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Title: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 09:26:01 AM
Hey guys, im planing on starting a tournament and I want your opinions on it.

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Rules (Format):

DSL HW IRL
55 bots, battlebots format, two entries per person.
There will be a desperado tournament which opens half way. People can apply and I will accept the ones that I think deserve to be there.
There will also be a final chance tourney(single elimination) where all the unchosen 3-1 bots and 2-2 bots fight to get the 16th seed. If byes are necessary, they will be given to the robots that performed the best. (e.g. 3-1 bot over 2-2 bot)
Component freedom allowed
ObJRA 2 and BFE allowed
No Custom Components
Both Flatmotors, Razer Claw Motor and the Overkill Motor are allowed in regards to CB2.
All IRL packs and coloured bars are allowed.
Before a fight, builders are allowed to adjust 80 kg of their bot to prepare for their next fight. Interchangeable bots can change their modules and then apply this 80kg. Also this 80kg is not necessary and I think the tournament will be most realistic if you don't use this opportunity every time.


Rules(Competition):

Robogames arena
3 minute Matches
Havoks will cause a restart. If a havoc happens 5 times, it will go to a judges decision based on all five matches.

35/55

Signups:
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Hoppin on September 22, 2018, 11:10:54 AM
Personally I think its easier to have alternate attachments on entry.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 11:11:52 AM
Im having alternate attachments too, but I just think it would be interesting to see people making minor adjustments to their bot to prepare for a fight. (like hyper shocks rake or something). I don't know, do you reckon 80 kg is too much to be allowed to adjust?
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: [cringey name goes here] on September 22, 2018, 11:24:32 AM
well i mean ok but i doubt tyou are going to get 55 different entries
also, it feels like you are copying battlebots a tad too much
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 11:29:07 AM
I tries to distinguish it from battlebots with the whole last chance tourney thing. Also if I cant get 55 entries I will make entries 3 per person.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 12:11:29 PM
If i get 13 yes votes, i will do the tournament
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Gulden on September 22, 2018, 01:41:16 PM
If i get 27 yes votes, i will do the tournament
Are there even 27 people still active on gtm?
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Hoppin on September 22, 2018, 01:44:39 PM
If i get 27 yes votes, i will do the tournament
Are there even 27 people still active on gtm?

27 assbee's alts.

Also, it's actually 13ish votes for signups given it's 2 entries per person.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 01:56:27 PM
Fixed
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Hoppin on September 22, 2018, 02:12:24 PM

Havoks will cause a restart. If a havoc happens 5 times, it will go to a judges decision based on all five matches.


Will you show all 5 fights?
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 02:16:17 PM
Only highlights.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Badger on September 22, 2018, 02:25:23 PM
My dude, you're setting yourself up for a massive fail here. Trust me, put this on ice for a short while and host a tournament with max. 8 entries first. You want to make this awesome idea reality but you have no idea how much time/effort it will take. There's a reason that it used to be a rule that your first tournament had to be limited to 8 entries.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 02:40:24 PM
Ive already recorded a tournament with this exact same format with my own bots. The only difference will be using other peoples bots.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Badger on September 22, 2018, 02:57:10 PM
Recording is literally the easiest part of a tournament. Receiving, checking and AIing all the entries then producing splashes is far more difficult and time consuming, and unless you're very organised it can become an organizational nightmare very quickly. The format of your tournament makes this even more challenging, as every single modification of a bot is essentially a new entrant that you need to do everything except make a splash for all over again.

At the end of the day it's your choice, but I guarantee that it will only end up going one way.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 03:00:29 PM
Again, my AI standard means it literally takes 2 minutes per robot and episodes will also be weekly meaning that at most it's 13 bots a week. But you have to factor in that for a lot of fights people won't make changes and a lot of people will use their own AI considering how bad mine is.

I will also make splashes as entries come in to stop it piling up.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Hoppin on September 22, 2018, 03:07:50 PM
Again, my AI standard means it literally takes 2 minutes per robot and episodes will also be weekly meaning that at most it's 13 bots a week. But you have to factor in that for a lot of fights people won't make changes and a lot of people will use their own AI considering how bad mine is.

I will also make splashes as entries come in to stop it piling up.

