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Robot Arena Matches => Tournaments => Tournament Archives => Topic started by: MetalikVyper on April 16, 2009, 03:44:53 AM
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NEW: The final is up on the website! (http://rodetournament.yolasite.com/)
Hi guys and welcome to the thread for the official RODE Tribute Tournament.
As you've probably read in the Robot Rampage thread Dragonfire has left us:( so i have decided to host a tournament in his honour and for all he has done for us here at gametechmods.com
Layout:
This tournament will be stock Middleweights (as that is DF's favourite weight class in stock), it will be a straight forward battle with 2 rumbles to start with all the entries fighting. The winners of the rumbles will then fight each other in the final brawl and the winner of the final round will recive a special award from DragonFire himself.
Rules:
Stock M/W's as i said
1. Stacking is allowed
2. No cheatbot2 but you can have AI parts
3. No skinning (my RA2 doesent agree with them)
4. Glitching is allowed (if a havoc explosion decides how the match ends there will be 1 re-match)
5. You will have to AI your own bot.
The tournament will take place in the DSL BLadeArena
As you can guess from the bracket i need 16 combatants:
1 - R0B0SH4RK
2 - Somebody
3 - 40757
4 - Pwnator
5 - Scrap Daddy
6 - Roboman2444
7 - JoeBlo
8 - Jack Daniels
(Your name will apear once your entry is AIed)
Send entries to: darkviper22(dont_type_this_or_the_brackets)@gmail.com
(Send the bot file with the bots name e.g. example.bot and the bindings, and don't forget to include your forum name, thank you.)
The brackets, entries and other additional information can be found on the New official RODE Tournament site:
http://RODETournament.yolasite.com (http://RODETournament.yolasite.com)
Good luck to everyone entries due in by 16 May so get building!
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/48365TourneySplash.png)
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Any one got any suggestion for a free 'out of the hat' program to choose the entries in the rumbles?
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Yay!
Something good I can enter with.
I'm in!
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A stock competition! Count me in! :D
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it will be a straight forward battle with 4 rumbles to start with all the entries fighting.
Also known as HS fest... oh well
I'm definitely in. Probably going to enter a SnS.
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Only one bot entry, right?
If so, mine is already built.
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Dang, its stock..... cool tournament though MetalikVyper. Its so sad DF left.....
EDIT: I like your promotional video.
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DF permanently left?
BTW, I might give it a try.
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Stock MW? I'm in.
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Sure, why not? I enter.
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Promotional Video: http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/technology_and_gaming/watch/v18237790SnQtXjma
This site don't work for me in Bulgaria, upload it in YouTube...
3. No skinning (my RA2 doesent agree with them)
WTF?!?!?!?!...
5. You will have to AI your own bot.
This stops me to enter...
The tournament will take place in the DSL BLadeArena
Hmmm...
Otherwise, is basicly a generic good tournament...
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sorry venko but youtube wont upload, whenever i put a skin on the game glitches and it displays this strange image consisting of team logos from stock and a code which i cant read.
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Venko: You can't AI ??
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What the heck is that skin rule ?
That's not because you can't import ("put on") a skin on your bot that you can't use already skinned bots !
Also i like the DSL blade arena.
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Venko: You can't AI ??
Uhmmmm... Yes...
I don't have time to lurn how to do it...
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I wonder if I ask nicely Click will give me the bindings to vowel...
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Mine is sent.
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I'll enter... but i need a day or two to make a bot... Dang, I really don't want to be like everyone else and enter a HS. I would rather make something else, lose and be original.
Good luck working on the tourney.
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I just sent my entry
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Mine isn't an HS.
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When you say "no skinning" does that include botlab paint as well?
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Same here. Mine's a popup
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I sent in my re-make of Tornado. You'll see it in Inf's Re-Stocked pack when it eventually comes out.
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Everybody please dont PM me send them to the e0-mail provided!!!
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what kind of smartzone should I use?
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Also my pc has just been restored so i have to install RA2 again, i am however slightly annoyed as now my ra2 wont export bots yet again!
what kind of smartzone should I use?
