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Title: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 10:00:42 AM

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SPLASHES:

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BRACKET:

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Updated bracket (spoilers). (http://challonge.com/samuraishowdown)

VIDYAS:

FIRST ROUND:

Blade Breaker vs in cold blood (https://youtu.be/ETORnRRY53M)

Wirklich Gute Namen vs Glaive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyHHUn8yKrk)

Spirit of Weaboo 3 vs Shogun Warrior (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6yf4AnHVHQ)

SEMIFINAL:

Land of the Spinning Swords vs in cold blood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXDhP9sUEZE&feature=youtu.be)

Glaive vs Spirit of Weaboo 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQpysOI52Dk&feature=youtu.be)

FINAL MATCH:

in cold blood vs Glaive (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC-x68D8N8o&feature=youtu.be)

Bonus matches (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFmfjCwPIkk)

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Somebody on May 31, 2015, 10:30:18 AM

That's a better range of robot types than I expected. I'm dead, I'm super dead.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 11:00:25 AM

As SB says, a lovely variety of bots. Here's some thoughts from me.

WIRKLICH GUTE NaMEN (PizzaGuy2020): Long reach will be useful, also keeps opponents away from what looks like a shoddy and fragile extender job. Is it invertible?

BLADE BREAKER (Thrackerzod): Going to be powerful and damaging, provided it can hit bots with the normals. Another non invertible one.

LAND OF THE SPINNING SWORDS (Kungfooey242): What weapon motors is this packing? Be interested to see the contrast with Blade Breaker re: width of the weapons and the fact that normals exist.

GLAIVE (Wacky Bob): Side hammer? As long as the wedges are decent then it can do a lot of decent work. Many of the other's sides are open to eating.

SHOGUN WARRIOR (RedAce): Spinners beware, this will be really potent against them.

IN COLD BLOOD (090901): Flipper? Nice loophole abuse here. If the AI is willing to leave robots upside down/if the bot is capable of OotA's then this is a potent entry.

SPIRIT OF WEABOO 3 (Somebody): This one's success is a big DoW one. Against the spinners it's in trouble, the weapons won't last.


Predictions:

Blade Breaker vs in cold blood: icb to exploit BB's lack of being invertable. immobilisation or OotA.

Wirklich vs Glaive: The length of Wirklich will be a problem here for Glaive. I think it might take the plow off and the KO. otherwise a WBP.

Shogun vs Weaboo: A wedge war, but Shogun just outnumbers Weaboo so for that I'm going with it.



LotSS vs in cold blood: LotSS is probably in the best place to just be flipped by icb. OotA for me.


Wirklich vs Shogun: I think the hammer has a massive advantage here. Nice exposed top on Wirklich and its reach seems better than Glaive's.



Shogun vs in cold blood: Wedge war. As Shogun could KO or WBP, let's give it the edge.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 01:38:50 PM

Here's the first match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETORnRRY53M# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETORnRRY53M#)

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: yugitom on May 31, 2015, 02:05:41 PM

Pokemon Conquest <3

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 02:06:40 PM

What camera mode do you use?

At first I was like, 'yeah, I was right'. Then it was 'oh, maybe I underestimated the HS'. And then 'lol, yeah, I was right

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: cephalopod on May 31, 2015, 02:11:17 PM

Quote from: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 02:06:40 PM

What camera mode do you use?

https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=179 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=179) :)

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 02:14:35 PM

oooooh this is exciting!

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 02:19:42 PM

Quote from: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 02:06:40 PM

What camera mode do you use?

At first I was like, 'yeah, I was right'. Then it was 'oh, maybe I underestimated the HS'. And then 'lol, yeah, I was right

I use the action cam thingy Craaig linked.

That's about the same as how I felt about the match.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Badnik96 on May 31, 2015, 03:22:49 PM

oh yeah i forgot about this

rip

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 04:47:30 PM

Here's the next one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyHHUn8yKrk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyHHUn8yKrk#)

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 04:56:51 PM

Didn't realise how fast Glaive was....

Now fight 2 was what I thought would happen. Wacky Bob's proving me wrong already. Potent bot, Glaive.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 04:57:50 PM

Quote from: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 04:56:51 PM

Didn't realise how fast Glaive was....

The splash kinda hid the front two wheels, didn't it?

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 05:02:32 PM

Yeah. Round 1 gets going and I'm just like - 'Ok, we're starti-huh?'

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Wacky Bob on May 31, 2015, 05:43:12 PM

What do you know, Glaive works better than I thought.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: yugitom on May 31, 2015, 06:11:25 PM

I'm glad the Conquest music will be a consistent theme :)

Quite surprised WGN held up so well.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 06:22:50 PM

Quote from: yugitom on May 31, 2015, 06:11:25 PM

I'm glad the Conquest music will be a consistent theme :)

I figured it would be fitting.  Glad you're enjoying it!