Editing?
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 03:09:46 PM
By recording, I mean making a bunch of episodes so yes editing too.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Billy5545 on September 22, 2018, 06:14:16 PM
My dude, you're setting yourself up for a massive fail here. Trust me, put this on ice for a short while and host a tournament with max. 8 entries first. You want to make this awesome idea reality but you have no idea how much time/effort it will take. There's a reason that it used to be a rule that your first tournament had to be limited to 8 entries.
To be honest, while this is a good idea, I have a feeling that there is the max 16 entry rule for first time hosts. In fact, one of the reasons why I hosted Robot Emperor with 16 entries, aside from practicing on hosting and tourney, is that it's because in the rules

Edit: Also, will you add Badnik's recolor pack, like the recolored Frenzy Hammers and Robot X casters.
And also, the disc covers. And oh, how about cheatbot2 components? Will you adopt a stance like me and Gulden and allow them all except for overly abusive ones, or be like a lot of tourney hosts and only allow specific ones, like the flatmotor and overkill servo
And finally, do you want to add a rule about walkers, shufflers, clusterbots/minibots, or drones? And also, if people should AI servobots and walkers themselves if they want to enter it
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 22, 2018, 06:33:13 PM
Nobody really seems to have a problem with it, and ive tested the format by making a practise tournament before so I think it'll be fine. As for all of the things you said in your edit, can you send me a pm for the links to the two mods you mentioned and ill include them in the sign ups. As for chatbot 2 components, i will allow both flat motors, overkill motor and the razor claw motor. All of this will be added in the signups.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: [cringey name goes here] on September 22, 2018, 07:05:33 PM
I tries to distinguish it from battlebots with the whole last chance tourney thing. Also if I cant get 55 entries I will make entries 3 per person.
See that would be fine and dandy if Battlebots didn't have a Last Chance RUMBLE. I thought this was just a stand in because RA2 doesn't allow more than 4 bots.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Billy5545 on September 22, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
Nobody really seems to have a problem with it, and ive tested the format by making a practise tournament before so I think it'll be fine. As for all of the things you said in your edit, can you send me a pm for the links to the two mods you mentioned and ill include them in the sign ups. As for chatbot 2 components, i will allow both flat motors, overkill motor and the razor claw motor. All of this will be added in the signups.
Well, you can find those components I mentioned on the custom components section of the download page. Also, i forget to mention, but also how about recolored slipperbottom wheels, Geese's NPC fic, improved battery AP, Mr AS rebalance pack, and component reskinning
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 23, 2018, 04:04:26 AM
I tries to distinguish it from battlebots with the whole last chance tourney thing. Also if I cant get 55 entries I will make entries 3 per person.
See that would be fine and dandy if Battlebots didn't have a Last Chance RUMBLE. I thought this was just a stand in because RA2 doesn't allow more than 5 bots.

Thats a fair point, but overall I don't really see a problem with copying Battlebots considering its the most popular robot fighting show in the world and the format is amazing. Maybe next tournament I do, i may change the format around a little bit.


Nobody really seems to have a problem with it, and ive tested the format by making a practise tournament before so I think it'll be fine. As for all of the things you said in your edit, can you send me a pm for the links to the two mods you mentioned and ill include them in the sign ups. As for chatbot 2 components, i will allow both flat motors, overkill motor and the razor claw motor. All of this will be added in the signups.
Well, you can find those components I mentioned on the custom components section of the download page. Also, i forget to mention, but also how about recolored slipperbottom wheels, Geese's NPC fic, improved battery AP, Mr AS rebalance pack, and component reskinning

I think ill keep it at the disc covers and the recoloured frenzy hammers, don't really see need for any of the others. However if anybody makes a bot with one of these (par from component reskins, that would be way too hard to keep up with the whole 80kg thing). Ill be happy to download one of them. Besides, im using DSL 2.3 which already has a bunch of these mods in them.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: Billy5545 on September 23, 2018, 04:32:03 AM
I tries to distinguish it from battlebots with the whole last chance tourney thing. Also if I cant get 55 entries I will make entries 3 per person.
See that would be fine and dandy if Battlebots didn't have a Last Chance RUMBLE. I thought this was just a stand in because RA2 doesn't allow more than 5 bots.

Thats a fair point, but overall I don't really see a problem with copying Battlebots considering its the most popular robot fighting show in the world and the format is amazing. Maybe next tournament I do, i may change the format around a little bit.


Nobody really seems to have a problem with it, and ive tested the format by making a practise tournament before so I think it'll be fine. As for all of the things you said in your edit, can you send me a pm for the links to the two mods you mentioned and ill include them in the sign ups. As for chatbot 2 components, i will allow both flat motors, overkill motor and the razor claw motor. All of this will be added in the signups.
Well, you can find those components I mentioned on the custom components section of the download page. Also, i forget to mention, but also how about recolored slipperbottom wheels, Geese's NPC fic, improved battery AP, Mr AS rebalance pack, and component reskinning

I think ill keep it at the disc covers and the recoloured frenzy hammers, don't really see need for any of the others. However if anybody makes a bot with one of these (par from component reskins, that would be way too hard to keep up with the whole 80kg thing). Ill be happy to download one of them. Besides, im using DSL 2.3 which already has a bunch of these mods in them.
For component reskins, you just copy paste the component files for them in the appropriate places. Basically, the same way you install new components that you downloaded
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Discussion
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 26, 2018, 01:55:28 PM
I've made the logo:
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Come on guys, I need 3 more yes votes to get this into signups!
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: Hoppin on September 27, 2018, 10:27:08 AM
Hey guys, im planing on starting a tournament and I want your opinions on it.