Whichever you think you need im not the person building here, you are!
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I believe he's asking if you have Mad's smartzones or not. If you don't have them, then the bot will crash your game if you try and use it. I suggest downloading Mad's smartzone pack, since more people use them than the stock ones.
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Ehh I'll enter...
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I believe he's asking if you have Mad's smartzones or not. If you don't have them, then the bot will crash your game if you try and use it. I suggest downloading Mad's smartzone pack, since more people use them than the stock ones.
what is the difference between stock and mads ones?
EDIT: It is probable that i wont get them as this may confuse my game beacuse its already playing up.
again may i ask if anyone has any suggestion for a free 'out of the hat' program i could use?
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Hmmm... I don't know of any good ones..... you should ask some of the people who have hosted tournaments...
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Somebody could you please send me your bindings as a .py file beacuse the one you sent me cannot be opened.
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You need to open it with Notepad.
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I sent mine already. If you haven't received it, check your spam. If it still isn't there, PM me. :D
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I sent mine already. If you haven't received it, check your spam. If it still isn't there, PM me. :D
ok pwnator got it i got you confused with clickbeetle beacuse the sender was called Joel sorry, :(
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Again i am desperatley trying to look for some random choice software to choose the combatants, please give me suggestions people!
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You could use Game Maker, but it may be a little hard to work with.
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http://www.random.org/lists/
or you could just pick them out of a hat
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http://www.random.org/lists/
or you could just pick them out of a hat
Thanks, that site will work fine.
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Would someone be kind enough to give me the link to these samrt zones talked about on page 3, beacuse scrapdaddy used them and i need them in order for my game to work, if anyone used any other smartzones other than mads and stock ones please either change to one of the stated 2 or give me the link to the smartzones you used.
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I did use Mad's smartzones...
Heres the link anyway:
https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Arena2/Components/MDBsmart-zones_v2.rar
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hurry up people, remember entries due in for 16th May!
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since I have learnt to AI myself I might send in something if I have the time maybe tonight :-D
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sorry for the double post
I have made my bot but haven't AI'd something like it before... is anyone willing to help me AI it ?
thanks in advance :-D
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I really don't know what to enter, and not to be generic...
Expect a bot from me.
Edit: We're just five entrants, MetallikVyper. Do you plan on starting your tournament like that?
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Well, I might enter if he needs more entries.
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i might think about entering...
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sorry for the double post
I have made my bot but haven't AI'd something like it before... is anyone willing to help me AI it ?
thanks in advance :-D
what type of bot is it?
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on second thought I can do it myself ... but I cant get hold of the smart zones should I just import mad's ones ? (never AI'd stock before)
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I think I'll join this, as my stock skills have improved.
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I will ask this again... Metalik... does botlab paint also crash your game? I accidentally made my chassis a color and you said that skins crash your game. If you answer I can move forward.
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I will ask this again... Metalik... does botlab paint also crash your game? I accidentally made my chassis a color and you said that skins crash your game. If you answer I can move forward.
No no i mean skins on components dont work on my game, for somereason it makes a code appear where the graphics are but any normal tecture and decal paintjob works fine.
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Edit: We're just five entrants, MetallikVyper. Do you plan on starting your tournament like that?
No i need either 8 or 16 to make this thing work properly.
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No no i mean skins on components dont work on my game, for somereason it makes a code appear where the graphics are but any normal tecture and decal paintjob works fine.
OK, thank you! I will get mine in ASAP. (hopefully tonight)
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just have to ai my crap mw
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I might get an entry ready by tonight.
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I'm motha ****in eeeeeeeeeeen.
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??
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AKA he's in.
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i just sent my bot(its kinda bad though)
bOOM in my showcase
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Just sent my bot as well... Another wacky Stock Enemy Bot redo.
Omni.py will work fine for it. No need for special AI.
Good luck to everyone!
