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Title: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 19, 2010, 01:37:38 PM
Right, time for my first tourney, just a little thing, so that i don't bite of more than i can chew

(http://sharetv.org/images/scrapheap_challenge_uk-show.jpg)


Rules:
Dsl 2.1 HW
Realistic Rule is On
Multi bots Allowed
Fights are death matches
Best 2 of 3
8 entrants only
brackets will be knockout stlye
No losers bracket
All bot building in the bot lab, so no BFE or AAM
A bot will get a restart ONLY for havoks, but they get unlimited havok restarts (no forfeits)
fights will be in the dsl Blade arena, with hazards on
Bots must show controlled movement
Please ai i can ai but it's not that good so i take no responsibility for a loss due to my ai-ing
Bots can be upgraded any amount during signups but once they close thats it

You may only use components on this list

Prizes
And a reserved space in my next tournament at least
There may be some other things aswell
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on September 19, 2010, 01:38:18 PM
Erm... another tourney?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 19, 2010, 01:40:10 PM
yeah well i expec this one to only be ready in a few months but im posting the discussion now
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on September 19, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
But in a few months bigger and better tourneys will outcompete this. I'm sorry for you as your intentions are good but chances are with the current system this won't be voted in.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: powerrave on September 19, 2010, 01:42:06 PM
well, if this goes well, i may enter.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: somestrangeguy on September 19, 2010, 01:42:25 PM
Limiting the parts you can use is a nice different idea. Gives that Scrapheap feeling "you get what you can find".

That show was quite nice I used to watch Scrapheap Challenge whenever I remembered to watch it.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on September 19, 2010, 01:44:12 PM
I know, have a scrapheap picture with many hidden components in different sections. Then people pick spots from certain sections and get the components hidden there.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on September 19, 2010, 01:45:23 PM
If the list includes something without normals I might enter an edited Swamp Demon.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 19, 2010, 01:47:16 PM
they're almost all going to be components that get outclassed by others (normals, non ant batteries etc)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on September 19, 2010, 01:52:39 PM
I like this idea. Using components that aren't that good in most cases. I might enter this. =]
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Stagfish on September 19, 2010, 02:07:41 PM
Maybe only one of each component? It would be more like we were finding stuff from the scrapyard.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 19, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
then everyone would use the irons and razors and beater bars as their main weapons
nice thinking stag but its not really what im going for

anyway are there any problems with the rules, i want to get them sorted before anything else
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on September 19, 2010, 02:17:46 PM
Wait a sec, this is DSL? I thought it was Stock >:P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 19, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
Quote from: J24 on September 19, 2010, 01:37:38 PM
Dsl 2.1 HW

Edit: quick idea of parts list in first post
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GroudonRobotWars on September 19, 2010, 03:05:39 PM
Even if it goes through I might not be able to enter this.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 19, 2010, 03:07:36 PM
Quote from: J24 on September 19, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
are there any problems with the rules, i want to get them sorted before anything else
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Somebody on September 19, 2010, 04:04:12 PM
Just make sure you allow a lot of weapons. Otherwise a few bot types will be screwed.

Also, can we use something other than the DSL Tournament arena? I feel that it is being used in too many tournaments.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on September 19, 2010, 04:16:32 PM
Well, what were you expecting from an arena actually called the Tournament arena?  :P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on September 19, 2010, 04:51:42 PM
I just had a chat with the other arenas. They felt nelgected. =[

I think what most people like about the DSL Tournament arena, is that it's an open arena with minimal hazards and low walls. Then you can focus more on the bots fighting, and less about luck with the arena.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 20, 2010, 12:33:10 AM
The only reason i selected that arena was because i wanted an oota stlye arena but couldntndecide which
Is The ring arena good? Or something else?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Hydro on September 20, 2010, 08:38:19 AM
This reminds me of Junkyard Wars.



I'd be happy to enter.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on September 20, 2010, 09:10:01 AM
Make the rules more precise and i'll enter.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on September 20, 2010, 11:38:49 AM
Quote from: Hydro on September 20, 2010, 08:38:19 AM
This reminds me of Junkyard Wars.



