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Title: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Bubbleman on August 13, 2011, 03:39:51 PM
Un-Generic-ness

Signups are CLOSED.

Just a stock LW tournament, rules are:
NO HS'S, POPUPS OR CRAWLERS.
DSL Tourney Arena (:P)
8 bot bracket, Losers bracket too.
Wildcard bracket, depending on intrest again.
The only use for a Z-Tech/HP Z-Tech Is a weapon motor (if you can find a way, that is).
Your bot either:
Must use a 140cm extender
OR
Must be built off a snapper. (you can do both if you want)
I will not be entering.
It would be best if you AI'd, although i can if the need is high (BTW it will be copy/paste another bot's bindings).
You may make a splash for me to display as your bot's main splash, if you don't supply one I will make the splash
Brackets and vids will be updated every day/two days.

Entry(s)
1)MassimoV *tick*
2)Mr. AwesumSauce *tick*
3)Fracture *tick*
4)Badnik96 *tick*
5)Freeziez
6)NFX *tick*
7)RPJK
8)Wildcard

Wildcard
1)Vertigo
2)Squirrel_Monkey
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: JoeBlo on August 15, 2011, 07:09:29 AM

- The rules may not change from this point
- The Deadline for this Minor League tournament is November 13, 2011

(keep in mind you can only host a single wildcard match, not a bracket, I will allow you to adjust your wildcard size within this rule)
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: MassimoV on August 15, 2011, 11:11:50 AM
I'll try out some stock for this
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: RpJk on August 15, 2011, 11:43:13 AM
Can it be just the weapon bulit off the Snapper?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: SteveM4 on August 15, 2011, 11:46:07 AM
I might enter this.

Never entered anything in stock before.

Sounds fun! (Plans flipper bot)
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Enigm@ on August 15, 2011, 11:48:25 AM
Y U NO POP-UPS :FFFUUU
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: SteveM4 on August 15, 2011, 11:49:31 AM
>Enigma

Its a challenge to you stock builders to build something that is out of the ordinary


(I know you ere joking, btw)
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: RpJk on August 15, 2011, 11:50:21 AM
I feel like making something like a Stock LW version of MAKO!
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Enigm@ on August 15, 2011, 11:50:34 AM
w/e I'm building a wammer any way. :P
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: SteveM4 on August 15, 2011, 11:53:07 AM
inb4 only wammers, SnS and VS enter this.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Enigm@ on August 15, 2011, 11:54:32 AM
inb4 only wammers, SnS and VS enter this.
Or FS's. :P
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: RpJk on August 15, 2011, 11:57:28 AM
Or Hammers or Flippers or Angled VS's or Thwackers or.....................(List gos on)
I can see someone entering a werid hybrid like A gyro Drill/Flipper for etc;
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: SteveM4 on August 15, 2011, 12:08:50 PM
Depending on the arena (was it specified?) I will either enter a flipper or hammer.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Scorpion on August 15, 2011, 12:16:36 PM
Erm...yeah, what's the arena?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: MassimoV on August 15, 2011, 12:21:00 PM
Entry sent. It sucks so who ever gets me first round is practically getting a bye.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Naryar on August 15, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
stock LW ? BOOORING
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Enigm@ on August 15, 2011, 03:55:40 PM
stock LW ? BOOORING
You're boring. :p
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Scorpion on August 15, 2011, 03:56:37 PM
Erm...yeah, what's le arena?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Fracture on August 15, 2011, 04:09:49 PM
Do part-HS hybrids count as HS? They'd still be pretty non-generic unless a single razor on the front makes a HS into a HS/rammer hybrid...
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: SteveM4 on August 15, 2011, 04:16:27 PM
Hay, you guys, I builted a flipper!

It are good and I won Emergency! I are best!
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on August 15, 2011, 04:18:51 PM
Hay, you guys, I builted a flipper!

It are good and I won Emergency! I are best!
Reminds me of Futurama.

"The big brain am winning again! I am the GREETEST! Now I am leaving Earth forever, for NO RAISIN!"
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: SteveM4 on August 15, 2011, 04:23:19 PM
>read comment, lol'd
>Saw avatar, stopped lolling

Why U HATE?!
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Bubbleman on August 16, 2011, 02:13:31 AM
(keep in mind you can only host a single wildcard match, not a bracket, I will allow you to adjust your wildcard size within this rule)
No thanks. If i get less, i'm fine, and if i get 1 more, i will be fine too.