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I have my entry done an AI'd and ready to send its 399.8kg but it comes up as Heavyweight ? I always thought heavyweight was 400+ is it still ok or do I need to modify it? it was 397.8kg Middleweight but then I had to add the smart zone to AI it
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/westcoastdrags/isthisright.jpg)
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HW is superior to 398.9 kg... and sometimes a MW can be 399 kg.
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Get Madiaba's Smart Zones, they weigh 0.1 kg
LINK (https://gametechmods.com/Robot_Arena2/Components/MDBsmart-zones_v2.rar)
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thanks H@zm47 that did the trick the entry is now on its way :-D
*rubs eyes* did I read that correctly H@zm47 your from western Australia? :-D I'm from Perth too guess that makes us a good team for Tag Team Challenge 2
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Wow that's cool.
Yes it's true, I'm based in Perth.
Looks like I have to edit my wiki page now :D...
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come on guys i have eight entries 6 of which are working, R0B0SH4RK i need to speak to you again about that and Jack Daniels, i need bindings form somewhere please send me the omni.py bindings for it beacuse you need to type in how many weapons it has and stuff.
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i would enter, but my stock ra2 kinda went kaput.
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come on guys i have eight entries 6 of which are working, R0B0SH4RK i need to speak to you again about that and Jack Daniels, i need bindings form somewhere please send me the omni.py bindings for it beacuse you need to type in how many weapons it has and stuff.
Ok, I am on it! Will take care of that soon.
Edit: Ah man! my bindings file is not working correctly... For some odd reason I cant seem to get the weapon motor to spin. Not sure what i screwed up... this might take me a bit.
Edit 2: Ok figured it out... sent binding parameters line to you.
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same here. Expect a MW from me in the next few days.
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i can help with the ai if its needed.
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ok guys im trying to get one problem with a bot i have fixed with help from roboman2444, and i only have 8 entries, the tournament can continue with this many entries but it will only be half the fun, would anyone like me to extend the deadline for them to make their bots or is this all?
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8 entrys ? want everyone to double up lol (joke)
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could stuff some starcore bots in there
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I am in favor of starting the tourney with 8. Honestly, I think there are some holdouts because they are not sure if MV is capable enough to pull off an entire tourney. Too many people have announced tourneys and dropped the ball. This is your time to shine MV, and prove to everyone that you can host a good tourney. We have faith in you, but make whatever call you want man.
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Yeah I think that the tourney should just start with 8 people. It's taken forever to just get 8, imagine doubling that.
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8 sounds alright a tournament cant stay open forever and at least a nice even bracket can be made out of this amount :-D
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yes 8 should be enough.
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ok 8 people im still working to get rid of a few spanners in the works and then we'll be sailinh=g smoothly after that.
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ok 8 people will do, i'm just working the last few problems out of my game and then it'll be smooth sailing form then onwards
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ok good
ill probably get owned cuz its one of my notsogoodbutbetterthanmost bots
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This will be my bot's time to shine. This is its RAW 2 testing.
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this is tag team challenge 2 testing for me (stock middleweights right?)
anyway cant wait
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I thought that TTC2 was DSl LWs...
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It is.
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yeah it is lol I have no idea were that last post came from :mrgreen: mental blanks ftw lol anyway it is a test of a few things for me not necessarily tournament related
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Please have patience people, the tournament will commence as soon as me and Roboman sort out one problem. Thank you for all of your contributions and good luck to all those that entered!
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Ok roboman cannot fix the problem and I'm not suprised this problem is seriously bad, does anyone know how I can contact starcore? beacause he's my last hope!
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If it is an AI problem I highly recommend Madiaba... He's so damn smart, I feel like a lawn elf compared to him.
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me too
MV: just use the stuff for the weps that i did for you. it will help on the smartness of the ai
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Is it my bot you're having trouble with? I checked the AI line myself, and imported it into 3 different games and they worked every single time. I don't know how you could even have trouble with it.
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it worked on mine also.
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Whats wrong?
Will the AI line just not work?
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try a diff version of the game. like the ones in infs summer magic.
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Whats wrong?
Will the AI line just not work?
