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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: Mr. AS on May 11, 2014, 06:41:13 PM

Title: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 11, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
Let's get this show on the road.

Matchups:

Standings (spoilers):

Videos
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 11, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
Good luck everyone, and make sure to be aggressive. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Philippa on May 11, 2014, 06:45:46 PM
Go Kossy! <3
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Post by: Wacky Bob on May 11, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
(It's "Betwixt 2.0")

So I'm facing Wolfsbane first. The two side hammers. Should be fun.

Poor RPJK. I don't think he could have a worse matchup.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 11, 2014, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on May 11, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
(It's "Betwixt 2.0")

So I'm facing Wolfsbane first. The two side hammers. Should be fun.

Poor RPJK. I don't think he could have a worse matchup.

Glad to fight you too. Wonder if 4 hammers and 2wd is better than 2 hammers and 4wd.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Virus Bomb on May 11, 2014, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on May 11, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
Poor RPJK. I don't think he could have a worse matchup.

nah he could have a chance if his wedges are better.

i expected more hses in this. kos will probably win if his bot can handle those popups
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wacky Bob on May 11, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
Quote from: Wolfsbane on May 11, 2014, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on May 11, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
(It's "Betwixt 2.0")

So I'm facing Wolfsbane first. The two side hammers. Should be fun.

Poor RPJK. I don't think he could have a worse matchup.

Glad to fight you too. Wonder if 4 hammers and 2wd is better than 2 hammers and 4wd.

Actually, I have 4WD too (axle loading) but yours has more defense.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 11, 2014, 08:05:19 PM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on May 11, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
Quote from: Wolfsbane on May 11, 2014, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on May 11, 2014, 07:05:43 PM
(It's "Betwixt 2.0")

So I'm facing Wolfsbane first. The two side hammers. Should be fun.

Poor RPJK. I don't think he could have a worse matchup.

Glad to fight you too. Wonder if 4 hammers and 2wd is better than 2 hammers and 4wd.

Actually, I have 4WD too (axle loading) but yours has more defense.
Only problem, it might have TOO MUCH defence, I never tested it with the blades to protect the ramming rack.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: RedAce on May 11, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Let's take a look and see our competitors:

Bear Kills: Looks very vicious, It may do very well here.

Betwixed 2.0: Not bad, I don't know how well it will do.

Blood Shed: I don't know if the armor will hold up against my first opponent.

Drumblebee 9: Looks pretty cool, how well can those wedges hold up?

Fire Phoenix: Why is the ramming weapon set up like that?

I ran out of bot names: It may fly out of the arena with that speed.

Northern Face: Lots of weapons and no frontal protection. Let's see if that will affect anything.

Ruaumoko: I don't even know if it will do well.

Savior: A good looking hybrid, It could go far.

Swamp Demon 3: Reckoning: It looks okay, kinda a weird setup, It may do pretty well in the tourney.

Taldeer: It's a popup, It could do pretty good in the tourney if the chassis holds up.

VictimiZer: Cool looking hybrid. I don't know if it will do well because of the turning.

Windmill: It could do pretty good in the tourney if the narrowness doesn't affect much with it.

Artic Punch (VeNoM): Looks like an efficient rammer. I think it has a pretty decent shot here.

These bots are looking pretty tough to beat. I wonder how this will go overall. Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 11, 2014, 08:46:20 PM
Quote from: RedAce on May 11, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Fire Phoenix: Why is the ramming weapon set up like that?

I was going for a Wammer/Side Hammer hybrid, though I do admit, the weapons are a little too steep.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mecha on May 11, 2014, 09:21:44 PM
I'm just proud i didn't enter a popup or a 36 HS. :D

Quote from: RedAce on May 11, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Artic Punch (VeNoM)

Quote from: Mr. AS on May 11, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
Arctic Punch (AKA VeNoM)

Why do yall keep saying that? :P I atleast rebuilt the chassis....
(also yay for sage's skin pack)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Clickbeetle on May 11, 2014, 09:46:35 PM
Only one HS?  That's got to be a stock HW tournament first.  I was expecting way more of them, especially with a rumble format included.

