing it up, and it was just left over from other experiments.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: RpJk on July 15, 2011, 09:10:12 AM
Can I ask a question. When do you add the axle mount?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Virus Bomb on July 15, 2011, 09:22:31 AM
Yeah you can remove the RAD after activating it and it should still work. You can put the axle mount anywhere.

@Sombody: I had that happen to me too. Strange.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Somebody on July 15, 2011, 09:22:37 AM
Before you fire the piston, but after you get rid of the inner piston part.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 15, 2011, 09:28:23 AM
It works so long as you don't switch tabs after firing the piston. Or if you go into the Test Lab and back again to return the piston so you can get rid of the RAD, it doesn't work, I don't think.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: FOTEPX on July 15, 2011, 09:31:49 AM
THANK. YOU.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: martymidget on July 15, 2011, 09:35:53 AM
Nice.

The only time I can imagine using this, though, is after I've spent the past hour or two trying to stack a control board into two blacks. Would make HS that little bit more indestructible, as motors wont fall off...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: cephalopod on July 15, 2011, 10:15:27 AM
Awesome, thanks. Made a fail popup with it (': stacked hpz's and 4 stacked blacks/a cb. Thanks again :)
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Vertigo on July 15, 2011, 10:52:42 AM
Awesome to play around with, but I agree this is completely overpowered, but still very nice find :D

I won't ever be allowing this in any of my tournaments, dunno about others, but thats my view on the glitch
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: RpJk on July 15, 2011, 11:02:02 AM
I've tried the glitch. Yes it is impressive but I was expecting more like being able to do stuff like making iron spikes going through wheels and I've wanted to stack DDTs but it does not work.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Vertigo on July 15, 2011, 11:24:40 AM
I can stack DDTs
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Skiitzzox220 on July 15, 2011, 11:33:17 AM
This was not the thread I was expecting to come home to time to go try this out, serious credit to Scrap, Sage and R0B0
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 15, 2011, 02:20:59 PM
Pause button helps with stacking Motors and stuff from the Mechanics tab. Also Snapper Loading the axle away increases the likelihood of a stack working exponentially.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 15, 2011, 02:22:46 PM
@NFX- yep, urjak found out about da pause button on the first page
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 15, 2011, 02:26:55 PM
Yeah, but I worked that out myself. After I couldn't get it to work in the tiny chassis I'd made.

It also works if you stick the Piston/CB/Axle thing on a Smartzone floating somewhere in space, I've found, which allows you to build in ludicrously small chassiseseses. =D
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on July 15, 2011, 02:27:41 PM
I seem to be able to exostack most components...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 15, 2011, 02:27:59 PM
you attach a CB to a smartzone?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scrap Daddy on July 15, 2011, 02:31:11 PM
good idea NFX I didn't even think of that.


also I used te pause button I believe when I posted that first video :P
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Skiitzzox220 on July 15, 2011, 02:51:58 PM
Even with Hax Mode stacking is still rather difficult on serious bots, I stacked 7 zteks on my stacktice bot but thats pretty much it
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 15, 2011, 02:55:35 PM
you attach a CB to a smartzone?

Yeah. I did that while I was fooling around trying to make it work before it was revealed.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 15, 2011, 03:01:41 PM
welcome to RA3
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 15, 2011, 03:07:29 PM
welcome to RA3
Not really. It's the same components, same graphics, same sound, same gameplay...just the collision meshes don't apply. Sometimes. With certain stuff.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Urjak on July 15, 2011, 03:13:10 PM
I got 36 z-techs to stack, but can't do it reliably enough. Usually I get around 4 or 5, then it prevents any kind of axle stacking.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on July 15, 2011, 03:22:03 PM
First of all, i'd just like to say <3

I'm playing around with this glitch now, fun stuff, for me it seems that the pause button kind of makes a second super stack mode, if I can't stack something without pause on, i usually can with it on, and vice versa
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 15, 2011, 03:53:54 PM
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/91376screenshot_10.jpg)

exostacked through top of chassis
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on July 15, 2011, 04:00:52 PM
lol, we're getting to DSL size chassis' now
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on July 15, 2011, 04:38:20 PM
Well here's somewhat of a limitation, it seems you can't snapper load while in hax mode...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: LiNcK on July 15, 2011, 04:43:24 PM
:DDD

Does this work with DSL? :P
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scrap Daddy on July 15, 2011, 04:44:00 PM
yeah you need to snapper load whatever you need to at the same time as the pistons
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on July 15, 2011, 04:46:59 PM
:DDD