No it's just the game crashes every single time I try to start a game with it
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roboman obviously used a cheat part then. Can you even get into the botlab with it?
If not, give him a few days to send a new bot.
Roboman, check your bot for cheat parts.
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roboman obviously used a cheat part then. Can you even get into the botlab with it?
If not, give him a few days to send a new bot.
Roboman, check your bot for cheat parts.
No no it's not robomans entry its roboSHARKS entry and no i cannot import it to the bot lab beacuse the exact same problem occurs when i press import, it crashes.
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Hmmm... probably a corrupt file. Maybe R0B0 should resend his entry.
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okay roboshark, check YOUR entry for cheat parts.
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or anything custom, it was said that custom skins dont agree with his ra2
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Are you guys insinuating that someone like R0B0 is using cheat parts?
As far as i know it has 1 tribar, 18 maces, something like 20 kg of black extenders, a nifty, 1 blue snapper, 2 shinies, 2 RADs, and a control board.
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:eek: never Naryar. I was referring to the fact that his latest showcased bots had blue skinned wedges, just saying it may be something to check out
also does MetalikVyper have the ai parts in the botlab??? maybe thats the issue
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No, you can import BEAR, Ninja, etc without AI parts & it works fine.
And those are skinned wedges, not custom components, methinks.
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It was just a thought as
3. No skinning (my RA2 doesent agree with them)
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All of the parts that I have used on TORNADO (my entry) are un-skinned, it was built entirely in the bot lab, and it uses no custom components, smartzones, AI, etc. It is an 18-mace dual HPZ spinner that can be seen here (https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=895&page=11) and uses Omni.py as an AI line. I sent it to Inf for his AI pack and as far as I know, he's had no problems with it. I've also used it in numerous online matches without any crashes, and it works AI'ed and not in numerous versions of my games, all of which are un-modded, with the exeption of skinned snowplows, E-wedges, and small wedges on the version of RA2 I didn't build TORNADO on.
I've triple-checked it. There is nothing wrong with the bot I sent you.
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Perhaps MetalikVyper should check if the bot file is in the right place? or that the bindings line is in the right place? no double spaces accidentally put in ? (I know that caused many problems for me with Man Manu's Entry in the last clash cubes)
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It could be mine. which smart zone do you use?
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I have mads smrtzones installed as suggested and other bots with them work fine, i have checked the AI line i have recived from R0B0SH4RK it looks fine and if he says he triple checked then there is obviously nothing wrong with it, i have even got tid of all of the spaces in the AI line which may be double spaces, it still dosen't work and i'm still getting this error message:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/84071Untitled.jpg)
We will get to the bottom oh this people, we just need to troubleshoot together.
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Ill be sending you another version of my bot to see if it works.
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Ill be sending you another version of my bot to see if it works.
No no 40757, your bot is working fine and so is everyone elses, its just Tornado thats stalling us now. (Please dont take offence from that statement R0B0'!)
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Mv, send me the bot. I'll Ai it for you.
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If you're able to import it into the botlab, that the problem is in the AI.py or bindings (both of which I doubt)... but if it doesn't work and there are no custom components, the bot file was transfered too many times and at some point became corrupt (meaning you just need the bot file to be resent to you).
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This is the bot file with the bindings that I sent to him:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3844RODE entry Tornado.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3844RODE entry Tornado.rar)
If anyone can find what's wrong, it would be great, because at this point, I'm pretty much clueless.
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fixed it :-D it had a problem was with invertible??? anyways just retyped out that line, also there was no turn or turnspeed. changed a few character spaces and its all working now
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sorry for the DP
here are the correct bindings fix for tornado
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3051Tornado Fix.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3051Tornado Fix.rar)
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I look at the bindings now and you're right. That was the exact line I copied from my game that worked fine though. Oh well, thanks for catching it. I feel completely stupid for not seeing that massive error >.>
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no prob just glad the tournament can finally start :-D
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Curious...
Any reason why I was never on the entry list or I was never notified about having to submit a bot?