I'd be happy to enter.
Scrapheap Challenge is the original name for Junkyard Wars.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Hydro on September 20, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
...Oh.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Vertigo on September 20, 2010, 12:47:34 PM
How many tourneys have you actually entered yourself J24?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 20, 2010, 02:11:40 PM
uhh, 3, but this probably isnt going to run for a while, im just getting it ready now

Also, did i mention that some lists will have good components, in exchange for rubbish ones elsewhere
I.E. one list will have ant batteries in exchange for four different wheels
Or is that taking it too far?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on September 21, 2010, 08:34:18 AM
Maybe a bit far. Keep the wheels the same, just make them rubbish, like Micros, or T-Minus wheels or something.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on September 21, 2010, 09:11:56 AM
Put Geared Beta's on one list and I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Daemon on September 21, 2010, 11:30:52 AM
Is anyone  going to manage stock tournament?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Clickbeetle on September 21, 2010, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: J24 on September 19, 2010, 03:07:36 PM
Quote from: J24 on September 19, 2010, 02:13:38 PM
are there any problems with the rules, i want to get them sorted before anything else


Is it best 2 of 3 battle format, or just 1?


And what will you do if someone enters and you give them their component list, but they never send you a bot?


Possible alternative: post all of the different component lists for everyone to see, so when people enter they will already have a bot all ready.  The only downside to that is that you could get multiple bots using the same component list, but if they're balanced enough then overlap should be minimal.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on September 22, 2010, 02:09:41 AM
click you are a genius!! thank you!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 01, 2010, 06:06:09 PM
Dp
Bump-idly ump bump, bump bump!

Srsly though, i updated the first post with a near final components list

And if anyone has 3d studio max or the like, i would love some sharp rusty pieces of metal as prizes
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 01, 2010, 07:05:54 PM
What's the red fork? D'you mean the Bracket thing that Sentinel has?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on October 01, 2010, 07:53:02 PM
Only WBC wheel?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 02, 2010, 02:07:13 AM
@nfx yes
@badnik this isnt the final list yet, but its very close
when i get back from school im going to finalise everthing
so probably is the awnser

Edit: no i changed them to N-12s, and changed the NPC regulars to...
Wait for it...
Waaaaaait fooooor it...

CAR STEERING!

and this is going to be in the blade arena, not the tourney arena, since it sorta feels more like a scrapheap to me

Oh and does anyone know a free alternative to 3d studio max or whatever its called that lets me make mesh for components?
Sharp Rusty Metal FTW!!!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on October 02, 2010, 06:52:52 AM
Wings 3D is free and makes .3ds files I think. A pain to work with though.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 02, 2010, 07:03:02 AM
I'll definitely enter! (Bot name - Scrapyard Havok)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 02, 2010, 07:09:47 AM
Serge tells me that only 3D Studio Max allows you to import .gmf files into Robot Arena 2, though.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: G.K. on October 02, 2010, 07:10:30 AM
Quote from: Badnik96 on October 02, 2010, 06:52:52 AM
Wings 3D is free and makes .3ds files I think. A pain to work with though.

I wish people would stop saying this. a .3ds file doesn't help. NFX is absoultely correct.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 02, 2010, 07:13:03 AM
Oh well then
Does anyone have it btw?
Because i would love to have some sharp rusty metal as a prize

And can anyone see any more glitches with the rules? (apart from the weapons coming soon bit)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 02, 2010, 08:19:12 AM
No drive motors, too lesser wheels
Maybe up it to:

2x TWM3mr Drive (Correct?, well the ones next to the NPCs)
2x Granny Slipper wheels
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 02, 2010, 08:34:20 AM
The point is it's meant to be components that are never used, so granny slipper wheels and magmotors kinda defeat the object
but thanks anyway for the suggestion
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Badnik96 on October 02, 2010, 08:36:14 AM
KM, I think the point of this is to make the best noob bot you can using the required parts. Although more wheels (like S3's, mud tires, T-minus wheels, maybe the little tazbot ones) need to be there.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 02, 2010, 08:44:34 AM
I might give this a go actually.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 02, 2010, 09:08:39 AM
I have a bot made, challenge though!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 02, 2010, 10:09:04 AM
uhh, km, the list may change between now and signups, so i wouldn't recommend jumping the gun and making a bot right now
but i look forward to seeing your entry anyway
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: powerrave on October 02, 2010, 11:17:36 AM
time to try and think of something to build with this. nice challenge tho.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 02, 2010, 11:55:38 AM
Piglets + mini wheels make for a good ride, surprisingly!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: JoeBlo on October 02, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
piglets are weapon motors so dont have great torque for drive applications
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 02, 2010, 12:09:54 PM
Surprisingly, they do! But when you add the batterys and CO2 tanks, they are REALLY slow!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: JoeBlo on October 02, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
the proof is in the values of the text file :P low Torque
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 02, 2010, 12:32:39 PM
Quote from: JoeBlo on October 02, 2010, 12:14:23 PM
the proof is in the values of the text file :P low Torque
The amount might be good for making a Botweiler replica, though.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: martymidget on October 02, 2010, 05:17:38 PM
Slimbody drive would be a lol :P

Or take it even further and use astros or even copals. Lol XD
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 02, 2010, 05:19:22 PM
You might be onto something there marty
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 03, 2010, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: king mushroom on October 02, 2010, 11:55:38 AM
Piglets + mini wheels make for a good ride, surprisingly!

*growls*

How many times must i repeat that PIGLETS ARE NOT DESIGNED AS DRIVE MOTORS BECAUSE OF LOW TORQUE ?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 03, 2010, 01:02:56 PM
*thinks about putting piglets as the only motor available*
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 03, 2010, 01:58:25 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 03, 2010, 12:38:55 PM
How many times must i repeat that PIGLETS ARE NOT DESIGNED AS DRIVE MOTORS BECAUSE OF LOW TORQUE ?

I know, that's why it is SURPRISING!

Also, J24, try Slimbody motors, I don't see many of them about.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 07, 2010, 02:35:10 PM
I has put a poll up just to get an initial idea of how many people would enter this
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 12, 2010, 11:03:15 AM
anyone wanna skin the arena for me?
i tried myself and... failed miserably
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 12, 2010, 11:21:45 AM
If it is a bitmap, send it mah way!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 12, 2010, 11:29:28 AM
its bitmaps and tgas
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 12, 2010, 11:36:22 AM
Just send me the basic arena image and i can make it for you. what is a tga tho?
I should know!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 12, 2010, 11:54:19 AM
tgas can only be opened in paint.net as far as i know
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: JoeBlo on October 12, 2010, 11:59:14 AM
.tga is a targa image format that supports transparency

kinda an old format now.. most people use Png for the same results (handy as they can store info also)

I myself do all my skinning with png's then just use a batch converter to change them to targa
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 12, 2010, 12:00:53 PM
Ok, send them my way!!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 12, 2010, 12:30:19 PM
/infogrammes/robot arena 2/arenas/dslspinnerarena/maps
I want it to look like an arena thats in the middle of a scrapheap
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 12, 2010, 12:31:03 PM
Re-skin Mars arena?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 12, 2010, 12:37:38 PM
BLADE YOU FOOL
nah your not a fool
but still BLADE
(its filename is spinner btw)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 07:33:29 AM
DP Bump
Updated the components list with weapons
im hoping to put this into the poll after the next, BTW
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:36:07 AM
List looks quite good so far. I'm planning to put my tourney up the poll after next as well, providing uni doesn't get in the way. Good luck to you. ;)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 07:38:27 AM
I am not entering this if the only battery available is the worst one by far !
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 07:40:39 AM
@NFX yeah i think it's pretty much ready
can anyone spot anything i missed though?
(i tried not to but it's always better to get it checked by someone else)

@Naryar thats kinda the point
bad weapons
bad motors
bad batteries
bad robots
vs other bad robots
= BUILDING CHALLENGE FTW!
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:49:22 AM
Wow, I actually thought there were more batteries than that. But at least then everyone's in the same boat here, we'd all be stuck with crap batteries. =P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 07:50:52 AM
i might add another battery to it i just cant decide which one
(if anyone says ants i will give them the internet evils)

Edit: Brainwave!
Poll up in a sec
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 22, 2010, 07:52:46 AM
Could we use oranges?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 07:54:01 AM
If by that you mean ants then
*internet evils*
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 07:57:57 AM
With the component list you gave us there is NO WAY to build even a decent bot.

