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Title: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 04, 2010, 06:13:04 PM
Well heres an idea i've thought about for a while, and I think i'm able to host a successful tourney now (or I hope atleast  :laughing )

- The weight class is going to be DSL 2.1 HW
- cheatbot2, custom and AI components are NOT allowed, neither are BFE or AAM.
- DSL realistic rules apply (so yeah you can push it a bit, not too much though)
- One havok restart for each bot, if a bot havoks twice it forfeits the match
- Multibots aren't allowed either

Now for the interesting parts

The brackets are going to be 4 4 way battle royals with the last 2 survivors going through where they'll face a bot from the next 4 way bracket in a deathmatch and then on it stays to a traditional deathmatch set up with a 3rd place playoff aswell as the final.

Whic bots will face which in the second round are gonna be decided on points (i.e the surviving bot with the least points in bracket 1 faces the surviving bot with the most in bracket 2 and vice versa)

The bots entered MUST be a spinner, i.e shell, face, horizontal, vertical, drum, juggler, full body
SnS are only allowed if they are a hybrid between SnS and another spinner type (e.g SnS face hybrid)
Bots are also not allowed component wedges.
Component wedge = anywedge that's mounted on another component.
So no mako,skirt,metal hinge or MCB wedge(whatever that is).
Basically the only kind of wedge i'm allowing is a chassis wedge, because they're useless.

No hybrids are allowed either unless the bot types mixed are spinners.
No flails either, sorry but I don't want the havok mess.

The matches are going to be in a skinned CC one qualifying arena which you can see here
.

I can AI if needs be, but i'd recomend that you do it yourself if you can.
The prize is simply going to be the skin, and ofcourse bragging rights  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Somebody on November 04, 2010, 07:33:05 PM
SnS/HS Hybrids allowed?
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Hydro on November 04, 2010, 08:25:20 PM
OH DEAR GOD NO


*goes to see about practicing spinners*
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: JoeBlo on November 04, 2010, 08:36:11 PM
haha this is quite similar to a tournament series I planned to be my annual occurring one but then CC became to popular :P

Mine was to be called TNT (Twist N Turn)

Spinners only, Rumbles, etc

but I was going to use the Blade Arena for more spinning fun


sounds cool, even though I didn't give you the idea im happy to see such a tournament created
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Hydro on November 04, 2010, 08:40:04 PM
Bah, builder's block.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 05, 2010, 02:12:02 AM
haha this is quite similar to a tournament series I planned to be my annual occurring one but then CC became to popular :P

Mine was to be called TNT (Twist N Turn)

Spinners only, Rumbles, etc

but I was going to use the Blade Arena for more spinning fun


sounds cool, even though I didn't give you the idea im happy to see such a tournament created
Haha, I thought it would be your kind of thing, although i'm pleasantly surprised to hear you had the same idea  :bigsmile:
I was thinking about putting it in the blade arena or tournamet arena aswell actually, but I wanted something close-quaters and diidn't want to give HS too much of an advantage.

SnS/HS Hybrids allowed?
I should have known you would try and bend that rule, but yeah, i'll allow sns/other spinner type hybrids then.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: JoeBlo on November 05, 2010, 02:38:28 AM
but I wanted something close-quaters and diidn't want to give HS too much of an advantage.

just throwing this out there... my CC qualifying arena in CCAI 1 ? its basically just the small arena with low walls ? I can help you skin it if need be ?
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Meganerdbomb on November 05, 2010, 02:47:57 AM
Hmm...well a ban on wedges might not be too healthy for, say, face-spinners (I like face-spinners). :cool:
Seriously, I'm interested in this. I don't really play anymore but this looks like something right up my alley. So, yeah, we'll see.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 05, 2010, 11:47:03 AM
but I wanted something close-quaters and diidn't want to give HS too much of an advantage.

just throwing this out there... my CC qualifying arena in CCAI 1 ? its basically just the small arena with low walls ? I can help you skin it if need be ?
*c*
Actually, that's a great idea for the arena joe, thanks, is it up for download here?
I'm going to have a go at skinning myself (it's the best way to learn how i think), thanks very much for the offer though.

