The Great Round Robin 2-IRL SBV

[cephalopod]

Yeah I might send you a binding for Beef, I'm not liking that it didn't even attempt to self-right when it could've, and might well have changed the result of the match.

[Agaton]

Yeah I might send you a binding for Beef, I'm not liking that it didn't even attempt to self-right when it could've, and might well have changed the result of the match.

You shouldn't really be 'fixing' or 'updating' once the splash is out.

[Elementos]

Yeah I might send you a binding for Beef, I'm not liking that it didn't even attempt to self-right when it could've, and might well have changed the result of the match.

You shouldn't really be 'fixing' or 'updating' once the splash is out.

And not to go against you Craaig, (because I know the whole self-righting thing is a major issue) but you could've avoided all this by sending a Bindings line in the first place.

[Shield]

In his defense it's just an AI change. It's not like he edited the bot. I'd allow it. This non self righting thing is a glaring issue.

[Elementos]

In his defense it's just an AI change. It's not like he edited the bot. I'd allow it. This non self righting thing is a glaring issue.

I get what you're saying but I mean If I'm not allowed to send an update before the matches have even been recorded, then surely it would be unfair for someone to completely change how their bot thinks (The AI) after it's competed in two matches, no?

[Shield]

In his defense it's just an AI change. It's not like he edited the bot. I'd allow it. This non self righting thing is a glaring issue.

I get what you're saying but I mean If I'm not allowed to send an update before the matches have even been recorded, then surely it would be unfair for someone to completely change how their bot thinks (The AI) after it's competed in two matches, no?

It's just the way it performs. How it uses the tool, not what tool it uses.

And such an essential thing like the ability to Self-right especially for a hammer should not be absent.

[nicsan2009]

Match day 3 is up.

#williamjones

[S.T.C.]

For a whle I thought I couldn't find my fight, then I saw why.

I was hoping that match would go down that way, I like how one half of FSS turned itself over.

[Philippa]

topkek

[cephalopod]

Yeah I might send you a binding for Beef, I'm not liking that it didn't even attempt to self-right when it could've, and might well have changed the result of the match.

You shouldn't really be 'fixing' or 'updating' once the splash is out.

This isn't fixing - it's something that should've happened before filming started. When a host AI's a bot, they should make sure it works as expected. So this isn't on me kid.

And not to go against you Craaig, (because I know the whole self-righting thing is a major issue) but you could've avoided all this by sending a Bindings line in the first place.

As I said, when a host AI's they should try and ensure it works as expected (no offence nicsan, you're a great host).

In his defense it's just an AI change. It's not like he edited the bot. I'd allow it. This non self righting thing is a glaring issue.

I get what you're saying but I mean If I'm not allowed to send an update before the matches have even been recorded, then surely it would be unfair for someone to completely change how their bot thinks (The AI) after it's competed in two matches, no?

It's just the way it performs. How it uses the tool, not what tool it uses.

And such an essential thing like the ability to Self-right especially for a hammer should not be absent.

It shouldn't be absent at all. Nothing has been changed with the bot - I simply asked nicsan to use Chopper instead of (probably) Omni, which he has very graciously done, thanks man.

[nicsan2009]

Yeah that one was my bad it was on me for not AIing it perfectly but the bot itself is you.

[cephalopod]

Yeah, I wouldn't do anything to the bot because that would be updating and/or fixing which isn't cool. Thanks again for sorting that issue, much appreciated :)

[El Chickenado]

2 oota horizontal spinner ... wat

[yugitom]

Surely you only needed the 'Srimech' command on the controls and it would have worked perfectly well on Omni.py.

What a thrilling match of the ages between me and TT. Also, williamjones has yet to be defeated properly! All these cowards think they can just win on a technicality, just because their bots are vastly inferior to him.

[Agaton]

This isn't fixing - it's something that should've happened before filming started. When a host AI's a bot, they should make sure it works as expected. So this isn't on me kid.

Kid? All I did was dropping your quotes because you're playing hypocrite. Pretending that changing an AI isn't fixing is complete bull. A LOT can be improved and tuned to match the current competition. And no, if the host ai's your bot its because you were to lazy not to and should not be able to complain, especially not 2 matches in. I guess 4000+ posts and a nice host does help. The only reason I'm arguing is because you set the bar when not allowing Elementos to send his correct version before the tourney started and if I was the one asking to send a new AI, I would not be surprised if you would have said no. For being such an experienced user, you're the one acting like a kid here changing rules as you go.

[nicsan2009]

This isn't fixing - it's something that should've happened before filming started. When a host AI's a bot, they should make sure it works as expected. So this isn't on me kid.

Kid? All I did was dropping your quotes because you're playing hypocrite. Pretending that changing an AI isn't fixing is complete bull. A LOT can be improved and tuned to match the current competition. And no, if the host ai's your bot its because you were to lazy not to and should not be able to complain, especially not 2 matches in. I guess 4000+ posts and a nice host does help. The only reason I'm arguing is because you set the bar when not allowing Elementos to send his correct version before the tourney started and if I was the one asking to send a new AI, I would not be surprised if you would have said no. For being such an experienced user, you're the one acting like a kid here changing rules as you go.

Enough of this pointless fighting and get back to the actual fights of the tournament. You need to understand that I would let anyone request a change to their binding if it is something like not flipping itself back over. In real tournaments you aren't gonna just watch as your bot gets flipped over. As for Elementos it was a gracious request and I could've accepted it but that would have caused so much more drama than needed. Also you can't just switch spots. Craaig is one of the more experienced users here, but that doesn't mean he hasn't earned his right to say the things he does. He's been a good member for so long and he's the damn moderator of the tournament section for crying out loud so he does in fact have seniority above most any of us. Now does that mean he gets special treatment absolutely not if it was Sparkey that made a request like Craaig did I would've said yes in a heartbeat, and if Craaig,Naryar, JB, any of those guys that have been here since I have or longer and have contributed greatly asked to update their bot after the deadline I would have had to say no like I did here. No more arguing about this because frankly it isn't worth all the drama.

[Mr. AS]

"Updating" would imply that he's changing the actual bot design itself, not the AI line.

[Agaton]

Enough of this pointless fighting and get back to the actual fights of the tournament. You need to understand that I would let anyone request a change to their binding if it is something like not flipping itself back over. In real tournaments you aren't gonna just watch as your bot gets flipped over. As for Elementos it was a gracious request and I could've accepted it but that would have caused so much more drama than needed. Also you can't just switch spots. Craaig is one of the more experienced users here, but that doesn't mean he hasn't earned his right to say the things he does. He's been a good member for so long and he's the damn moderator of the tournament section for crying out loud so he does in fact have seniority above most any of us. Now does that mean he gets special treatment absolutely not if it was Sparkey that made a request like Craaig did I would've said yes in a heartbeat, and if Craaig,Naryar, JB, any of those guys that have been here since I have or longer and have contributed greatly asked to update their bot after the deadline I would have had to say no like I did here. No more arguing about this because frankly it isn't worth all the drama.

Aight I'm sorry nicsan, sorry Craaig.

ontopic:

you almost had that one williamjones!

[090901]

mfw williamjones hammer outwedges helloface's wedge

[Jakewilliamson]

Double havok = what a way to lose.