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yeah thinking back you did put your hand up
(Your name will apear once your entry is AIed)
upon looking at the first page I guess that would be the reason
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sorry for the DP
here are the correct bindings fix for tornado
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3051Tornado Fix.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3051Tornado Fix.rar)
Sorry to bring you yet more bad news but, i tried thosse bindings and the exact same problem occurs :(
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reinstall ??? before trying to fix the problem I installed a fresh copy and applied the 1.3 patch .... that's it then added tornado in... I did get the same problem you described before but then after I wrote out that line it was working fine. maybe send me a copy of your AI file in the form of a .rar or .zip via pm and I will see what I can do
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Ok i re-installed but didnt apply the 1.3 patch beacuse i couldn't find it, i started the game once ot check it worked then immediatley i replaced Bot0 of Team0 and replaced scouts bindings with tornados (the bindings JoeBlo gave me) bindings in the bindings.py file, i then checked it all over so there were no errors i start the game it works fine, i try to start a match with me Vs. Tornado (me using one of the bots that come with the game when first installed) and guess what, exactly the same problem. >:(
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Did you accidently include a tab instead of 4 spaces in the bindings?
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Did you accidently include a tab instead of 4 spaces in the bindings?
Nope I didn't write the bindings, JoeBlo did
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I used the copy of stock from the link SSG posted in this topic, just transfer over your AI folder
https://gametechmods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1863
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Well, here is another version of Tornado. It's the original file, right from the team I made it in. It should not be corrupted. See if this one works:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3701Bot0.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3701Bot0.rar)
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How does it not work? Is it that the game freezes? Game Quits? What?
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Nope I didn't write the bindings, JoeBlo did
and then i fixed the weapon #s and other random stuff for it.
worked on mine with no probs
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I used the weapons numbers from the original bindings, there shouldn't be any need to change them they worked fine on a new clean Stock 1.3 nothing else changed except for the tornado bindings
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Is that fixed yet?
I see absolutely nothing wrong with Tornado excepted the dumb skin rule.
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Well, here is another version of Tornado. It's the original file, right from the team I made it in. It should not be corrupted. See if this one works:
https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3701Bot0.rar (https://gametechmods.com/uploads/files/3701Bot0.rar)
It still didn't work, don't worry though, i am downloading the fix JoeBlo spoke about as i type this reply i will tell you how that went, i do hope it works, i'm getting bored of chasing this problem.
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I used the weapons numbers from the original bindings, there shouldn't be any need to change them they worked fine on a new clean Stock 1.3 nothing else changed except for the tornado bindings
nonono i changed them so the ai knew if they fell off or not.(so it can do a diff tactic)
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The fix doesn't work again I have ran into the same problem
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right has anyone, anyone at all have any suggestions?
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I suggest... that you have a sidekick record the matches that involve Tornado on a computer that can handle that bot. You can focus on recording the matches with non-tornado bots... and someone with better luck (can we call it luck?) can take care of the Tornado matches? You just need a recording buddy, and we are up and running.
Count me out of recording though... I dont have fraps... or hard drive space left.
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LOL, just realized it's 4 HSes and 4 popups. XD
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This'll be fun.
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the 2 most dominant stock types... mine isn't that great... first stock thing I ever built that didn't have a spinney bit lol
Edit: Since I already have tornado working in my RA2 if you pm me Roboman2444's bot and bindings and I will record your matches and email you the files (and all following matches for tornado) shouldnt effect me running clash cubes as I dont have to do anything but email them.
Edit 2: Jack Daniels and Somebody's bots too if it is still a first round rumble?
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Archiac II - Heh, not bad. I can't really see what are the weapons but it looks decent.
Hadron - Blah... Single wedge, shinies, no armor... a gazilion snappers however. Might get some 1HKills. We'll see.
Natural High - The only double wedge of the popups and has the possibility to get under all the other ones. If i remember well this has static wedges however = fail. Also spiked clubs are weight wasted IMO.
M.A.D Machine - Weapon head setup fail. Slow spinup time as well... can't see it doing well.