Hmm...well a ban on wedges might not be too healthy for, say, face-spinners (I like face-spinners). :cool:
Seriously, I'm interested in this. I don't really play anymore but this looks like something right up my alley. So, yeah, we'll see.
Well I hope you do enter  :bigsmile:
I'm surprised the no wedges idea didn't get shot out the water TBH, but you know, I never said anything about chassis wedges  :laughing
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: cephalopod on November 05, 2010, 11:51:48 AM
THIS TOURNAMENT IS MY BEST FRIEND. :D
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Vertigo on November 05, 2010, 12:09:23 PM
Sounds like a nice idea but your a little new to be hosting a tourney IMO

Sorry Scorps D:
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: martymidget on November 05, 2010, 12:10:24 PM
THIS TOURNAMENT IS MY BEST FRIEND. :D

Well, if you're keen to ditch me for this tournament, I claim this as my best friend :O

But yeah, awesome. I will definitely enter :D
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: cephalopod on November 05, 2010, 12:11:22 PM
I reckon he can pull it off. New members have pulled off good tournaments in the past, and I think Scorpion is one of those new members who CAN do it.
 
And lol. This tournament is much better than you ;3
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Vertigo on November 05, 2010, 12:13:50 PM
And lol. This tournament is much better than you ;3
How dare you!
Oh, & sign upto RA2TC while you're at it :P
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: cephalopod on November 05, 2010, 12:16:45 PM
I meant better than MM, fool ;p
And yeah, I got to :P
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 05, 2010, 12:35:04 PM
Yeah, i'll admit I was going to wait a while, probably after the next round of tourneys have been deicided and are underway, to start a discussion topic, but I was feeling a bit anxious to see what everybody thought about the idea  :bigsmile:

Besides, the idea seems to be well-received, and I'm pretty sure I can host this without messing it up, besides, it's in my interest to prove myself with this and not do what some other people have done with their first tourneys.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Vertigo on November 05, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
Yeah, i'll admit I was going to wait a while, probably after the next round of tourneys have been deicided and are underway, to start a discussion topic, but I was feeling a bit anxious to see what everybody thought about the idea  :bigsmile:

Besides, the idea seems to be well-received, and I'm pretty sure I can host this without messing it up, besides, it's in my interest to prove myself with this and not do what some other people have done with their first tourneys.
OK then, thats fine :P
Just make sure you don't mess it up  ;)
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 05, 2010, 12:45:58 PM
Yeah, i'll admit I was going to wait a while, probably after the next round of tourneys have been deicided and are underway, to start a discussion topic, but I was feeling a bit anxious to see what everybody thought about the idea  :bigsmile:

Besides, the idea seems to be well-received, and I'm pretty sure I can host this without messing it up, besides, it's in my interest to prove myself with this and not do what some other people have done with their first tourneys.
OK then, thats fine :P
Just make sure you don't mess it up  ;)
Believe me, I really don't want to.
I'd love to be able to do more tourneys, maybe even with this idea (4 way SHW spinner battles FTW ;P)
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: JoeBlo on November 06, 2010, 03:15:43 AM
Sounds like a nice idea but your a little new to be hosting a tourney IMO

he is 19 days off being here for 3 months

you started your tournament after being here for 3 months

I cant see much difference in those numbers  ;)

*c*
Actually, that's a great idea for the arena joe, thanks, is it up for download here?

CCAI 1.2 patch, just take the files from there

Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Vertigo on November 06, 2010, 03:18:08 AM
Sounds like a nice idea but your a little new to be hosting a tourney IMO
he is 19 days off being here for 3 months

you started your tournament after being here for 3 months

I cant see much difference in those numbers  ;)
OK then, fair enough :P
I'd already entered 7 tourneys by the time I started mine though
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 06, 2010, 01:30:56 PM
Well i've updated the rules on numerous things.
The main thing is that component wedges are now banned in this tourney.

I also posted a picture of the arena, I skinned it myself  :dance:!
It's basic, but neat I think and thanks again to joe for recomending it, it's perfect for this tourney IMO.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: JoeBlo on November 07, 2010, 04:32:52 AM
looking good, glad its actually getting a use :P

it was made for CC3 but qualifying was removed for the complex and regretful format
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 07, 2010, 08:05:19 AM
looking good, glad its actually getting a use :P

it was made for CC3 but qualifying was removed for the complex and regretful format
Hmmm, I thought it was weird how it's called cc3 in the arena folders.
Also started work on the champions prize, skinning is done but I still need to do the modding of the component which may take a little while assuming what I have planned is possible (but from reading on other threads, I think it is quite simple to do actually).
Now, is there any other rules or things I need to add to this other than the prize?
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Naryar on November 08, 2010, 03:31:06 AM
Define component wedges

so i can loophole that rule muhahahaha
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 08, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
Define component wedges

so i can loophole that rule muhahahaha
Tutut, naughty Nar ;P
Component wedge = anywedge that's mounted on another component.
So no mako,skirt,metal hinge or MCB wedge(whatever that is).
Basically the only kind of wedge i'm allowing is a chassis wedge, because they're useless.