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: RedAce on May 31, 2015, 06:58:06 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 06:22:50 PM

Quote from: yugitom on May 31, 2015, 06:11:25 PM

I'm glad the Conquest music will be a consistent theme :)

I figured it would be fitting.  Glad you're enjoying it!

While I enjoy it as well, I'm disappointed that you haven't used any Ninja Gaiden music. Especially since the tourney is called Samurai Showdown. [/nitpick]

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 07:03:10 PM

That's a fair point actually.  I'll throw some in for the bonus rounds or something.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 08:59:00 PM

And here's the next match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6yf4AnHVHQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6yf4AnHVHQ#)

There was a bit of a havok at the end, but the match was basically over at that point anyway, so I decided it didn't really matter.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: RedAce on May 31, 2015, 09:07:18 PM

And that's what I get for not actually getting off my lazy ass to make the AI for it along with testing it in combat. I REALLY should've known not to make the bot move forward whenever something is in the smartzone.

Good game Somebody. I guess that's some weird even way to get even after BTTB Revamped. I think.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 09:15:42 PM

Quote from: RedAce on May 31, 2015, 09:07:18 PM

And that's what I get for not actually getting off my lazy ass to make the AI for it along with testing it in combat. I REALLY should've known not to make the bot move forward whenever something is in the smartzone.

I just threw omni over it.  How would you make it do that?

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: RedAce on May 31, 2015, 09:22:17 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 09:15:42 PM

Quote from: RedAce on May 31, 2015, 09:07:18 PM

I REALLY should've known not to make the bot move forward whenever something is in the smartzone.

How would you make it do that?

Are you referring to making the bot move forward when fired? I just wired the motors to move forward when it goes in the smartzone akin wiring a burst motor. End result on my part though?  ::badidea

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 09:25:54 PM

Quote from: RedAce on May 31, 2015, 09:22:17 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on May 31, 2015, 09:15:42 PM

Quote from: RedAce on May 31, 2015, 09:07:18 PM

I REALLY should've known not to make the bot move forward whenever something is in the smartzone.

How would you make it do that?

Are you referring to making the bot move forward when fired? I just wired the motors to move forward when it goes in the smartzone akin wiring a burst motor. End result on my part though?  ::badidea

Oh, alright.  Nevermind whatever I was going on about.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 10:11:53 PM

That's a real turn up for the books. And shows how good my predictions are! :P

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Somebody on May 31, 2015, 10:31:54 PM

Welp, didn't expect that. Good match, very close! I guess it is similar to BTTB Revamped but I'm pretty sure I AIed whatever GUH 2 has in hindsight so no hard feelings there. Had me on the edge of my seat throughout.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 10:26:38 AM

Here is the first semifinal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXDhP9sUEZE&feature=youtu.be# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXDhP9sUEZE&feature=youtu.be#)

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on June 01, 2015, 11:05:02 AM

Gyro dancing is somewhat hypnotic...

This is a fearsome bot 090901, if somewhat not in the spirit of the tournament

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 02:30:14 PM

Second semifinal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQpysOI52Dk&feature=youtu.be# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQpysOI52Dk&feature=youtu.be#)

And with that, the final round is...

in cold blood versus Glaive

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on June 01, 2015, 04:25:01 PM

Expected result I think. GO GLAIVE.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: 090901 on June 01, 2015, 04:27:21 PM

Quote from: G.K. on May 31, 2015, 11:00:25 AM

IN COLD BLOOD (090901): Flipper? Nice loophole abuse here.

It's not a loophole if flippers don't have weapons in the first place  :p

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on June 01, 2015, 04:35:37 PM

Well, you're right, but as I say in a later post, it's hardly in the spirit of the tournament.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 06:15:53 PM

The final match!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC-x68D8N8o# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC-x68D8N8o#)

Conglaturations to...

090901 with in cold blood!

If y'all are interested in any grudge matches or whatever, I can do some of those.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on June 01, 2015, 06:24:29 PM

A deserved but utterly unromantic victory. Gratz 090901.

Be cool to see the two HS's fight.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 06:31:28 PM

Quote from: G.K. on June 01, 2015, 06:24:29 PM

A deserved but utterly unromantic victory. Gratz 090901.

Yeah, bit disappointing that an actual swordbot didn't win, but hey, I guess that goes to show how terrible swords are.  I thought the flipper was kind of a clever loophole anyway.

Quote from: G.K. on June 01, 2015, 06:24:29 PM

Be cool to see the two HS's fight.

I was thinking the same thing; will do.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Wacky Bob on June 01, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

Not entirely what I was hoping for, but hey, I'm happy that I made it to the finals with a bot like that. Congrats 090901.

