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Title: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on March 04, 2010, 06:48:54 PM
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OK So this is an idea for a tournament.

We all know how in real life, roboteers have times to change there robots a little bit before a fight, well this tourney will let you do that! Before every round, you will restart the building process with your originally sent bot, or re-optimize the bot that you sent the round before.

Rules:
1. All bots will be DSL HW
2. Realistic Rule applies, and it will be very strict. This includes super stacked weapons (For example, HNM 3.2 would be disallowed because of the weapons stacked so tightly. This will be at my discretion).
3. No BFE (This includes chassis lowering), AAM, ZeroG, secret hax armor, or anything else outside of the bot lab besides skinning
4. No cheatbot2, cheat, or AI parts
5. No Trovaner Chassis Glitch, and No using skirt hinges as armor
6. At time of entry, all bots will have a weight minimum of 675 kgs and a weight limit of 700 kgs.
7. Within one week of when I say to send, every builder in that round will send me a new bot, which can weigh up to 800 kgs. If no bot is entered, the builder will use the original. I will not accept bots early, or late.
8. Uses of extra weight: Optimize Wedges, Add/Change Weapons, Add External Armor, or Change Wheels. You are not allowed to use the extra weight for: Adding Motors, or Adding Chassis Armor. You are not allowed to change the Control Board, Change motors (not including Metal Hinge and Skirt Hinges), or Remove Titanium Half-Sheets attached to Baseplate. You are allowed to move the control board and batteries within the chassis.
9. AFTER CHANGES, THE BOT TYPE MUST STAY THE SAME
10. If any bot is not sent by the end of the week, or the builder has not sent a legal bot by the end of the week, the builder will use the original sent bot.
11. You can also choose to use the same bot as a past round, just say so. Although saying in a PM would be better so the opponent doesn't know what you're entering
12. I will film with CAMstudio, and I can provide AIing sklz, but I would prefer that you AI yourself.
13. The arena will be the BBEANS Tournament Arena V2, hazards on.
14. NO AI WHINING
15. The original bot sent to me must be mobile
16. For simplicity, multibots are not allowed
17. Any entering user must be an active member who has stayed active during their time here. I don't want anyone joining and just leaving.
18. In the case of a havok, the match will be restarted once, and the second will be a forfeit of that match. You get one free restart per match. Each havok forfeit of a match will be counted as 1 loss. If you get two losses, you lose the battle. I will film all three fights anyways.
19. Each fight is a battle of a best of 3 matches. 1 vs. 1

This tournament is designed to have the builder gain a competitive edge on your opponent, while he can also do the same onto you, just like in a real tournament.

There will also be a losers bracket.

I am looking for this to be a proof of concept type tournament, so to make it simple, I'm planning for this to be only 8 Bots.

I will be entering as well.

Tell me what you think and I will add what I need if I need to when I need to if needed.

-Somebody
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Sparkey98 on March 04, 2010, 07:13:26 PM
you should need to change the wheels, as long as they are reveltivaly the same size, I see builders change wheels last minute all the time, even Biohazard had a wheel change in series one of BB to make him smaller
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Badnik96 on March 04, 2010, 07:16:48 PM
I hate to admit it, but Sparks is right. And I like this tourney. I should send something in...
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on March 04, 2010, 07:19:00 PM
Yea I agree with sparkles too. Will change.

EDIT: Done
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: JoeBlo on March 04, 2010, 07:19:33 PM
I agree with only allowing the addition of things.. I guess wheels are ok though

keeps it more realistic, doing things like

Frenzy adding the bar on the front to avoid a flipper,
Killerhurtz I believe added rubber to the front against surgeon general
Razer adding the hook to counteract the interchangeable tornado
Hazard adding side skirts and shortening the weapon for weight

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Sparkey98 on March 04, 2010, 07:23:20 PM
also, little known fact, in 1996 Bio had a tiny 2 cm lip added to the front of his skirts for more scoopage
 
also, I woder if ma baricade of 3 half plates could work to diflect spinners.
 
 
and why would you hate to admit it? I'm a n00b but sheesh I don't get that........
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Jonzu95 on March 04, 2010, 07:26:41 PM
Firestorm added more armour in Loser's final in season 5
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on March 05, 2010, 06:23:41 AM
Forgot to include about a losers bracket, will edit into first post soon.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Thyrus on March 05, 2010, 08:20:23 AM
I like that Idea. I may enter with one of my showcase bots (if I`ll enter)
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Clickbeetle on March 05, 2010, 07:24:06 PM
Here's your official tourney logo!


(http://blog.ivman.com/wp-content/Change.jpg)


This is a good thing to try with 8 bots first.  I've thought of this concept, but the problem is that it requires audience participation.  The bigger the tournament is the slower it moves and the more likely people will lose interest over time.  8 bots should be perfect.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Naryar on March 05, 2010, 07:32:12 PM
"When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can be turned into deadly projectiles"

Whoa, that sounded badass... though "projectiles" isn't the most suited word :P
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on March 05, 2010, 09:45:10 PM
When the winds of change blow hard enough, parts go flying and robots are dying?