Does this work with DSL? :P
I imagine, can't see what use it would be though, apart from maybe cheating dodgy collision meshes

yeah you need to snapper load whatever you need to at the same time as the pistons
There's no way to stop whatever you've snapper loaded returning though when you fire the piston, unless maybe a VERY precise tab change i suppose...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: LiNcK on July 15, 2011, 05:03:41 PM
:DDD

Does this work with DSL? :P
I imagine, can't see what use it would be though, apart from maybe cheating dodgy collision meshes


Thats exactly what I wanna do :P


Thanks for the release :D

EDIT:
Uhmmm... As far as I know, it isnt working for me. Where do you have to attach the 2nd component with an axle? Just randomly on the chassis? :P
I managed to do everything in the instructions (Its quite easy to do actually...) but no result :\
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Badnik96 on July 16, 2011, 11:50:14 AM
*insert ROBO smiley here*
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on July 16, 2011, 10:54:00 PM
welcome to RA3

LOL You just cant make up your mind

Before you were condemning this glitch and saying we should go completely realistic with stock
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 17, 2011, 06:55:17 AM
welcome to RA3

LOL You just cant make up your mind

Before you were condemning this glitch and saying we should go completely realistic with stock

That was before what I saw what it was capable of

I for one, welcome our new stacked overlords.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: csimami on July 17, 2011, 11:53:04 AM
can someone pls make a vid-tutorial for some reason i cant get it working -.-'
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 17, 2011, 11:56:05 AM
It doesn't work if there's an axle in the way. Also, you can't switch tabs once you fire the piston, otherwise Hax Mode turns off. I find pressing the Pause button just after you've fired the piston helps immensely.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: csimami on July 17, 2011, 12:03:04 PM
sorry but my english is even worser than google translater :(

And for that reason i want an tutorial vid
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on July 17, 2011, 12:12:24 PM
It doesn't work if there's an axle in the way. Also, you can't switch tabs once you fire the piston, otherwise Hax Mode turns off. I find pressing the Pause button just after you've fired the piston helps immensely.
Hax mode doesn't turn off if you switch tabs, but it makes it work a lot less it seems.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 17, 2011, 12:33:59 PM
sorry but my english is even worser than google translater :(

And for that reason i want an tutorial vid

There's a tutorial video in RA2: Tips and Tricks for SNAPPER LOADING. Just do it on a piston instead of a motor, and then FIRE the piston after you SNAPPER LOAD it. Then, ATTACH AN AXLE MOUNT anywhere in your chassis.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: csimami on July 17, 2011, 01:39:31 PM
i know but if i want to snapper load it with the pistion the mini stick where you mount wheels on the RAD wont move away or something
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 17, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
I think I know what you're trying to say there. What you do is spin the motor and switch tabs while still holding the spin button. Then press the button and immediately switch tabs again, still holding it as you switch. Repeat this process until the piston flies away, or is at a curious angle. Then continue with Hax Mode process.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: csimami on July 17, 2011, 02:40:21 PM
it doesnt work :( or i am too dumb for it sry guys i think it will never work for me
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: LiNcK on July 17, 2011, 02:45:58 PM
Not really working for me either, I can do everything perfectly fine though... Mehh, Ill try again later :P
Im on DSL BTW, Using That TWDR3 Motor orso? Something like that, It looks like the one on the pics. Also tried with a copal.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Jack Daniels on July 17, 2011, 02:49:36 PM
Not really working for me either, I can do everything perfectly fine though... Mehh, Ill try again later :P
Im on DSL BTW, Using That TWDR3 Motor orso? Something like that, It looks like the one on the pics. Also tried with a copal.

You also have the worst luck with AGOD.  I'm thinking that there is some bad karma surrounding you and your computer. 

I think it would be best if you just try hax mode on a completely different computer... in a different country... maybe in a different time zone.

Might be worth a shot.  Lemme know if this helps.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: GarvinTheGreat on July 17, 2011, 02:49:43 PM
mate
I thought you were american
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: csimami on July 17, 2011, 02:50:34 PM
Oh christ mate calm down, this game takes practice.
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Yeah you are right thanks for cheering me up  (sry for bad english *again* *again*)
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: G.K. on July 17, 2011, 02:54:57 PM
I can tentativley say it works with Servo Pistons as well, therefore linear actuators also?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scrap Daddy on July 17, 2011, 03:22:38 PM
all pistons work. I actually used the linear actuator when I found it on backyard ripper
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 17, 2011, 03:23:50 PM
mate
I thought you were american

Therefore I am not allowed, by law, to use that word.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: LiNcK on July 17, 2011, 03:31:11 PM
Not really working for me either, I can do everything perfectly fine though... Mehh, Ill try again later :P
Im on DSL BTW, Using That TWDR3 Motor orso? Something like that, It looks like the one on the pics. Also tried with a copal.