Below average, really bad or SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE are the only choices you give to us.

Alternatively you might want to make this a joke tourney...

Oh, and ants. If anything else, orange batts.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
I voted for Battlepack. Partly because I think it's small enough to still work with MW designs, but mostly because I enjoy seeing Naryar annoyed with this tourney. =P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 08:01:40 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 07:57:57 AM
With the component list you gave us there is NO WAY to build even a decent bot.

Below average, really bad or SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE are the only choices you give to us.

Alternatively you might want to make this a joke tourney...

Oh, and ants. If anything else, orange batts.
Personally, I think it'd be pretty fun to see what the RA2 ever-presents could come up with with such a poor list of components  ;)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 08:02:45 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 07:57:57 AM
Below average, really bad or SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE are the only choices you give to us.

The point is though that you have to build the best SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bot you can and it will face off against other SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bots to see which is the best SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bot

in other news, i got my screen recorder and video editing software working =D
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
but mostly because I enjoy seeing Naryar annoyed with this tourney. =P

*brushes aside urge to kill someones*

I must say I am surprised. I thought you were a good guy ?

Quote from: J24 on October 22, 2010, 08:02:45 AM
The point is though that you have to build the best SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bot you can and it will face off against other SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bots to see which is the best SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bot

So it's basically n00b warz DSL HW ?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 08:11:42 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
but mostly because I enjoy seeing Naryar annoyed with this tourney. =P

*brushes aside urge to kill someones*

I must say I am surprised. I thought you were a good guy ?

Quote from: J24 on October 22, 2010, 08:02:45 AM
The point is though that you have to build the best SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bot you can and it will face off against other SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bots to see which is the best SOUL-CRUSHINGLY HORRIBLE bot

So it's basically n00b warz DSL HW ?
You could say. Although I did prefer it when it was stock.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:38:02 AM
Alright, I have an idea for this. Will showcase soon enough.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 08:41:55 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:38:02 AM
Alright, I have an idea for this. Will showcase soon enough.
I could imagine it being some kind of creature being made out of scrap that came to life through the powers of the Black Battery and the moonlight, becoming a nocturnal scrap-beast that feeds on DSL SFTWs.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
Quote from: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 08:11:42 AM
You could say. Although I did prefer it when it was stock.

It was never stock

also nary, you may want to wait until the final battery is finalised later today before building
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 22, 2010, 09:52:02 AM
Can we have 2 standard NPCs?

Making a 3 wheeled bot is hard (N-12 powered by the NPC and ants on piglets steering)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: king mushroom on October 22, 2010, 09:52:02 AM
Can we have 2 standard NPCs?

Making a 3 wheeled bot is hard (N-12 powered by the NPC and ants on piglets steering)

No, he's just making things difficult for everyone.

Not to mention the intense fail of making a piglet drive bot or something 2WD but with differently torque'd motors...
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 10:01:19 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: king mushroom on October 22, 2010, 09:52:02 AM
Can we have 2 standard NPCs?

Making a 3 wheeled bot is hard (N-12 powered by the NPC and ants on piglets steering)

No, he's just making things difficult for everyone.

Not to mention the intense fail of making a piglet drive bot or something 2WD but with differently torque'd motors...

thats exactly what i was hoping people would do
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: J24 on October 22, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
Quote from: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 08:11:42 AM
You could say. Although I did prefer it when it was stock.

It was never stock
I was referring to N00b Warz.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
Quote from: J24 on October 22, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
Quote from: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 08:11:42 AM
You could say. Although I did prefer it when it was stock.

It was never stock
I was referring to N00b Warz.

