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Title: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 02, 2016, 04:08:36 PM
Posting on mobile so this may be a little on the wack side. I'll reorganize everything when I get back to a keyboard.

General Rules:
-DSL 2.2
-16 entrants max
-If empty spaces are present after signup close, bye-bots will take the remaing spaces to make a even bracket, and will be from the stock DSL AI
-1v1
-2 minutes matches, Best of 3, double elimination
-DSL Tournament Arena, hazards on
-Multibots are banned
-Meltybrain is banned
-Crawlers, TRFD, trinity spinners, bumble balls, and robots that attempt to create havok explosions are banned
-You cannot enter unless a bot is received and accepted
-I have the right to reject any bot under any condition

Building Rules
-DSL standard
-HW, 399.1-800
-Rule of 7 bypass is allowed
-The other two features of sergepatcher, component intersection and attachment freedom are not
-cheatbot2, stock, and custom components are banned
-All the usual out of game exploits are banned (BFE, AAM, etc)
-Bots must show controlled movement
-At least 2 powered wheels are required
-Smartzones do not add toward's your weight, however they cannot be used as ballasts/mounts and must be Madiaba's smartonzes that are included in 2.2

Other
-Bots get one free havok restart for a game-changing havok that has a major impact on the fight. A second havok will result in a round loss for the offending bot
-One update is allowed per person. This can be as major as a rebuild or as minor as a skin
-I can AI if you are not willing/unable to
-No cheaty .pys
-Builders who AI their own bot can change their robot's AI once and only once during the tournament (smartzone included)
-Zero tolerance for blatantly illegal robots, builders who send an illegal entry will be disqualified from entering another robot. Things that  I would consider blatant would include bfe/aam, custom components, and cheat .pys
-I will be entering with tba

Awards
-The winner and runner up will be awarded with the tournament AI and bots

tldr: it's a DSL-S tournament with no gimmicks

Any other suggestions or ideas you guys have?

Signups:
1. Geice
2. DeadGenocide
3. RedAce
4. battledutchman
5. d-lark
6. [color=greenBadger[/color]
7. Thrackerzod
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
15.
16.

Orange - Received
Green - Accepted and AI'd
Red - Problem

Initial Deadline: June 28, 2016 12:00pm EST
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: yugitom on June 03, 2016, 07:44:06 AM
Everything seems okay to me but I'd just like a bit of elaboration as to what you constitute as a major havok explosion and what the cap is for updates (couple of parts changed here and there, an entirely different robot, etc.)

Oh, just saw this. Considering you are talking about the use of byes, you must say when you are going to use them. For example, would you use 4 or 12 byes in the event you only get 4 entrants? In this case, I don't think you need a screenshot of the byes because they are from the AI teams. It seems a bit obvious but I'm just going by the guidelines set out by GK.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: RedAce on June 03, 2016, 07:58:04 AM
So you're somewhat going down the BBEANS route with how the weightclass and game is done.  Alright then, seems pretty self-explanatory.  I'll probably enter.

Edit: Just noticed the illegal entries rule.  I get why you put that in, but it seems kinda strict in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: Badger on June 03, 2016, 08:13:49 AM
Looks good, I'm a fan of the illegal bot rule, discourages people from submitting cancer. I'm gonna enter something. We definitely need more tournaments.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: Witherana on June 03, 2016, 08:24:42 AM
It sound fun. expect a KillerWhale !!
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: Naryar on June 03, 2016, 12:06:06 PM
No-frills DSL HW tournament. I'm in !

Quote from: battledutchman on June 03, 2016, 08:24:42 AM
It sound fun. expect a KillerWhale !!

just make sure to not send something with cheatbot2 or custom components first... this is a dsl 2.2 standard tournament

Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 03, 2016, 01:07:24 PM
Ooh, first tournament using the rule of 7 bypass.  Wonder how much difference that will make.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: 09090901 on June 03, 2016, 01:36:18 PM
I've adjusted some of the rules and added my entry. Tried to clarify on how bye-bots, havok restarts and the illegal entry rule would work, but if you have any other suggestions then let me know.

Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 05, 2016, 12:10:12 AM
Is the "all attachment points can attach to all other attachment points" thing OK or not?
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: d-lark on June 05, 2016, 11:47:58 AM
I'd probably enter if this were to start and wrap up within a month or so.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: Witherana on June 06, 2016, 11:40:09 AM
Quote from: battledutchman on June 03, 2016, 08:24:42 AM
It sound fun. expect a KillerWhale !!

Quote from: Naryar on June 03, 2016, 12:06:06 PM
just make sure to not send something with cheatbot2 or custom components first... this is a dsl 2.2 standard tournament

i am better now. its nothing like killerwhale 1 or AngryKillerwhale
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: 09090901 on June 06, 2016, 11:50:49 AM
Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 05, 2016, 12:10:12 AM
Is the "all attachment points can attach to all other attachment points" thing OK or not?
Gonna have to say no to that, along with the no collisions part. I might allow it for future tournaments, but right now I'd prefer to stick to the current meta.

Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: 09090901 on June 06, 2016, 06:31:21 PM
DP

Just noticed I can't add a poll to this topic. Is this part of some new rule I'm unaware of, or did it just break sometime during one of the fourm updates?

