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Title: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on July 29, 2012, 05:51:20 AM: It's been two whole years. I think it's time for my first sequel. Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder.

Each entrant will build a team consisting of a Lightweight, a Middleweight, and a Heavyweight. When they send the team, they will specify the order the team should be entered. (LW, then MW, then HW...MW, HW, then LW, whatever). This will be the order they are entered in every rumble they participate.

The matches will be 4 way rumbles. the first bot on each team will face off against each other. When the first bot in a rumble is eliminated, the match is stopped and the eliminated bot is replaced with the next one on that team. The match is then restarted. This continues until there is only one team left. That team is declared the winner of the match and moves on. If the match goes to time, the bot with the lowest point total is the one eliminated. In the highly unlikely event of a tie (be it an equal score or two bots being eliminated at the same time) both bots are eliminated.

1. This will be a DSL tournament
2. No custom components, cheatbot, BFE, Haxmode, AAM or any other cheaty stuff
3. skinned components ARE allowed
4. Standard DSL Realism enforced.
5. Arena will be the Ring Arena
6. Havok restart rule: A bot can have one free havok restart. A second one in a match, and that bot is eliminated. If in the same match a bot from the same team gets yet another havok, that entire team is eliminated (thanks for the suggestion NFX)
7. A Maximum of 6 flails PER TEAM are allowed (2 more from last time)
8. Because I love the things so much, Ring Spinners are allowed.
8a. Ring Spinner builder rules.
a. chassis must be close to the same size and shape as your ring. No tiny square chassis with a extra large disc.
b. only thing the disc is allowed to pass through is motors and wheels. batteries and control board must still be clear.
9. As always, I strongly encourage you to AI your own bots, however, if you can't, I will do it for you.
10. Crawlers are also allowed, but no bumblebots, trinity flyers, nasty pickles, controlled movement is key.
11. Loophole closer: Popups and True popups count as the same bot type for the "all bots must be different types" rule. Same goes for SS and FSS.
12. Due to the amount of bots involved, only 16 entrants allowed, with a wildcard match. last 4 to enter will go through a separate match. the one coming out on top will become entrant number 16.
13. Team themes strongly encouraged, In the very least, I want a team name.
14. In the interest of shortening the vids, the time limit on the heats will be 2 minutes.
15. Nicsan get an automatic entry if he wants it for winning In The Air Tonight.
16. I will enter if there is space for me, if not, it's all you guys.
17. You are allowed ONE update of your team. This can be either minor changes to the entire team (each bot stays the same original bot type, just changing weapons around or adding more armor as an example) OR you may do a major change to ONE bot (becomes a completely new bot). This is mostly to prevent an abundance of placeholders.
18. "Clickbeetle Caught Me Rule": All bots on a team must be different types.

My entry: Team "With a Baseball Bat"

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/87568pbj.png)

Peanut is a HS, Butters a Ring Spinner, and Jelly? is..I'm calling it a SnFs (sit and face spin). I'm entering them in LW/MW/HW order.

Entrants:

entered and approved
problem
entered, approved and AI'd
reserved spot

1. ty4er
2. skbt
3.marty
4. 090901
5. squirrel_monkey
6. conraaa
7. nicsan
8.urjak
9. MassimoV
10 Ogre
11 Clickbeetle
12 G.K.
13 Pwnator
14 Jack Daniels
15 Mr. Awesomesauce
16.Yoda
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: ty4er on July 29, 2012, 07:15:52 AM: totally entering this
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Naryar on July 29, 2012, 07:19:28 AM: Entering as well.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: NFX on July 29, 2012, 07:23:21 AM: I'd love to enter this, the last time seemed great. Maybe with the havok rules, if a bot havoks twice, it gets disqualified, then if another bot havoks once, the whole team is disqualified. It'll prevent someone from making a team full of havok-prone bots, but not discourage people who might make one slightly unstable design by accident.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Mr. AS on July 29, 2012, 11:14:56 AM: will enter
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: freeziez on July 29, 2012, 11:25:23 AM: Let's go for 7th again
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: 090901 on July 29, 2012, 11:27:22 AM: Wait do I still get to use my prize parts? :trollface
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Badnik96 on July 29, 2012, 11:31:05 AM: lol