Tornado - 18 maces is something to be afraid of. It will rape all the other HS, but might lose to a popup with tiny plastic chassis.
bOOM - 6 irons on a HW HS is just not enough.
When 11 Isn't Enough - I think that can be done with 4 Zteks because redbirds... well we all know. Not bad though - might get a few wins against the popups.
Wayward Soul - Most likely the best of the popups (notably because of rubbers) and looks like a Pyscolone challenge one. Coolest skin also.
For the predictions now...
JD vs Somebody: Somebody's flat enough to get under JD and gut rip his bot.
R0B0 vs RB244: RAPE
JoeBlo vs 407507: 407507 has more forward weight into his bot, plus JoeBlo's static wedges won't help. 407507 gets under and we all know the popup that gets under first wins 90% of the time.
Scrap VS Pwnator: Pwn must have plastic. Not Scrap. Flaming Whizzer won because Wedge Tracker had plastic. His successor will probably lose because it has plastic himself.
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Ohh, Irony.
Anyway, Mine:
Round 1:
Somebody. will probably score a 1 hit KO or 2 hits. It is a fast bot BTW.
R0B0SH4RK. Will win because he out-weapons his opponent.
JoeBlo. His wedges seem longer. That's about it.
Pwnator. He has castor armour.
Round two:
Somebody. R0B0's bot has the weapons reaching over our Popup. Too bad.
Pwnator. He just seems superior.
Final
Somebody. He probably will.
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Sorry Nar, I have DSA. I still couldn't figure out why Flaming Whizzer had plastic and 11 razors while I can make a clone with bigger wheels, DSA and a caster. o_O
[Edit] I also can't figure out M.A.D. Machine's weapon setup.
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the 2 most dominant stock types... mine isn't that great... first stock thing I ever built that didn't have a spinney bit lol
Edit: Since I already have tornado working in my RA2 if you pm me Roboman2444's bot and bindings and I will record your matches and email you the files (and all following matches for tornado) shouldnt effect me running clash cubes as I dont have to do anything but email them.
Edit 2: Jack Daniels and Somebody's bots too if it is still a first round rumble?
Ok JD I will PM you the bots for the rumble with tornado in it, thankyou and is it possible you could use gamecam to record? beacuse i am using the unregistered version so i might aswell make the other match i will record the same, thanks again ill PM the bots shortly.
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added the other 3 to my copy and tested them all so its good to go just need your response to my pm before I got ahead with anything else
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JoeBlo, do you mind if i use your profile pic in the video ive done?
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[Edit] I also can't figure out M.A.D. Machine's weapon setup.
Long story short, I got lazy... I hacked the bot together in about 15 mins. I could not get the extenders to allow me to point all the Irons outward, so i just just threw on a bunch of extenders that would allow me to put as many irons as the weight limit would allow. Looks messy, yes... I probably could have done a much better job on the bot if I didn't rush it. It will most likely fall to the Popup... unless the smartzone triggers at just the right time so the popup gets a mouthful of caster armour, it might stand a chance.
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Jack, Scrap... Do I see your Robo zone 1 Entries bigger brothers?
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Jack, Scrap... Do I see your Robo zone 1 Entries bigger brothers?
:P
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JoeBlo, do you mind if i use your profile pic in the video ive done?
yeah that's fine glad I can help out, will send those videos your way tonight (my tonight GMT+8)
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Right got all vids now, thanks to you all there will be special thanks in the credits on the final match, remeber DF has made a prize for the winner so good luck to you all!!
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The first round rumbles are up! check out the website (link on the first page of this thread)
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Very nice matches - one complaint though: use the zoom camera please.
And how the heck is Wayward Soul so damn powerful ? I felt like it was a Beta Burst flipper :O
EDIT: I still laugh at poor R0B0 getting catapulted OOTA...
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What the heck arena were you using? I couldn't see anything that went on at all.
Also, there is no way in heck that Tornado, or any other bot for that matter, could fly that high.