Ok then
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 22, 2010, 01:06:56 PM
DP!
Poll is down, list is finalised, may even be able to get this up in time for the next poll (although i probably wont even if i can)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 22, 2010, 02:00:21 PM
Quote from: J24 on September 19, 2010, 01:37:38 PM
Oh and Im not competing
To be honest i don't think people should enter their own tournaments

You should compete, it would be interesting.

When do you want the Arena?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2010, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
but mostly because I enjoy seeing Naryar annoyed with this tourney. =P

*brushes aside urge to kill someones*

I must say I am surprised. I thought you were a good guy ?

Aw, c'mon Nar. You know I have mass respect for you. I just think there should be more to building than raw efficiency.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
but mostly because I enjoy seeing Naryar annoyed with this tourney. =P

*brushes aside urge to kill someones*

I must say I am surprised. I thought you were a good guy ?

Aw, c'mon Nar. You know I have mass respect for you. I just think there should be more to building than raw efficiency.

Why do people assume I only care about efficiency ? I care about creativity first, THEN efficiency, then looks.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
but mostly because I enjoy seeing Naryar annoyed with this tourney. =P

*brushes aside urge to kill someones*

I must say I am surprised. I thought you were a good guy ?

Aw, c'mon Nar. You know I have mass respect for you. I just think there should be more to building than raw efficiency.

Why do people assume I only care about efficiency ? I care about creativity first, THEN efficiency, then looks.
Or how much Narmour there is first, then Creativity, Efficiency, and then Looks   :laughing
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2010, 03:48:13 PM
I'm pretty sure he's left Narmour alone for now. =P It was only BBEANS 6 that brought it to public light.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 03:53:24 PM
Quote from: GoldenFox93 on October 22, 2010, 03:43:39 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 03:41:54 PM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 07:59:51 AM
but mostly because I enjoy seeing Naryar annoyed with this tourney. =P

*brushes aside urge to kill someones*

I must say I am surprised. I thought you were a good guy ?

Aw, c'mon Nar. You know I have mass respect for you. I just think there should be more to building than raw efficiency.

Why do people assume I only care about efficiency ? I care about creativity first, THEN efficiency, then looks.
Or how much Narmour there is first, then Creativity, Efficiency, and then Looks   :laughing

Narmor WAS a creative component use when I started to use it. Did the medium amount of building you did ended up in something new or creative ? I don't think so.

Quote from: NFX on October 22, 2010, 03:48:13 PM
I'm pretty sure he's left Narmour alone for now. =P It was only BBEANS 6 that brought it to public light.

Well... out of 9 new v2.5 teams be me, one bot has narmor.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2010, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: Naryar on October 22, 2010, 03:53:24 PM
Narmor WAS a creative component use when I started to use it. Did the medium amount of building you did ended up in something new or creative ? I don't think so.
Or cheaty? =P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on October 22, 2010, 05:44:48 PM
Nary is right, it was creative. But now classified as cheating.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 22, 2010, 06:20:10 PM
Oh, yeah, I could cheat and be immensely creative.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 23, 2010, 01:50:08 AM
Ack! I just realised i forgot to put battlepack in the compokents list and my iopd wont let me scroll down in the editing window!
Ok ill just post it here
The battlepack is also on the components list
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:08:15 AM
DP
I fixed the components list by putting in the battlepack
I think that's all the rules sorted out (if anyone sees anything i've missed please point it out)
anyway now i just need some prizes
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:14:06 AM
What's the arena used ?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:16:23 AM
Blade
(when KM skins it)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:18:53 AM
Why is everyone using the blade arena these days...
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:22:02 AM
Name 3 tourneys using the blade arena apart from this one and COTT
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:37:18 AM
I remember some tribute to Dragonfire tournament... way back then.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:39:07 AM
so 3 out of how many? loads
anyway if you can think of a better arena i'd love to hear it
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:39:41 AM
EPIC SHOWDOWN.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:40:23 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:39:41 AM
EPIC SHOWDOWN.

Never Heard Of It
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:44:52 AM
Quote from: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:40:23 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:39:41 AM
EPIC SHOWDOWN.