Can it be just the weapon bulit off the Snapper?
Yes.

Do part-HS hybrids count as HS? They'd still be pretty non-generic unless a single razor on the front makes a HS into a HS/rammer hybrid...
Yes, but if the hybrid is tipped HEAVILY in the extra types favour. Like a 3hs mounted on a RAD with 20 ramming razors.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: NFX on August 16, 2011, 06:31:43 PM
Do part-HS hybrids count as HS? They'd still be pretty non-generic unless a single razor on the front makes a HS into a HS/rammer hybrid...
Yes, but if the hybrid is tipped HEAVILY in the extra types favour. Like a 3hs mounted on a RAD with 20 ramming razors.
That sounds kinda vague, in my view. I think something like a weight proportion would be better, so as to avoid any arguing if one bot gets in and another doesn't.
 
Also, PMbomb'd. =D
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: 09090901 on August 16, 2011, 07:12:12 PM
So no rammers?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on August 16, 2011, 07:15:41 PM
So no rammers?
You can build a rammer, as long as it has a 140cm extender (you could just put it on a random baseplate anchor), or you put  the drive/something on a snapper.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: 09090901 on August 16, 2011, 07:18:18 PM
So no rammers?
You can build a rammer, as long as it has a 140cm extender (you could just put it on a random baseplate anchor), or you put  the drive/something on a snapper.
The only use for a Z-Tech/HP Z-Tech Is a weapon motor (if you can find a way, that is).
NVM just have to use yucky redbirds.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on August 16, 2011, 07:20:52 PM
So no rammers?
You can build a rammer, as long as it has a 140cm extender (you could just put it on a random baseplate anchor), or you put  the drive/something on a snapper.
The only use for a Z-Tech/HP Z-Tech Is a weapon motor (if you can find a way, that is).
Yeah but redbird drive fails.
I thought the drive for rammers was the weapon motor? Because how else will the rammers ram their opponent?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Fracture on August 16, 2011, 07:24:35 PM
PRETTY SURE motors used for drive are called drive motors.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on August 16, 2011, 07:37:50 PM
PRETTY SURE motors used for drive are called drive motors.
I'm only saying this because
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Fracture on August 16, 2011, 11:04:08 PM
How do the splashes work? Are they supposed to be like BOTM splashes (with no text other than the name, of course)? What about size limits?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 16, 2011, 11:13:54 PM
yuss.

Will enter something. Mebbe a hammer or some epic-looking VS.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Bubbleman on August 17, 2011, 03:08:39 AM
Quote
That sounds kinda vague, in my view. I think something like a weight proportion would be better, so as to avoid any arguing if one bot gets in and another doesn't.
Good Idea.
Maybe a maximim of 56KG spent on the HS? That gives enough for a 'Yucky Redbird' and 3 razors on a tribar.

How do the splashes work? Are they supposed to be like BOTM splashes (with no text other than the name, of course)? What about size limits?
No size limit, and no resrictions. Just make sure its a png XD.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: I Like Tacos on August 17, 2011, 09:31:28 AM
This sounds fun. I might enter something(It probably will loose in 5 seconds).
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on August 17, 2011, 09:32:27 AM
 :welcome
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: freeziez on August 17, 2011, 09:45:49 AM
Sent something.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: I Like Tacos on August 17, 2011, 09:48:32 AM
:welcome
Thanks!
I've actually been playing RA2 for a while.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: That Robot is a Spy! on August 17, 2011, 01:13:33 PM
Gonna build a rammer.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: RpJk on August 17, 2011, 01:38:31 PM
Hopefully tommorow for sending something.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 17, 2011, 01:39:10 PM
I'm gonna build an awesome-looking VS for this.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 17, 2011, 02:25:10 PM
DP

my crazy VS sent.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on August 17, 2011, 05:10:11 PM
:welcome
Thanks!
I've actually been playing RA2 for a while.
Hi I Like Tacos.

Might enter if I get an idea to enter.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: NFX on August 17, 2011, 05:19:52 PM
Welcome to the boards, Tacos. =) You'll probably need the 1.4 patch for this tournament, I'm not entirely certain where to find it, though. Good luck to you if you do enter.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 18, 2011, 01:25:23 AM
It's on the Downloads page under Patches, that's where I got it.