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Rules (Format):

DSL HW IRL
55 bots, battlebots format, two entries per person.
There will be a desperado tournament which opens half way. People can apply and I will accept the ones that I think deserve to be there.
There will also be a final chance tourney(single elimination) where all the unchosen 3-1 bots and 2-2 bots fight to get the 16th seed. If byes are necessary, they will be given to the robots that performed the best. (e.g. 3-1 bot over 2-2 bot)
Component freedom allowed
ObJRA 2 and BFE allowed
No Custom Components
Both Flatmotors, Razer Claw Motor and the Overkill Motor are allowed in regards to CB2.
All IRL packs and coloured bars are allowed.
Before a fight, builders are allowed to adjust 80 kg of their bot to prepare for their next fight. Interchangeable bots can change their modules and then apply this 80kg. Also this 80kg is not necessary and I think the tournament will be most realistic if you don't use this opportunity every time.


Rules(Competition):

Robogames arena
3 minute Matches
Havoks will cause a restart. If a havoc happens 5 times, it will go to a judges decision based on all five matches.


Do you think this is plausible, especially the 80kg modification rule which is something i really want to keep to set this tournament apart from others. I will enter one bot.

You are now in signups. The quoted rules cannot change. Good luck
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 27, 2018, 10:37:23 AM
Does it matter if I got rid of the "do you think this idea is good" txt
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: Hoppin on September 27, 2018, 10:38:44 AM
Does it matter if I got rid of the "do you think this idea is good" txt

No
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 27, 2018, 02:19:32 PM
Both of MrBK's entries have been accepted and AI'ed
{cringey}'s first bot has been accepted and AI'ed
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 30, 2018, 04:35:30 AM
Hoppin first entry accepted.
Cloud Killer entry 1 accepted, entry 2 denied.
Neon both entries accepted.
Pokebro first entry accepted.
Both Evil Toaster entries accepted
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on September 30, 2018, 11:08:58 AM
Both entries of Moziet accepted
Both entries of Primeval accepted
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on October 05, 2018, 12:20:32 PM
Both Entries of Plerco accepted
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on October 08, 2018, 01:52:49 PM
Both entries of Bild accepted
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on October 12, 2018, 01:52:52 AM
Hoppins 2nd entry accepted
Both of DaddyDJents entries accepted
Both of Code Reds entries accepted
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on October 14, 2018, 06:18:06 AM
both entries of Guldenflame accepted.
2nd entry of Pokebro accepted.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: Team Code Red Robotics on October 19, 2018, 04:45:00 PM
Could you just use the competitors you have, then make do with the format (top 8, no desperate, ect)
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on October 28, 2018, 11:35:44 AM
tbh, id rather wait and get a good tournament

Both entries of Kix Accepted
Both entries of Nightraven accepted
Billys Bot Accepted
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on November 08, 2018, 09:58:48 AM
Sorry for the delay guys, ive been very busy, ill be able to check the new robots this weekend.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: Bildschirm on November 13, 2018, 03:51:44 AM
Do you think that you will get more entries? I mean i think that 55 spots are kinda high from someone who never made a tournament before
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: Billy5545 on November 13, 2018, 04:40:54 AM
Do you think that you will get more entries? I mean i think that 55 spots are kinda high from someone who never made a tournament before
Tbh yeah. I mean, I think there's few more potential users, like Badger, who don't join because they are unsure if you can finish it probably
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: Team Code Red Robotics on November 13, 2018, 04:54:41 AM
Do you think that you will get more entries? I mean i think that 55 spots are kinda high from someone who never made a tournament before
Tbh yeah. I mean, I think there's few more potential users, like Badger, who don't join because they are unsure if you can finish it probably

So maybe you should do 3 robots per person, or just take what you can, and do the tourney
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: [cringey name goes here] on November 13, 2018, 05:54:23 AM
Do you think that you will get more entries? I mean i think that 55 spots are kinda high from someone who never made a tournament before
Tbh yeah. I mean, I think there's few more potential users, like Badger, who don't join because they are unsure if you can finish it probably
Badger don't do RA2 no more
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on November 18, 2018, 05:44:59 AM
Hey guys, ive been very busy this month, i will check all the entries by December and post an update on December 1st. Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: FlamesOfIce on November 30, 2018, 11:34:37 AM
Hey guys! Im back.

Olister 92's first entry accepted
8bean's first entry accepted
Sickle Robotics first entry accepted, the second one (sick boy) denied for being nearly 400 kg overweight.
Both of SagarisRA2's entries accepted
Kix's second entry (Hammerhead) revoked as it wasn't working. He said he will probably enter another robot instead.

20 TO GO!
Title: Re: Shred Bots - Signups
Post by: courthousedoc on December 05, 2018, 12:16:02 PM
Hmm sure I might enter this, I have a few bots lying around... I might also use this as sort of a test run for Undertow II.