Could make a good motto...
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: H@zm47 on March 06, 2010, 01:12:26 AM
Interesting idea, Somebody.
I will try to build something for this if it goes ahead.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Condor33 on March 06, 2010, 09:00:38 AM
This is a good idea, but I could build a 200KG chassis and just bolt on whatever I wanted to it as long as the internals are the same and the weapon is still the same type? That sounds like a bit too much freedom. You might want to put a lower limit on the 750kg weight limit.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Mouldy on March 10, 2010, 11:52:04 PM
Firestorm added more armour in Loser's final in season 5
They had to beat dirtor even though dirtor cheated by stealing there flipper mech's.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Naryar on March 11, 2010, 06:49:06 AM
Hopefully the bots won't be as random as Chinese Whisper's.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on March 11, 2010, 10:20:22 AM
*Looks at Naryar's CW bot*

ROFL
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on March 11, 2010, 09:18:17 PM
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I've changed the weight limit in the first post. Down to 700 kilos.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on March 12, 2010, 10:12:02 AM
Is there a minimum weight?
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on March 14, 2010, 06:49:37 PM
Yknow what S_M just said gave me an idea (combined with what C33 said)
He could just send a 200kg bot and bolt on a crapload of other stuff. The minimum weight is 650 kgs, with the maximum weight as 700 kgs, at sending. Then other things are obviously put on.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on May 02, 2010, 05:44:30 PM
Updated the rules. Will probably post signups soon.

Any questions/confusions should be posted now. I cannot change the rules after posting the signups.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Bubbleman on May 03, 2010, 02:32:16 AM
I would of loved to do this....I cant though as i've only been on for, about, 2 months. :FFFUUU
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: G.K. on May 03, 2010, 02:34:03 AM
GRRR. I'm 19 days short of being able to enter.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on May 03, 2010, 03:58:47 AM
I'm 21 days short.....
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: JoeBlo on May 03, 2010, 05:49:19 AM
I'm 10 months tall :P
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Stagfish on May 03, 2010, 10:52:40 AM
wait, wheres that rule?
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: G.K. on May 03, 2010, 10:59:27 AM
17. Any entering user must be an active member who has been a member of GTM for at least 6 months. I don't want anyone joining and just leaving
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: JoeBlo on May 03, 2010, 11:05:18 AM
since we just hit may to put it simply that means only people with a join date of Oct 2009 or earlier can enter
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Gazea2 on May 03, 2010, 11:25:58 AM
I wouldn't mind entering this but I joined in February. :/
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Badnik96 on May 03, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
Yays I can compete :)
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on May 03, 2010, 07:41:00 PM
Well a lot of strikes and that rule is out! (Ya I just got back from my baseball game and I'm in the mood. Also struck out twice though  :FFFUUU )

It is now changed to being active during the amount of time that you have been here. So if someone like eishiba comes back (no offense to him) I probably wouldn't let him in because he only visits sporadically.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: G.K. on May 04, 2010, 12:11:16 AM
Why thank you kind soul.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Bubbleman on May 04, 2010, 01:54:44 AM
Yay! :dance: :dance: :dance:
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on May 23, 2010, 12:06:47 PM
OK The official announcement is being made! Signups will open on June 6th (unless I forget XD, but I will try not too)

Get your bots ready and we can get the signups done quickly, much like BBEANS 6.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on June 05, 2010, 09:34:29 PM
Announcement: I am going to push this back a bit. I need some more time.

I am thinking Monday the 14th of June (I realized I need to practice my camera sklz, plus other things got in the way). Signups will be open until the 26th, or whenever I get 8 entrants, and then we will get this rolling.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Naryar on June 06, 2010, 06:34:22 AM
Just read the rules... this is helping flail shell spinners a lot.

I do have my idea though... so we should change our weaponry according to the next opponent ?
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on June 06, 2010, 08:33:21 AM
Weaponry would most likely be the main thing changed. Although you can also change wheels or strengthen external armor and/or wedges. Some of the rules, like no extra chassis armor, are to hurt shell spinners so when they know that they are against a popup, they can't take off their top row of spikes and make the armor really strong.
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Naryar on June 06, 2010, 09:22:09 AM
O WAIT are you allowing crawlers ?
Title: Re: The Winds of Change Tournament
Post by: Somebody on June 06, 2010, 09:30:04 AM
Sure. I am not limiting types, but I recommend some types over others, such as popups, crawlers, jugglers, etc. Because they are more customizable. Be aware however that this will be in the BBEANS Tournament Arena V2, and we all saw how Bumble Bee ended up.