You also have the worst luck with AGOD.  I'm thinking that there is some bad karma surrounding you and your computer. 

I think it would be best if you just try hax mode on a completely different computer... in a different country... maybe in a different time zone.

Might be worth a shot.  Lemme know if this helps.


One of the reasons I quit RA2 D:
I DID manage to get 1 of my bots to not AGOD once, ARCHIEVEMENT! :3
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Gazea2 on July 19, 2011, 11:59:19 AM
First of all, I had a really weird dream and I saw this thread in it. >)>

Second, Hax mode is awesome. Cheers Sage, Scrap and R0B0.

Finally, Hax mode has done something weird to my blacks... I was making a bot with it and I stacked 4 Z-teks next to each other and put the wheels on. Then I stacked two blacks in the Z-teks. I went to the test garage and back and wired it all up. When I went to test it, it said that my bot had no power... Any help?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on July 19, 2011, 12:12:45 PM
Did you unpause (if paused)?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 19, 2011, 12:12:46 PM
I had a really weird dream and I saw this thread in it. >)>?

NO WAY. SCRAPPPPPPP
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scrap Daddy on July 19, 2011, 12:14:44 PM
I had a really weird dream and I saw this thread in it. >)>?

NO WAY. SCRAPPPPPPP
hahahahah
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Gazea2 on July 19, 2011, 12:55:26 PM
Did you unpause (if paused)?

I managed to fix it. It seems that, if that happens, exiting the game and loading it up again fixes it.

I had a really weird dream and I saw this thread in it. >)>?

NO WAY. SCRAPPPPPPP

Well, I remember seeing GTM and a thread with the same title. I didn't see anything else unfortunately. D:
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: martymidget on July 19, 2011, 04:44:36 PM
Hax moded a popup, was a pretty good bot by my standards....then I went into the test garage, RA2 seized up and I completely lost the bot. This was with popping in and out of the test garage before, but when I had just finished it..

Damn it. D:
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on July 20, 2011, 01:20:04 AM
You can retrieve the bot file if not overwritten from the "Teams" folder.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: yoda9726 on July 22, 2011, 04:58:59 PM
I might've found a simpler way to do this, at least in DSL.  Can someone confirm for me? attach a hovercraft motor first, then one or sometimes 2 Storm burst pistons.  The pistons should fly off by themselves automatically activating hax mode.  Seems to work best for me if the Storm bursts are attached externally. 
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: nightcracker on July 23, 2011, 09:58:00 AM
Damn, I wish I had a Pause button.

movepixel (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6845.0.html) + F8?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Naryar on July 23, 2011, 10:15:36 AM
tentativley

HOLY CRAP SPARKEY HAS HACKED INTO G.K.'S ACCOUNT
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sparkey98 on July 23, 2011, 10:17:48 AM
tentativley

HOLY CRAP SPARKEY HAS HACKED INTO G.K.'S ACCOUNT

Okay really we have about four other noobs whop spell bad and you call me out when I don't even.....you get the point.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: G.K. on July 23, 2011, 10:50:43 AM
Wow, I typo'd.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Naryar on July 23, 2011, 10:59:59 AM
tentativley

HOLY CRAP SPARKEY HAS HACKED INTO G.K.'S ACCOUNT

Okay really we have about four other noobs whop spell bad and you call me out when I don't even.....you get the point.

Cause you did that exact same spelling mistake many times ( "vley" rather than "vely") in the past ?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Skiitzzox220 on July 23, 2011, 02:01:58 PM
When I activate Hax Mode with a burst piston I tend to get a more powerful version, I don't need to pause or anything the components will just go anywhere
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: TeamXtreemer on July 23, 2011, 06:09:41 PM
You've all been busy.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Mecha on July 24, 2011, 04:22:00 PM
Will this glitch be legal for stacking things you normally could, just easier?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on July 24, 2011, 04:30:07 PM
Will this glitch be legal for stacking things you normally could, just easier?

That's one of the problems with this glitch. You can ban it, but if people only use it to perform simple stacks that were already doable, then there's really no way to trace it.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Mecha on July 24, 2011, 04:42:36 PM
Will this glitch be legal for stacking things you normally could, just easier?