Quote from: Virus Bomb on May 11, 2014, 07:38:57 PM
i expected more hses in this. kos will probably win if his bot can handle those popups

Whoever can handle those popups will win.  KOS, or the wedgiest wedge.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: madman3 on May 12, 2014, 04:50:48 AM
Very few weak bots here, this looks like it'll be fun.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Shield on May 13, 2014, 10:29:08 AM
Quote from: RedAce on May 11, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Northern Face: Lots of weapons and no frontal protection. Let's see if that will affect anything.

at least i'll look cool

i mean how could anyone waste that skin for a ramplate

i know i could've placed the darn logo on the top instead but hey it's too late for that now is it
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Badnik96 on May 13, 2014, 11:30:43 AM
welp im losing to chris

my bot is so bouncy the wedges barely work. Not nearly as many HS as I expected though, that's nice at least.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 13, 2014, 09:28:03 PM
Round 1 up. (http://i.imgur.com/JT0mE2q.gif)

http://youtu.be/uCFyjmvTi8s (http://youtu.be/uCFyjmvTi8s)

Round 2 matchups also posted. Reminder that you lose a stock ONLY if you are KO'd / OOTA'd / lose by points, or if your team auto-loses by havok. If one bot on a team is eliminated and the other carries the team to victory, the eliminated bot still loses a stock. Just so there's no confusion.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Badnik96 on May 13, 2014, 09:44:20 PM
Im losing another stock

Why did I enter such an unstable bot ;_;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 13, 2014, 10:18:12 PM
Looks like I still got it.

I'm sorry, Click. You may have helped me in the past, but i'm afraid i'm going to have to destroy you.  :Naryar
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Shield on May 14, 2014, 02:58:45 AM

EDIT: Just noticed me and Mechadino have ice themed bots.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wacky Bob on May 14, 2014, 07:11:59 AM

Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: RedAce on May 14, 2014, 04:30:10 PM
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Post by: Badnik96 on May 14, 2014, 04:38:02 PM
I feel confident in literally one matchup out of those four. Maybe two.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 14, 2014, 05:42:20 PM
Round 2 up.

http://youtu.be/233Y7bqOU4c (http://youtu.be/233Y7bqOU4c)

Matchups for up to round 5 up.


edit: er, it should be up in a few moments.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: KOS on May 14, 2014, 05:52:20 PM
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Post by: Mecha on May 14, 2014, 06:56:35 PM
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Post by: RedAce on May 14, 2014, 07:43:22 PM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on May 14, 2014, 09:08:11 PM
That rammer battle was the funniest thing I have seen so far.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 15, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
Round 3

http://youtu.be/GOsLHPaWY98 (http://youtu.be/GOsLHPaWY98)

Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: RpJk on May 15, 2014, 04:39:04 PM
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Post by: KOS on May 15, 2014, 04:47:42 PM
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Post by: RedAce on May 15, 2014, 05:00:30 PM
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Post by: Shield on May 15, 2014, 06:05:36 PM
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wacky Bob on May 15, 2014, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: KOS_Flow on May 15, 2014, 04:47:42 PM

At first, I thought you were talking to yourself.


So I'm against Northern Face in Round 4. I hope my wedges are good since I sacrificed some weapons for ballasts.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Shield on May 16, 2014, 01:55:11 AM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on May 15, 2014, 08:03:45 PM
Quote from: KOS_Flow on May 15, 2014, 04:47:42 PM

At first, I thought you were talking to yourself.


So I'm against Northern Face in Round 4. I hope my wedges are good since I sacrificed some weapons for ballasts.

No worries you have this in the bag
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Badnik96 on May 16, 2014, 09:23:55 AM
As long as I dont die in this next round or OOTA Bear Kills I'll be safe for the Metal Emergency matchup.

then i'm going to lose my last stock :V
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 16, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
Round 4: http://youtu.be/vgL-YUhfuQ4 (http://youtu.be/vgL-YUhfuQ4)
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Post by: KOS on May 16, 2014, 05:07:09 PM
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Post by: Badnik96 on May 16, 2014, 05:09:16 PM
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wolfsbane on May 16, 2014, 05:44:14 PM
Mr. AS, can you see if you can fix my ai? Change it any way you want, The only thing i want to keep is turnspeed
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mecha on May 16, 2014, 06:01:06 PM
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Post by: RedAce on May 16, 2014, 06:41:13 PM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on May 16, 2014, 08:22:41 PM
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 19, 2014, 06:32:43 PM
Round 5: http://youtu.be/MaBiKxCMw_s (http://youtu.be/MaBiKxCMw_s)

Also, I'm going to be uploading videos more slowly because of driver's education for the next two weeks. Please understand.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: KOS on May 19, 2014, 06:44:09 PM
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Post by: Badnik96 on May 19, 2014, 06:44:53 PM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on May 19, 2014, 06:54:54 PM
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Post by: RedAce on May 19, 2014, 07:07:54 PM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on May 19, 2014, 07:10:14 PM
Wait, Taldeer still has 2 stocks, right?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 19, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
Oh... yeah. Thanks for noticing that. Fixed now, thought
won that match for a second.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Clickbeetle on May 21, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
Why is Drumblebee's weapon always on?  Did you use the AI I gave you?  It should look like this:

Code: [Select]
    list.append(("Drumblebee 9","EcoOmni",{'range':99,'radius':1,'topspeed':100,'throttle':100,'turn':100,'turnspeed':2,'UseSpinZone':1,'StartSpinup':0,'weapons':(15,16,17,18,20,22,23,24,26,28,29,30,33,34,35,36,39,40,41,42,45,46,47,48,51,52,53,54,57,58,59,60)}))

It bounces slightly when it spins, which ruins the wedge, so it's only supposed to spin when a bot is in the smart zone.