Totally entering this.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: 090901 on July 29, 2012, 11:32:56 AM: Quote from: freeziez on July 29, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
Let's go for 7th again
You better enter wedgie again.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: freeziez on July 29, 2012, 11:35:58 AM: Quote from: 090901 on July 29, 2012, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: freeziez on July 29, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
Let's go for 7th again
You better enter wedgie again.

i am
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: 090901 on July 29, 2012, 11:37:00 AM: Quote from: freeziez on July 29, 2012, 11:35:58 AM
Quote from: 090901 on July 29, 2012, 11:32:56 AM
Quote from: freeziez on July 29, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
Let's go for 7th again
You better enter wedgie again.

i am
I love you 100% homo.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on July 29, 2012, 04:20:11 PM: Quote from: 090901 on July 29, 2012, 11:27:22 AM
Wait do I still get to use my prize parts? :trollface

They're legal for you for all my tournaments. yuppers.

Quote from: NFX on July 29, 2012, 07:23:21 AM
I'd love to enter this, the last time seemed great. Maybe with the havok rules, if a bot havoks twice, it gets disqualified, then if another bot havoks once, the whole team is disqualified. It'll prevent someone from making a team full of havok-prone bots, but not discourage people who might make one slightly unstable design by accident.

very elegant. Think I'll use that. thanks.

Oh yeah, one thing I forgot. Not required, but team themes are encouraged. Can be as simple as a naming theme, or skin theme, or something more complicated.

GO WEDGIE!!!!
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Tweedy on July 29, 2012, 09:07:37 PM: I'm definitely entering this
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: cephalopod on July 30, 2012, 06:28:20 AM: I'd love to get in on this one.. am I right in thinking that the rumbles end up with loads of different weightclasses? *fears for my LWs*
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: martymidget on July 30, 2012, 06:38:12 AM: I am so in on this. Just need a LW :L
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on July 30, 2012, 07:59:33 AM: Quote from: Craaig on July 30, 2012, 06:28:20 AM
I'd love to get in on this one.. am I right in thinking that the rumbles end up with loads of different weightclasses? *fears for my LWs*

right you are. LW, MW, and HW all mixed up together. Should be pretty chaotic.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: NFX on July 30, 2012, 09:33:16 AM: Quote from: yoda9726 on July 30, 2012, 07:59:33 AM
Quote from: Craaig on July 30, 2012, 06:28:20 AM
I'd love to get in on this one.. am I right in thinking that the rumbles end up with loads of different weightclasses? *fears for my LWs*

right you are. LW, MW, and HW all mixed up together. Should be pretty chaotic.

It would be quite funny to watch a HW splattering three LWs about the place. Although it would be even funner to watch a HW getting torn apart by three LWs.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on July 31, 2012, 06:15:32 AM: I'll let the poll run for a few more days, then we'll know for sure which version we're going with.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on August 01, 2012, 05:22:16 PM: Eh, good enough. with a 15 to 9 lead, LW, MW, and HW with the entrant choosing the order is now the official word. I'm relieved. no longer a possibility for there to be seven bots on a team.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Conraaa on August 03, 2012, 03:30:04 PM: Curses! My plan foiled!
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on August 03, 2012, 06:25:06 PM: Now you got me curious. PM it to me if you don't wanna reveal it lol
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on August 06, 2012, 06:07:06 AM: green ticky
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Clickbeetle on August 17, 2012, 12:28:19 AM: Quote from: yoda9726 on July 29, 2012, 05:51:20 AM
11. Loophole closer: Popups and True popups count as the same bot type for the "all bots must be different types" rule. Same goes for SS and FSS.

What rule is that? I see no "all bots must be different types" rule. Time to enter 3 flippers! :trollface

Assuming you meant to make such a rule though, serious question: How do you treat hybrids? For example, this bot

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/98807motherlode.jpg)

is primarily a VS, but it also has a flipper. Does it count for both or just VS?