That's one of the problems with this glitch. You can ban it, but if people only use it to perform simple stacks that were already doable, then there's really no way to trace it.
So I'll just not use it on any serious bots.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: System32 on July 24, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
Don't ban a cause, ban a result.
 
+20 stacked blacks? Nope.avi.
2 or 3 stacked blacks? You get a pass.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on July 24, 2011, 04:45:16 PM
+20 stacked batts are useless anyways tho
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: LiNcK on July 25, 2011, 01:13:38 PM
Don't ban a cause, ban a result.
 
+20 stacked blacks? Nope.avi.
2 or 3 stacked blacks? You get a pass.


But well need to have exact numbers for what is allowed for all components...
Some guy might have 3 blacks, But somebody has 4 & What now if you dont have an exact number to say: "Ok, This isnt allowed"?


We need to make universal rules so that everything has a structure & Not have 1 tourney accept 7 blacks stacked but some other dude thinks 5 is too much so he only allows 4 in his tourney.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Urjak on July 25, 2011, 03:45:27 PM
We need to make universal rules so that everything has a structure & Not have 1 tourney accept 7 blacks stacked but some other dude thinks 5 is too much so he only allows 4 in his tourney.


Wait, why can't we have this? People would just read the rules of the tournament and follow them accordingly.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: LiNcK on July 25, 2011, 05:54:30 PM
We need to make universal rules so that everything has a structure & Not have 1 tourney accept 7 blacks stacked but some other dude thinks 5 is too much so he only allows 4 in his tourney.


Wait, why can't we have this? People would just read the rules of the tournament and follow them accordingly.


You CAN have it, But you should also have a general rule for how many things you can stack.
If a specific guy wants his tourney to have 20 things stacked fine... But lets say youre just building bots without having a porpouse for it, Youre not entering it into any tourney.
What is considered too much when you stack stuff?


You need to have a general rule & Then exceptions... Not randomly go & do whatever you want coz there will be conflict.


Take this example:
Cars & Roads have just been made, You need to have a rule on who is driving where... You drive on the RIGHT side of the road (Main/General rule there)
But when you wanna pass another car & The other road is clear you maybe be on the LEFT side just to pass him (Thats the exception right there)
But normally you drive on the right side, If anyone drives were ever he wants you WILL have a sh**load of crashes.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: G.K. on July 26, 2011, 03:52:52 AM
That's unnecessary - let the tournament host specify their limits.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: ACAMS on July 26, 2011, 07:44:58 AM
That's unnecessary - let the tournament host specify their limits.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: G.K. on August 03, 2011, 02:06:29 PM
Guys, I'm running into problems activating hax mode atm. When you say Snapper Load the piston, do you mean axle load the RAD or something else? I'm confused, because I was able to do it before, but I forgot what I did.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 03, 2011, 02:10:15 PM
It means attach the RAD to the piston, then do what you would normally do for Snapper Loading. Spin the RAD, quickly switch tabs, and repeat until the piston glitches away.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: G.K. on August 03, 2011, 02:16:29 PM
I did that and then the rest of the steps but hax mode didn't work...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 03, 2011, 02:24:49 PM
I did that and then the rest of the steps but hax mode didn't work...
Occasionally it doesn't work for me either. I sometimes try pausing after I fire and that helps, but I'm not sure. I think you might have to do it all in one go, but once you've fired, do NOT switch tabs, otherwise it stops working.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on August 03, 2011, 02:27:32 PM
Don't forget to fire, add an axle mount, and then pause in that order.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 03, 2011, 02:29:18 PM
You fire BEFORE you add the axle mount? That would be where I've been going wrong...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on August 03, 2011, 02:30:18 PM
Correct.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 03, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
Thank you, Sage. =) I must not have read the instructions properly.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: G.K. on August 03, 2011, 02:33:13 PM
That would be it, though I'm sure the instructions say after...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Fracture on August 03, 2011, 02:33:54 PM
I've been doing it like NFX as well and it's only worked half the time. :P Merci Monsieur Sage.

Edit: Yeah, R0B0's instructions tell you to fire the piston after you attach the axle. >_>
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 03, 2011, 02:34:17 PM
I was also sure of that. *c*

Yep, they do.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on August 03, 2011, 02:41:06 PM
lol, maybe he changed them?
I've always fired then attached...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on August 03, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
robos a noob guise you cant listen to him
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Jack Daniels on August 03, 2011, 05:25:10 PM
Don't forget to fire, add an axle mount, and then pause in that order.