Also got an idea on how to make the VS better, will ty it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Wacky Bob on August 18, 2011, 07:09:58 AM
Maybe I'll have time to build something for this if I can hurry up my challenge with RPJK...
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Fracture on August 18, 2011, 07:18:15 AM
Again, Bubbleman...I really don't want to change my bot up because of a rule that was added after signups were posted, and it wasn't even agreed on or posted in the OP, you just said "maybe" a 56 KG limit would be good. If this (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64541Flow.png) is too generic for you, then I really don't know what isn't...

(for those wondering, to meet his restriction I would have to downgrade the Z-tek to a RAD or Redbird with razors which would take away nearly all my KO potential and make every match last about a minute longer)
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Bubbleman on August 18, 2011, 10:29:34 AM
Again, Bubbleman...I really don't want to change my bot up because of a rule that was added after signups were posted, and it wasn't even agreed on or posted in the OP, you just said "maybe" a 56 KG limit would be good. If this (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/64541Flow.png) is too generic for you, then I really don't know what isn't...

(for those wondering, to meet his restriction I would have to downgrade the Z-tek to a RAD or Redbird with razors which would take away nearly all my KO potential and make every match last about a minute longer)
I was wondering, Should that rule even count? It was added after signups, and when they started, Joe locked the rules. I don't think that rule should count now, although if Joe is fine with it, it could count/change to 60KG if it already counts/be allowed by popular demand. I don't know. I've confused myself now (http://wrestlingforum.info/images/smilies/CONFUSED_SMILEY.GIF).

Also, that setup you have there really could kill, even with the whole spike strip gone. I remember the servo/snapper boosting boosts the speed by a long shot, and the HS could score heavy hits. Just making a point here, no shouting at me, and i don't mean to offend anyone.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Fracture on August 18, 2011, 04:07:59 PM
I was wondering, Should that rule even count? It was added after signups, and when they started, Joe locked the rules. I don't think that rule should count now, although if Joe is fine with it, it could count/change to 60KG if it already counts/be allowed by popular demand. I don't know. I've confused myself now (http://wrestlingforum.info/images/smilies/CONFUSED_SMILEY.GIF).
You don't know? That really doesn't tell us anything...just do what you need to do as the tournament host. At the very least you could PM JoeBlo to make your decision.

Also, that setup you have there really could kill, even with the whole spike strip gone. I remember the servo/snapper boosting boosts the speed by a long shot, and the VS could score heavy hits. Just making a point here, no shouting at me, and i don't mean to offend anyone.
Now you've confused yourself and me. :P I'm hoping that by VS you mean HS and I don't even know how the spike strip got in there. Snappers don't boost spin motors *that* much, but it's noticeable with faster motors like HP Z-teks. With RADs or Redbirds...not really. I'm not worried about the combat effectiveness of my bot, but for the viewers of the videos; I for one prefer matches where a bot doesn't have to constantly ram for the entire last half of the match just to damage the other bot's control board.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 18, 2011, 04:10:18 PM
Bubbles, did you not get my bot?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 19, 2011, 05:09:51 AM
I would send my bot but the weapon refuses to spin when AI'd
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Elementos on August 22, 2011, 03:23:16 AM
Wow, This sounds like quite a neat contest. I love thelightweight contests as you never know what will happen. I Might enter my LW i made last week in this :D Finally i learnt how to AI so im okay haha.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Elementos on August 22, 2011, 03:40:36 AM
Forgot to ask, Do you want the bots ready to be put into the bindings.py file? Cause my bot is just a simple topknot.py system.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: NFX on August 22, 2011, 04:06:09 AM
I love the lightweight contests as you never know what will happen.

That's true. I'm hoping to redeem myself after the last Stock LW tournament I entered. =D
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 22, 2011, 12:22:20 PM
oh hey deinemutter is back
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: nightcracker on August 23, 2011, 07:37:00 AM
Alright, I'm going to enter something, hold on :D
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Elementos on August 23, 2011, 07:44:24 AM
oh hey deinemutter is back

I thought that hardly any people knew me that when i came back nobody would notice!  :bigsmile:
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: nightcracker on August 23, 2011, 04:06:33 PM
My entry: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6980.msg408113.html#msg408113 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6980.msg408113.html#msg408113)

How should I send it in?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 23, 2011, 04:35:36 PM
I think HS are ilegal dude.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Fracture on August 23, 2011, 04:36:45 PM
Silly Badnik