Now to get back to making that prize when I really should be doing revision for my maths gcse  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: NFX on November 08, 2010, 11:38:01 AM
MCB wedges utilise the odd collision mesh of the skirt hinge to create an invisible wedge that gets under opponents, like Dark Pounder in RW2. =P
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 08, 2010, 11:39:53 AM
MCB wedges utilise the odd collision mesh of the skirt hinge to create an invisible wedge that gets under opponents, like Dark Pounder in RW2. =P
Oh, i see.
Well they're definately not allowed ;P
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 18, 2010, 11:16:37 AM
Right, I don't really have time or the patience to finish the prize, so i'm just going to give the skin to the winner ;P.

Anyway, I presume I can give this the green tick, what happens if a tourney isn't voted in can I ask?
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on November 18, 2010, 11:19:23 AM
You wait until the next vote
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 18, 2010, 11:20:50 AM
Oh, that's alright then, for some reason I thought you had to abandon the tourney idea  :embarr
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: NFX on November 18, 2010, 11:57:57 AM
No, you just wait until the next time around. Was there a limit to how many failed polls you can have before the topic gets shut down?
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: 70 CUDA on November 25, 2010, 05:39:51 AM
im voting this simply for the no wedge rule. i love it. and look out for the drum TS combo guys lol. are drums not allowed front support. i use 80 cm angled skirts on an angle for mine. they are as useless as a chassis wedge IMHO
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: NFX on November 25, 2010, 08:14:23 AM
I'm not sure. If you had stabilisers sticking out of the sides, then I guess that's be alright.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Enigm@ on November 25, 2010, 09:01:51 AM
I'm entering when and if this is voted in. :D
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: NFX on November 25, 2010, 09:24:29 AM
BALLAST.

I mean, I'm also going to enter this.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 25, 2010, 10:30:28 AM
Cool  :bigsmile:
I have a feeling you'll have to wait 'till atleast the next votes though, this votes gonna be packed with cool tourneys by the look of things and i'm an immense pessimist ;P.

And CUDA, as NFX says, you could always use side stabilisers or a ballast instead.
Also, don't think i'll make a bot for this myself, not saying I don't want to, it's just probably best that hosts don't enter a bot anyway.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on November 25, 2010, 10:35:48 AM
Wedgeless VS FTW!!!
But SnSnSnSnSnSnS #whatever will pwn.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 25, 2010, 10:39:41 AM
SnS are only allowed if they are a hybrid between SnS and another spinner type (e.g SnS face hybrid)
:evilsmile:
I guess SnSnSnSnSnSnSnS or whatevers gonna have to be a VS or something aswell  :laughing
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: NFX on November 25, 2010, 10:42:02 AM
An SnS/Face Spinner hybrid? What the f*** have you been smoking?
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on November 25, 2010, 10:44:28 AM
SnS are only allowed if they are a hybrid between SnS and another spinner type (e.g SnS face hybrid)
:evilsmile:
I guess SnSnSnSnSnSnSnS or whatevers gonna have to be a VS or something aswell  :laughing
It's a SnS/ HS Hybrid built by Somebody.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Scorpion on November 25, 2010, 10:46:17 AM
An SnS/Face Spinner hybrid? What the f*** have you been smoking?
Meh, it was kinda more a joke (although i'm tempted to try and build one now  ;))
Besides, the rule about the SnS is just there because I want to promote lesser used spinner types, it wouldn't be very good if it was just loads of SnS vs loads of VS.
SnS are only allowed if they are a hybrid between SnS and another spinner type (e.g SnS face hybrid)
:evilsmile:
I guess SnSnSnSnSnSnSnS or whatevers gonna have to be a VS or something aswell  :laughing
It's a SnS/ HS Hybrid built by Somebody.
Oh, I didn't know it was a HS SnS hybrid actually, I just thought it was a very good SnS.
Well cool then, it'd be great if he entered with another version of that.
Title: Re: Total Carnage
Post by: Naryar on November 25, 2010, 10:47:39 AM
I built a SnS with FS weapons already. It failed. A lot.