Goddammit.  I wasted a whole day.  I'm burning Canada.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Badnik96 on August 03, 2011, 05:35:20 PM
oh it's fire, then axlemount?

I added the axle then fired and it worked
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: R0B0SH4RK on August 04, 2011, 01:10:41 PM
...Except that I axlemount then fire, and it works 100% of the time :3


Don't forget to fire, add an axle mount, and then pause in that order.

Goddammit.  I wasted a whole day.  I'm burning Canada.

We have more wilderness than the continent of Europe has land mass. COME AT ME BRO.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 07, 2011, 06:55:56 AM
I've just tried Fire -> Axle, and Axle -> Fire on one of my test bots, and neither of them seemed to work. And that got me wondering, are there any components which don't effectively lose the collision mesh if they've already been attached before Hax Mode is activated?
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2011, 07:01:39 AM
From what I can tell, there seems to be a limit of components you can have on for hax mode to work fully, when I built my haxmode pop up, I found I had to delete some things before it would let me stack all the DDTs into each other like I wanted.

Also, random thing which i've just remembered, hax mode doesn't work if you've attatched the piston to another motor.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 07, 2011, 07:04:39 AM
From what I can tell, there seems to be a limit of components you can have on for hax mode to work fully, when I built my haxmode pop up, I found I had to delete some things before it would let me stack all the DDTs into each other like I wanted.

Also, random thing which i've just remembered, hax mode doesn't work if you've attatched the piston to another motor.

But it does work if you attach the piston to a SmartZone. =D Which really helps with the tiny chassis's and such.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2011, 07:08:02 AM
From what I can tell, there seems to be a limit of components you can have on for hax mode to work fully, when I built my haxmode pop up, I found I had to delete some things before it would let me stack all the DDTs into each other like I wanted.

Also, random thing which i've just remembered, hax mode doesn't work if you've attatched the piston to another motor.

But it does work if you attach the piston to a SmartZone. =D Which really helps with the tiny chassis's and such.
Yeah, I think it's just when it's on a moving component, it must mess up the....thing....that happens....I really don't get why hax mode works XD
One other thing, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you also need to have the axle itself inside the chassis
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 07, 2011, 07:13:43 AM
From what I can tell, there seems to be a limit of components you can have on for hax mode to work fully, when I built my haxmode pop up, I found I had to delete some things before it would let me stack all the DDTs into each other like I wanted.

Also, random thing which i've just remembered, hax mode doesn't work if you've attatched the piston to another motor.

But it does work if you attach the piston to a SmartZone. =D Which really helps with the tiny chassis's and such.
Yeah, I think it's just when it's on a moving component, it must mess up the....thing....that happens....I really don't get why hax mode works XD
One other thing, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you also need to have the axle itself inside the chassis
Nope. Axle can be attached to the SmartZone too. =) But make sure you don't attach it to the central point, because you can't actually select it if you do.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scorpion on August 07, 2011, 07:52:12 AM
From what I can tell, there seems to be a limit of components you can have on for hax mode to work fully, when I built my haxmode pop up, I found I had to delete some things before it would let me stack all the DDTs into each other like I wanted.

Also, random thing which i've just remembered, hax mode doesn't work if you've attatched the piston to another motor.

But it does work if you attach the piston to a SmartZone. =D Which really helps with the tiny chassis's and such.
Yeah, I think it's just when it's on a moving component, it must mess up the....thing....that happens....I really don't get why hax mode works XD
One other thing, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you also need to have the axle itself inside the chassis
Nope. Axle can be attached to the SmartZone too. =) But make sure you don't attach it to the central point, because you can't actually select it if you do.
Fair enough, never tried it in a smartzone TBH
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Scrap Daddy on August 07, 2011, 01:12:00 PM
I've never attached an axle while using hax mode and it always works for me
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Naryar on August 07, 2011, 02:48:30 PM
About that necro glitch, I have fell on it while piston loading.

It can be fixed if you remove the piston by BFE and not screw up the whole bot file.

Dunno if this hasn't been said before...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on August 07, 2011, 05:52:14 PM
Of course it can be fixed with BFE. It can also be fixed with the pause button... O: I BEAT THE NECRO GLITCH


i'm a necromancer
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Naryar on August 07, 2011, 06:18:40 PM
Of course it can be fixed with BFE. It can also be fixed with the pause button... O: I BEAT THE NECRO GLITCH


i'm a necromancer

So you have decided to specialize, wizard ?