I thought about entering a flipper, but decided that would be no fun  :rolleyes:

As for grudge matches, I want to fight RedAce.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on June 01, 2015, 06:48:12 PM

Don't get me wrong, loopholes are great, I've used them in the past (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=5337.0), but somehow they feel less romantic when you're not the one doing them.

Damn, I've got too invested in theatre that I'm looking for the romantic narrative in a GTM tourney...

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Somebody on June 01, 2015, 06:58:15 PM

I'd like to face 090901 because we're the two flippers of the tournament. Even though I got more wins by being a crappy pop-up haha.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:04:12 PM

Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 01, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

As for grudge matches, I want to fight RedAce.

Quote from: Somebody on June 01, 2015, 06:58:15 PM

I'd like to face 090901 because we're the two flippers of the tournament. Even though I got more wins by being a crappy pop-up haha.

Will do.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:21:42 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:04:12 PM

Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 01, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

As for grudge matches, I want to fight RedAce.

Will do.

Small request building on that: Can you un-wire the motors so that it doesn't continuously move forward please?

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:29:10 PM

Quote from: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:21:42 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:04:12 PM

Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 01, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

As for grudge matches, I want to fight RedAce.

Will do.

Small request building on that: Can you un-wire the motors so that it doesn't continuously move forward please?

Like, in the AI or in the botlab?

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:46:59 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:29:10 PM

Quote from: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:21:42 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:04:12 PM

Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 01, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

As for grudge matches, I want to fight RedAce.

Will do.

Small request building on that: Can you un-wire the motors so that it doesn't continuously move forward please?

Like, in the AI or in the botlab?

Bot lab. If you go in there and check the wiring section, it should be found.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 02, 2015, 08:18:13 AM

Quote from: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:46:59 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:29:10 PM

Quote from: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:21:42 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:04:12 PM

Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 01, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

As for grudge matches, I want to fight RedAce.

Will do.

Small request building on that: Can you un-wire the motors so that it doesn't continuously move forward please?

Like, in the AI or in the botlab?

Bot lab. If you go in there and check the wiring section, it should be found.

Okay, I looked in the bot lab and don't have any idea what you want me to do.  The weapon firing button doesn't activate the motors or anything.  I tried setting the Fire button so that it cause the front wheels to go forward and the back wheels to go backward, but that didn't do anything.  Unless you want me to get rid of the Forward control entirely, I'm not sure what to do with it.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: RedAce on June 02, 2015, 09:10:13 AM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 02, 2015, 08:18:13 AM

Quote from: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:46:59 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:29:10 PM

Quote from: RedAce on June 01, 2015, 07:21:42 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 01, 2015, 07:04:12 PM

Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 01, 2015, 06:38:11 PM

As for grudge matches, I want to fight RedAce.

Will do.

Small request building on that: Can you un-wire the motors so that it doesn't continuously move forward please?

Like, in the AI or in the botlab?

Bot lab. If you go in there and check the wiring section, it should be found.

Okay, I looked in the bot lab and don't have any idea what you want me to do.  The weapon firing button doesn't activate the motors or anything.  I tried setting the Fire button so that it cause the front wheels to go forward and the back wheels to go backward, but that didn't do anything.  Unless you want me to get rid of the Forward control entirely, I'm not sure what to do with it.

Well if it's that big of a hassle, then don't worry about it.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 02, 2015, 06:29:02 PM

Sorry, I wish I knew what I was doing.



Bonus matches!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFmfjCwPIkk# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFmfjCwPIkk#)

So, that's that, I suppose.  What did y'all think of the tournament?  What should I do differently next time?

Also, would there be any interest in an awards thread?

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: G.K. on June 02, 2015, 06:42:10 PM

I had lots of fun. good matches, variety in the bots. Run a losers' bracket next time?

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 02, 2015, 07:41:21 PM

Quote from: G.K. on June 02, 2015, 06:42:10 PM

I had lots of fun.

Thanks!

Quote from: G.K. on June 02, 2015, 06:42:10 PM

Run a losers' bracket next time?

I'm definitely planning on doing that for the next one.  I already have an idea, as well.

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Wacky Bob on June 02, 2015, 08:49:51 PM

Yeah, it was fun. Had a good turnout considering the decline of stock recently.

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 02, 2015, 06:29:02 PM

Also, would there be any interest in an awards thread?

Do it

Title: Re: Samurai Showdown - SBV
Post by: Thrackerzod on June 03, 2015, 09:29:20 AM

Quote from: Wacky Bob on June 02, 2015, 08:49:51 PM

Quote from: Thrackerzod on June 02, 2015, 06:29:02 PM

Also, would there be any interest in an awards thread?

Do it

Okay, here you go: https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17757 (https://gametechmods.com/forums/index.php?topic=17757)

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