HS aren't HS anymore if they're wired differently :D
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 23, 2011, 04:37:16 PM
but it has spin motors and spins horizontally XD
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: nightcracker on August 23, 2011, 04:45:42 PM
That's not a HS, it's a Flail SnS.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on August 23, 2011, 04:58:13 PM

My entry: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6980.msg408113.html#msg408113 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,6980.msg408113.html#msg408113)

How should I send it in?
Breaks multiple rules:
The only use for a Z-Tech/HP Z-Tech Is a weapon motor (if you can find a way, that is).
Your bot either:
Must use a 140cm extender
OR
Must be built off a snapper. (you can do both if you want)
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: nightcracker on August 23, 2011, 05:01:34 PM
Oh dear god, didn't read all of those :0

Wow, that was nooby, sorry! Guess this won't be my entry then :)

Though it can be debatable whether the motor on a Flail SnS is a weapon motor or not.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: NFX on August 24, 2011, 03:55:11 AM
I think a better way of explaining it is that a Z-Tek (HP or otherwise) cannot be used to power a wheel.

Also, aren't flail SnS pretty bad in Stock?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Pwnator on August 24, 2011, 05:23:29 AM
Also, aren't flail SnS pretty bad in Stock?

Depends on how you built it. Check out Inf's LW (I forgot the name, but it's in II AI), and my Jupiter re-remake that's buried deep in my showcase.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 24, 2011, 10:22:45 AM
027 has a pretty good Flail SnS on the exchange somewhere.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 27, 2011, 11:58:24 AM
My entry still wont spin its weapon when AI'd *angry*
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Badnik96 on August 27, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
what PY file are you using?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 27, 2011, 12:46:43 PM
Omni, or Spinner. Neither work.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: NFX on August 27, 2011, 12:58:09 PM
Have you called the control "Spin"?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on August 27, 2011, 01:30:08 PM
Yes, I'm not that stupid...
I guess I'll make something else.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 02, 2011, 11:12:55 AM
I am entering. Are multiple entries allowed? I would enter just two if so.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Fracture on September 02, 2011, 11:18:35 AM
I am entering. Are multiple entries allowed? I would enter just two if so.
There's actually quite a few rules missing, and I'll be kinda pissed if they're exploited, i.e. no mention of Hax Mode being allowed or controlled movement. ATM this tournament seems kinda shaky...
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: infiniteinertia on September 03, 2011, 12:12:21 PM
I'm definitely entering...but the whole is an SnS an HS debate is one of the small rules that have been left out...
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: I Like Tacos on October 01, 2011, 08:58:56 PM
I finished my bot!  :mrgreen:
Should I just PM you the .bot?
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on October 01, 2011, 09:02:31 PM
I finished my bot!  :mrgreen:
Should I just PM you the .bot?
Well, Bubbleman hasn't been on since September 14, but go right ahead.
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: RpJk on October 02, 2011, 01:01:45 AM
I finished my bot!  :mrgreen:
Should I just PM you the .bot?
:trollface :SFTW Nuff said
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Naryar on October 02, 2011, 03:19:53 AM
I finished my bot!  :mrgreen:
Should I just PM you the .bot?

This smells of HEAVY sarcasm... but i'm still not sure, you're new after all and might believe this is "good"
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on October 02, 2011, 11:40:26 AM

I finished my bot!  :mrgreen:
Should I just PM you the .bot?

This smells of HEAVY sarcasm... but i'm still not sure, you're new after all and might believe this is "good"

Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Bubbleman on November 02, 2011, 03:30:25 PM
I'm back. There. I said it.

I was quite surprised about the interest while I was gone. I thought that everyone would dissmiss this as 'One of those tournaments'.

I have checked the bots with the ticks. The ones with no ticks have not been checked yet.

I may need an AI-er to help... erm, AI-ing, but I am capable of doing it myself.

Splash to come.

Bubbleman
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Mr. AS on November 02, 2011, 03:39:27 PM
lol only 11 days to finish this
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: Bubbleman on November 03, 2011, 02:51:01 AM
You think I don't know?

Plan:
3rd/4th: AI
5th/12th: Record&Upload
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: G.K. on November 06, 2011, 03:11:24 AM
1 week left...
Title: Re: Un-Generic-ness Signups
Post by: G.K. on November 13, 2011, 12:28:07 PM
Time up. Banned until Febuary 13, 2012.