You'll have to remove that beard, lurk in graveyards, wear a black cloak with hood, and whiten your skin tone. Also your magic staff needs a skull on top of it.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 07, 2011, 06:29:36 PM
Of course it can be fixed with BFE. It can also be fixed with the pause button... O: I BEAT THE NECRO GLITCH


i'm a necromancer

...I assumed it necro'd when paused as well. I always use Pause when I leave the Test Lab when Haxing.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on August 13, 2011, 08:20:30 AM
So yeah, thought it was about time I sat down and tried this glitch

Followed all of R0B0's directions and pictures and it doesn't work for me.. AAM it is then..
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: cephalopod on August 13, 2011, 08:23:56 AM
Hax Mode really hasn't killed building as some thought it would, has it... XD
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: G.K. on August 13, 2011, 08:35:02 AM
So yeah, thought it was about time I sat down and tried this glitch

Followed all of R0B0's directions and pictures and it doesn't work for me.. AAM it is then..

Try firing before adding axle mount.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on August 13, 2011, 09:05:07 AM
Done that..

Fired before, after before and after, everything but it wont ever enter Hax Mode.. (obviously starting from scratch every-time I tried)

Hax Mode really hasn't killed building as some thought it would, has it... XD

Well no tournaments have really come to light that it could be exploited in

There is no rulings still so when one come around expect a big Hax mode discussion then..
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 13, 2011, 10:25:48 AM
Presumably, there's something that prevents Hax Mode from working when attached. My guess is some sort of burst motor, maybe a SnapperII...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on August 13, 2011, 10:32:29 AM
My test robot looked identical to the one in the first post..
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on August 13, 2011, 11:03:05 AM
Try snapper loading the rad until the pitch of the motor changes from a a high whine to a low roar. That's when it works the best. Also, try stacking some things like a motor into a battery. See if it works then.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on August 13, 2011, 11:07:36 AM
high whine to a low roar.

Kinda like a servo sounding noise?

Yeah.. that didnt work wither :P

Maybe I should try a different game.. Its "Doomed Bots" AI so I take that name alone as a bad starting place :P
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Sage on August 13, 2011, 11:13:34 AM
Maybe I should make a vid tut...
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 13, 2011, 11:20:36 AM
That may help...I think it's best to check various components to see if any of them negate the effects. I spin it and do the Snapper Loading until the piston/RAD is off the screen, then add the axle mount/fire the piston in whatever order I can get it to work.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on August 13, 2011, 11:25:29 AM
I am pretty sure I know how to do it.. I do everything correct but after I attach the axle mount (or any motor for that matter) it just doesnt enter Hax Mode.. or it did once but only one motor lost is collision ability (and it was only the motor body not the axle)
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Gazea2 on August 13, 2011, 11:28:58 AM
I usually find that pausing it after you have attached an axle mount and fired the piston helps... That's the only way I've been able to stack the motor axles.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 13, 2011, 11:29:54 AM
I find that you do have to pause it as well. You need to pause it quickly to keep Hax Mode working.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Badger on August 13, 2011, 11:32:54 AM
I always end up with a necro chassis. Every time.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: NFX on August 13, 2011, 11:34:17 AM
Press the Pause button, then go into the Test lab and back to Components. That should help it.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: That Robot is a Spy! on August 16, 2011, 05:10:25 PM
I got it to work first try.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: DuckRA2 on August 18, 2011, 10:53:32 PM
I don't plan on making it work anytime soon are anytime in years. I pretend I never have seen this thread.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Doomkiller on August 19, 2011, 08:03:18 AM
high whine to a low roar.

Kinda like a servo sounding noise?

Yeah.. that didnt work wither :P

Maybe I should try a different game.. Its "Doomed Bots" AI so I take that name alone as a bad starting place :P

:O how could you say thats a bad starting place? :O
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: JoeBlo on August 19, 2011, 08:29:59 AM
Them being doomed bots and all :P
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Gauche Suede on February 07, 2016, 09:23:16 AM
Just a tip, if you remove the axle while in Hax Mode the Hax Mode gets turned off.
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Badger on February 07, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
Just a tip, if you remove the axle while in Hax Mode the Hax Mode gets turned off.
I wondered how you got that air tank inside 2 z-teks
Title: Re: HAX MODE REVEALED - Your Guide to Superstacking
Post by: Gauche Suede on February 07, 2016, 10:28:36 AM
Just a tip, if you remove the axle while in Hax Mode the Hax Mode gets turned off.
I wondered how you got that air tank inside 2 z-teks
Snapper loading.