Come to think of it, Swamp Demon could use this AI too, though that would have been Badnik's responsibility to AI it that way.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Badnik96 on May 21, 2014, 11:55:08 PM
I completely forgot that python file existed until now :dumb)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 22, 2014, 06:48:31 AM
The binding I'm using looks like this:
Code: [Select]
    list.append(("Drumblebee 9","EcoOmni",{'range':99,'radius':1,'topspeed':100,'throttle':100,'turn':100,'turnspeed':2,'UseSpinZone':1,'StartSpinup':0,'weapons':(15,16,17,18,20,22,23,24,26,28,29,30,33,34,35,36,39,40,41,42,45,46,47,48,51,52,53,54,57,58,59,60)}))
So yeah, it should be the same binding you sent me. Your bot even has the smartzone and everything. I'll see if there's anything I can do about it. Although I already have rounds 6 and 7 recorded, so anything I do to your bot won't be seen until round 8.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Clickbeetle on May 23, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
Weird, it works on my computer, even in the DSL Tourney arena.  Maybe you have an old version of EcoOmni.py?  It should have been last modified 4/9/2011, and if you open it up, it should say at the top, "# Has the option of using a smart zone for spinner activation."  Get the latest version here (http://beetlebros.gametechmods.com/files/AIessentials.zip) if you need it.

If that's not the problem, then setting 'range' to something small like 2 and changing 'UseSpinZone' to 0 should be good enough.

Quote from: Mr. AS on May 22, 2014, 06:48:31 AM
I already have rounds 6 and 7 recorded

Why aren't they posted yet?  Maintaining a buffer?

If Drumblebee obviously loses due to the AI not working as intended, I hope you'll consider re-filming the fight with the correct AI.  It would be pretty hard to tell if it lost only because of the AI though.  If it could normally get under Ruaumoko every time, but instead Ruaumoko gets under Drumblebee every time with the bouncy AI, I think it would be a safe bet to call it the AI's fault.  But if Ruaumoko can sometimes get under Drumblebee even with the correct AI, I don't think there's anything you can do.

(Excluding Windmill in this discussion because going back and re-filming round 6 would probably get too messy.)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 24, 2014, 05:10:42 PM
The bonus round should be up here in a few minutes: http://youtu.be/F1pHKlsJubU (http://youtu.be/F1pHKlsJubU)

Quote from: Clickbeetle on May 23, 2014, 07:59:15 PM
If Drumblebee obviously loses due to the AI not working as intended, I hope you'll consider re-filming the fight with the correct AI. 

But yes, I will make sure Drumblebee uses the right version of ecoomni.py next round I record.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 24, 2014, 05:30:26 PM
-and round 6 is up. http://youtu.be/baweXjtQ0IQ (http://youtu.be/baweXjtQ0IQ)

May or may not edit + upload round 7 tonight. Will record round 8 and 9 soon.
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Post by: Naryar on May 25, 2014, 07:54:13 AM
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Post by: Badnik96 on May 25, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
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Post by: Shield on May 25, 2014, 09:21:15 AM
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Post by: Mr. AS on May 25, 2014, 11:01:49 AM
Quote from: Badnik96 on May 25, 2014, 09:19:36 AM

Also, round 7 should be up by tonight.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Wacky Bob on May 25, 2014, 11:09:31 AM


Savior in Round 7. I hope I can do what I did in Round 3.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Kossokei on May 26, 2014, 10:25:42 PM
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 27, 2014, 07:38:37 PM
Round 7 is being uploaded. Watch this space.