Also, do flamethrowers count as a separate bot type? I would argue they shouldn't, because they are almost always used as secondary weapons on other bot types. (Also, I want to make a fire-themed team.)
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: freeziez on August 17, 2012, 12:31:58 AM: Quote from: Clickbeetle on August 17, 2012, 12:28:19 AM
(Also, I want to make a fire-themed team.)

one of us is going to have a very bad time
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on August 17, 2012, 03:04:55 AM: Quote from: Clickbeetle on August 17, 2012, 12:28:19 AM
Quote from: yoda9726 on July 29, 2012, 05:51:20 AM
11. Loophole closer: Popups and True popups count as the same bot type for the "all bots must be different types" rule. Same goes for SS and FSS.

What rule is that? I see no "all bots must be different types" rule. Time to enter 3 flippers! :trollface

Assuming you meant to make such a rule though, serious question: How do you treat hybrids? For example, this bot

(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/98807motherlode.jpg)

is primarily a VS, but it also has a flipper. Does it count for both or just VS?

Also, do flamethrowers count as a separate bot type? I would argue they shouldn't, because they are almost always used as secondary weapons on other bot types. (Also, I want to make a fire-themed team.)

Good eye, Click. Apparantly I deleted something I didn't mean too. Rules updated to include the different type rule.

As to your question....Hybrids will count as whatever they're main type is. If it's clearly a VS with a bit of a flipper, it's a VS. If it's a hybrid that's basically a 50/50 mix, i'll count it as both types. Flamethrowers follow along the same rule. If the bot is clearly a Drum with some extra flamethrower action, it counts as a drum. Flamethrower bots will only count as a bot type if they're primarily flamethrowers. And even if you enter a pure flamethrower, you'll be allowed to use flamethrowers a secondary weapon on other bots on your team.

All the above will be carefully scrutinized under my discretion. I'll be fairly lenient in this regard, but will be a hardass if need be. Basically, don't push the limits too far, and you'll be fine.

I realize this is a fairly subjective thing, but it's difficult to set down a concrete rule. I want to encourage hybrids, and creative bots, but I don't want 3 flippers with tiny alterations to push them into hybrid territory, y'know?
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Naryar on August 17, 2012, 06:19:26 AM: I SHALL DEFEAT ALL WHO OPPOSE ME !
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Phoenyx on August 17, 2012, 06:21:45 AM: Ring arena? Looks like I'll be entering this one.

EDIT: I can see why AGOD can be annoying...
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Mr. AS on August 17, 2012, 10:14:35 AM: well time to spam high fracture armor all over my bots*

*if i bother to make my entries
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: NFX on August 20, 2012, 02:21:20 PM: This topic is now a signups thread.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: nicsan2009 on August 21, 2012, 01:46:39 PM: Just finished my bots and they are oh so dangerous. :evilsmile: Will send sometime today.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Badnik96 on August 21, 2012, 04:10:12 PM: Will be putting something together soon.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on August 22, 2012, 04:08:12 AM: Halfway there. Looking to be a good one, too.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on September 03, 2012, 06:24:41 AM: Five spots remaining. Let's get some more entries.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Jack Daniels on September 03, 2012, 02:40:03 PM: Carp! I gotta build something... but I just picked up Guild Wars 2. q.q

I'll get something together even if it means I have to call in dead for work!
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: G.K. on September 03, 2012, 02:49:02 PM: Got to get my act together if I want to enter this, yet I also have a 4k word essay to write by Thurs...
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Badnik96 on September 03, 2012, 03:58:31 PM: May or may not still make something. Depends on whether I want to enter old bots or not.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: G.K. on September 03, 2012, 06:10:36 PM: I've made my LW and MW :D. Even if the MW is quite bad.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on September 12, 2012, 05:54:44 AM: Dropping the wildcard. Three more entries and we can get this thing started
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Naryar on September 12, 2012, 08:47:08 AM: well i'll have to hurry then
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Jack Daniels on September 12, 2012, 07:37:34 PM: My feeble attempt at a team has been submitted. :gawe:

Can't wait. Hopefully my luck from In The Air Tonight will be with me again this time.
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: Mr. AS on September 12, 2012, 08:00:29 PM: inb4 someone sent thier entry right before i just did
Title: Re: Survival of the Fittest 2: Survive Harder
Post by: yoda9726 on September 12, 2012, 08:22:38 PM: Technically fulled up now. I'll got a busy next couple of days, though, so if I get an entry I'll give up my spot. if I get 3 or 4 entries in that time, the wildcard will be back on.