Aside from that, I'll be adding some type of logo pretty soon. Won't be the prettiest thing ever, but hey, it's better than a bunch of empty space.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: yugitom on June 06, 2016, 07:00:23 PM
You should be able to add a poll. Once I see Trov back in action a bit more, I'll contact him about it. In the meantime, would you like me to add a poll for you?
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: 09090901 on June 06, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
Quote from: yugitom on June 06, 2016, 07:00:23 PM
You should be able to add a poll. Once I see Trov back in action a bit more, I'll contact him about it. In the meantime, would you like me to add a poll for you?
Yeah, feel free to whenever you get the time. Thanks in advance
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Discussion
Post by: yugitom on June 08, 2016, 02:54:06 PM
Quote from: Geice on June 02, 2016, 04:08:36 PM
Posting on mobile so this may be a little on the wack side. I'll reorganize everything when I get back to a keyboard.

General Rules:
-DSL 2.2
-16 entrants max
-If empty spaces are present after signup close, bye-bots will take the remaing spaces to make a even bracket, and will be from the stock DSL AI
-1v1
-2 minutes matches, Best of 3, double elimination
-DSL Tournament Arena, hazards on
-Multibots are banned
-Meltybrain is banned
-Crawlers, TRFD, trinity spinners, bumble balls, and robots that attempt to create havok explosions are banned
-You cannot enter unless a bot is received and accepted
-I have the right to reject any bot under any condition

Building Rules
-DSL standard
-HW, 399.1-800
-Rule of 7 bypass is allowed
-The other two features of sergepatcher, component intersection and attachment freedom are not
-cheatbot2, stock, and custom components are banned
-All the usual out of game exploits are banned (BFE, AAM, etc)
-Bots must show controlled movement
-At least 2 powered wheels are required
-Smartzones do not add toward's your weight, however they cannot be used as ballasts/mounts and must be Madiaba's smartonzes that are included in 2.2

Other
-Bots get one free havok restart for a game-changing havok that has a major impact on the fight. A second havok will result in a round loss for the offending bot
-One update is allowed per person. This can be as major as a rebuild or as minor as a skin
-I can AI if you are not willing/unable to
-No cheaty .pys
-Builders who AI their own bot can change their robot's AI once and only once during the tournament (smartzone included)
-Zero tolerance for blatantly illegal robots, builders who send an illegal entry will be disqualified from entering another robot. Things that  I would consider blatant would include bfe/aam, custom components, and cheat .pys
-I will be entering with tba

Awards
-The winner and runner up will be awarded with the tournament AI and bots

tldr: it's a DSL-S tournament with no gimmicks

Any other suggestions or ideas you guys have?
This is now a signups topic and the rules quoted mustn't change. You've got 90 days, enjoy! :)
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 08, 2016, 03:01:31 PM
Thanks yugi

Original deadline for entries will be June 28 at 12:00PM
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: RedAce on June 08, 2016, 04:21:54 PM
Quick question: Do you care if we send in song suggestions and/or theme songs like last time or naw?

Oh don't worry.  I'll get my entry sent tonight.  I'm not sure if anyone else is having issues with the file host, but I can't help but feel it's not working properly at the moment.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 08, 2016, 05:01:54 PM
Quote from: RedAce on June 08, 2016, 04:21:54 PM
Quick question: Do you care if we send in song suggestions and/or theme songs like last time or naw?

Oh don't worry.  I'll get my entry sent tonight.  I'm not sure if anyone else is having issues with the file host, but I can't help but feel it's not working properly at the moment.
Feel free to send song suggestions/theme songs in. Same as last time, I'll use a theme song for all your fights if you choose.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 08, 2016, 11:52:35 PM
Got DG's and Redace's bots. I'll look over them sometime tomorrow
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 10, 2016, 01:01:30 AM
got battledutchman's killerwhale
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: AHeapOfGames on June 15, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
How do I enter?
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: Badger on June 15, 2016, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: AHeapOfGames on June 15, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
How do I enter?
Make sure your bot is made in DSL and is a HW. Just making sure since all your videos use stock bots.


Then upload your bot through this link (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?page=page1580). The exported bot file will be in [DSL install loaction]/Robot Designs. The bots in this competition will be pretty high-level and efficient unlike the IRL style bots in your videos though, so keep that in mind. Just making sure.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 15, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: Badger on June 15, 2016, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: AHeapOfGames on June 15, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
How do I enter?
Make sure your bot is made in DSL and is a HW. Just making sure since all your videos use stock bots.


Then upload your bot through this link (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?page=page1580). The exported bot file will be in [DSL install loaction]/Robot Designs. The bots in this competition will be pretty high-level and efficient unlike the IRL style bots in your videos though, so keep that in mind. Just making sure.

Just adding on: once you upload the bot, send a PM to the tournament host with the link to the bot.

Good luck!
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: yugitom on June 15, 2016, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: AHeapOfGames on June 15, 2016, 01:17:42 PM
How do I enter?
If you're confused about anything, be sure to check the Complete Tutorial Index (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17300.0) made by Craaig and, if you're still confused as to how to enter, check the Beginners Guide To Entering A Tournament (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17179.0) also made by Craaig.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 15, 2016, 02:30:23 PM
Yeah just send it to me via PM. Doesn't have to be AI'd or anything, just make sure it's DSL 2.2 and follows the DSL-Standard ruleset.

Got badgers bot. I'll look at it later when I get off work. Rest of bots look okay so far, just need to be AI'd.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 23, 2016, 02:02:41 PM
5 days left enter.

Hoping for at least one more entry so we can have an even eight.
Title: Re: The Cauldron 2: DSL Edition - Signups
Post by: 09090901 on June 27, 2016, 03:47:13 AM
1 day left to enter.
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