Never Heard Of It
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2919.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2919.0.html)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:48:10 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:44:52 AM
Quote from: J24 on October 25, 2010, 05:40:23 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:39:41 AM
EPIC SHOWDOWN.

Never Heard Of It
https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2919.0.html (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php/topic,2919.0.html)

Always wondered what that arena was called
Doesn't look scrapheapy enough though
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: JoeBlo on October 25, 2010, 06:15:14 AM
Quote from: Naryar on October 25, 2010, 05:37:18 AM
I remember some tribute to Dragonfire tournament... way back then.

RODE  :gawe:

but if you want to talk arenas that are used a lot that would be RA2T#2/ DSL Tourney Arena (both virtually the same thing)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on October 25, 2010, 07:21:50 AM
Yeah, I've got the RA2T2 arena in mind for my tournament. It's just a simple box with simple corner hazards and simple low walls. It's a simple arena to work with. And easy to reskin, I found. So much so, I've done it twice. =D
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 25, 2010, 07:23:24 AM
Anyone with 3d studio max willing to make some prizez? or will i have to go with the arena skin?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on October 26, 2010, 10:58:04 AM
Considering that TBBB, RIMP and NAIW have all moved forward, how long, about, till the next poll?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: JoeBlo on October 26, 2010, 08:17:30 PM
when people stop asking about it I will make it :P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on November 06, 2010, 08:41:34 AM
If no-one points out any faults in the rules by 7:00 GMT, then i'm going to give this the green tick
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on November 06, 2010, 09:23:54 AM
I can skin the arena by the end of sunday easy.

When do we send bots (and can someone Ai, i am too much of a retard cant do it.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on November 06, 2010, 09:45:08 AM
We send bots when it reaches the Signup Section. =D
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on November 06, 2010, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: king mushroom on November 06, 2010, 09:23:54 AM
and can someone Ai, i am too much of a retard cant do it.

The tourney host or his designated A.I.-er (in this case the tourney host, me) will always be able to ai your entry
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on November 06, 2010, 10:59:08 AM
probably a flipper so thats easy, i'll put the smartzone where i'd like it though
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on November 06, 2010, 11:07:17 AM
Quote from: king mushroom on November 06, 2010, 10:59:08 AM
probably a flipper so thats easy, i'll put the smartzone where i'd like it though

Kool

Ok BOT
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on November 06, 2010, 01:57:11 PM
DP
All Glory To The Green Tick
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Natef on November 06, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
Why is everything DSL HW these days?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SteveM4 on November 06, 2010, 03:41:28 PM
because DSL MW sucks :P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Natef on November 06, 2010, 09:28:55 PM
Why?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Naryar on November 08, 2010, 03:58:05 AM
*takes KM's neck in an arm lock*

No, no, don't listen to him. DSL MW is very fine.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: NFX on November 08, 2010, 04:01:48 AM
I think people believed there was a lot of DSL MW tournaments popping up for some reason. Which I thought wasn't true, there wasn't actually that many that I saw. Which is why mines was DSL MW. =P
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: 70 CUDA on November 11, 2010, 02:41:52 PM
i think this is a good idea ill enter if it goes through.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Bradc00 on November 16, 2010, 02:56:06 PM
I would do it.
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on November 16, 2010, 02:56:39 PM
Welcome! Weird first post. (Not as weird as mine)
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on November 16, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on November 25, 2009, 12:16:06 PM
Has Hard Cheese been made?

You mean that one?
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: SKBT on November 16, 2010, 02:59:05 PM
ACAMS!

Spambot managed to post.

Look at his Sig and his website if you don't believe me
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: Squirrel_Monkey on November 16, 2010, 03:00:24 PM
Quote from: J24 on November 16, 2010, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: Squirrel_Monkey on November 25, 2009, 12:16:06 PM
Has Hard Cheese been made?

You mean that one?
^Grr.........^
Title: Re: Scrapheap Challenge
Post by: J24 on November 16, 2010, 03:10:11 PM
Quote from: SKBT on November 16, 2010, 02:59:05 PM
ACAMS!

Spambot managed to post.

Look at his Sig and his website if you don't believe me

Holy Moley it is aswell
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