(the video link will be http://youtu.be/1Vpx7tdtFzA (http://youtu.be/1Vpx7tdtFzA) when the upload is finished)
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Post by: Wacky Bob on May 27, 2014, 09:40:55 PM
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Post by: Shield on May 28, 2014, 02:44:36 AM
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Post by: RedAce on May 28, 2014, 03:26:13 AM
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Post by: Kossokei on May 28, 2014, 01:39:56 PM
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Post by: 090901 on May 28, 2014, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: S.H.I.E.L.D on May 28, 2014, 02:44:36 AM
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Post by: Shield on May 29, 2014, 05:09:36 AM
Quote from: 090901 on May 28, 2014, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: S.H.I.E.L.D on May 28, 2014, 02:44:36 AM

That's not what everyone else is saying
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 29, 2014, 06:12:45 PM
http://youtu.be/pp2Z-QmclG8 (http://youtu.be/pp2Z-QmclG8)

Check back in like, 5 minutes. It should be up.


e: It's up.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: RedAce on May 29, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
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Post by: 090901 on May 29, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: RedAce on May 29, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
and that me and Wacky Bob are the only ones here with more than one stock is sorta shocking to me.[/spoiler]
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Post by: Badnik96 on May 29, 2014, 06:58:02 PM
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Post by: RedAce on May 29, 2014, 07:32:24 PM
Quote from: 090901 on May 29, 2014, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: RedAce on May 29, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on May 29, 2014, 07:53:53 PM
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on May 30, 2014, 11:18:52 PM
Hey GTM. Can you guys give me an opinion of if this match from a future round warrants a havok restart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrVuawcA1xw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrVuawcA1xw#)

I'm thinking that Blood Shed havok jumped into Bear's weaponry, and then got KO'd by it a half-second later when VictimiZer gave it a slight nudge into bear. It wouldn't have been killed had it not havoked. Does everyone else agree?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: 090901 on May 30, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
I believe it warrants a restart since the havok was caused by the DDT wedge falling being ripped off of VictimiZer.
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Post by: Naryar on May 31, 2014, 03:38:41 AM
Normally I would give a restart because what 09 said... but yet again Blood Shed was 3WD and completely unbalanced in drive at this point. A popup which is unbalanced in drive in a melee like that is going to lose if he isn't under a bot. Promptly.

So i'm not quite sure about that.

I will have a look at your rules and then give my decision though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Clickbeetle on May 31, 2014, 11:36:05 PM
I would restart that fight if it was me... however, it's ambiguous enough that I would consider just dumping that fight without penalizing Victimizer.


Also, that custom EMERGENCY is hilarious to watch.  Kind of wish you made bonus rounds more frequent.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: Mr. AS on June 02, 2014, 09:39:59 PM
Round 9 = http://youtu.be/6VNn0TmtyxE (http://youtu.be/6VNn0TmtyxE)


Also, my 3-hours-a-day-for-10-days driver's ed course is finished, uploading should commence as usual.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bots - SBV
Post by: J on June 02, 2014, 09:55:51 PM
I seriously love how you made a 'Fighting Polygon Team' out of EMERGENCY.
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Post by: Wacky Bob on June 03, 2014, 07:56:02 AM
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Post by: Clickbeetle on June 04, 2014, 12:28:18 AM
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Post by: Mr. AS on June 05, 2014, 10:06:58 PM
Round 10: http://youtu.be/gTwzrTVKav0 (http://youtu.be/gTwzrTVKav0)

It's literally just one match.
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Post by: RedAce on June 06, 2014, 04:19:36 AM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on June 06, 2014, 08:33:32 AM
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Post by: KOS on June 06, 2014, 10:58:29 AM
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Post by: Mr. AS on June 09, 2014, 05:11:15 AM
Bonus Round 2: http://youtu.be/s6Dy-UvfCKg (http://youtu.be/s6Dy-UvfCKg)

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Post by: Wacky Bob on June 09, 2014, 06:36:57 AM
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Post by: Mecha on June 09, 2014, 09:22:07 AM
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Post by: RedAce on June 09, 2014, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 09, 2014, 06:36:57 AM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on June 09, 2014, 10:33:39 AM
Quote from: RedAce on June 09, 2014, 10:10:26 AM
Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 09, 2014, 06:36:57 AM
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Post by: Mr. AS on June 11, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
http://youtu.be/hQ7xiYW7msU (http://youtu.be/hQ7xiYW7msU)

^ Round 11 ^

I'm trying to finish up the tourney by the 20th. Cheer me on GTM.
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Post by: RedAce on June 11, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
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Post by: Wacky Bob on June 11, 2014, 08:50:34 PM
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Post by: KOS on June 12, 2014, 10:48:18 AM
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Post by: Mr. AS on June 14, 2014, 09:50:16 PM
Bing bang boom tourny's finished GG WP no re

Round 12 - http://youtu.be/jVJX-811j_I (http://youtu.be/jVJX-811j_I)
Final Round - http://youtu.be/_F_sagw-txc (http://youtu.be/_F_sagw-txc)

Multiman melee 2 music sounds so cheesy in RA2, lol.

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