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The arena was the DSL Blade Arena ( as specified on page one) i used the camera angle that MV told me to film at
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So can anyone tell me why a stock tourney is being held in a DSL arena? If MV has the bots in DSL, then everything is unbalanced because of stock/DSL mixing.
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I don't know about MV but I imported the DSL Blade Arena into my Stock RA2 to avoid such a problem
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So can anyone tell me why a stock tourney is being held in a DSL arena? If MV has the bots in DSL, then everything is unbalanced because of stock/DSL mixing.
I thought it woul be fun to mix things up by combining them both also I'm sorry about the camera angle I don't know what other camera angles to use don't worry I will be using the orbit cam on the final match!
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Well, if MV has indeed mixed Stock and DSL, I think the match that he filmed should be voided and re-done properly, because of any imbalances in the components. Not for my match, but for the fairness of the people who lost. Stock should stay with stock and DSL with DSL.
I was really under the impression that the tourney was going to be 1-on-1 fights in a Stock arena. If I had known that you could go OOTA quite easily, I wouldn't have entered a somewhat glitchy and unstable bot.
Also, please use a different filming angle. The one that is being used is perhaps the worst angle to use. It distorts the bots and completely screws up the depth, making it nearly impossible to see what's going on.
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Yes, he mixed stock and DSL - okay, that was a major fail.
Anyways i have nothing against the arena (one of my favorites, excepted for that crappy static cam placement), but yes MV, you should re-do the matches in Stock.
And yes, you should have said it was the DSL blade arena.
Not for my match, but for the fairness of the people who lost.
I bet it's for your match as well !
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No, JoeBlo filmed mine, and he told me that he didn't mix stock and DSL, so I'm fine with my loss. I just thought something was up when I saw how high Tornado flew, but then I did some experimentation and found that it was just a simple camera trick, because the Blade arena's static cam sucks. I should have read the rules more carefully and entered a more stable bot >.>
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I only just watched the matches now and I must say I'm full of Underestimated Dark Horses, nobody had faith in my brawl of the builders bot because it lacked wedges yet it was able to manhandle them and now the only static wedged pop up :-D I sure hope MV did record these in stock and there is no need for a do over
only major problem with the video MV filmed was no HUD it would have been nice to see the health of the bots and when they are eliminated
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Right ok fine, i only did it beacuse i thought it wouldn't make a difference but obviously it does, i will have to import the blade arena to stock then, how do i do that? and what angle would you suggest?
P.S. Give me a chance, this is my first tournament and i had no idea that the arena in DSL would make a difference, sorry.
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And yes, you should have said it was the DSL blade arena.
I did say what arena it was, read underneath the rules on the first page of the thread.
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the arena isnt the problem it was the fact that some of the stock components had been upgraded to DSL level while others haven't, I just copied the whole arenas file from DSL 2 to my Stock
also if you have the 1.3 patch use F10 and you can move the camera view anywhere you wish by using the right click for up down left and right.... scroll for forward and back.... and the left click to pivot
dam I take it that I just got stripped of my final placing
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Hey, Just wanted to give you props for putting the tourney together and enduring all the anguish of setting it up. You are right that this is your first tourney. You are doing a great job and we all make mistakes. Tourney hosts, always, traditionally take some flak for things not working out or being precise... but we use these things to learn and have more fun next time. Keep up the good work! You have my respect, I will enter any future tournaments you have.
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I apologize if it seems like I'm trying to make your life miserable, but I'm really trying to help you. Mixing Stock and DSL is unfair for the reasons that JoeB said, and people shouldn't be winning or losing based on unintended upgrades/downgrades to their bots. I have tons of respect for anyone that spares time to do a service, like run any tourney, for the community.
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OK thanks guys i will attempt to redo the match in stock, now!
HELP! The bindings in my stock are strange:
(https://gametechmods.com/uploads/images/77357Untitled.jpg)
I origionally replaced the first line of the bindings which was for ALARM with an entries bindings, i then started the game and sure enough the entry was there but ALARM was there as well, even though i'd deleted the .bot file in the program files folder, ALARM had shifted to the second slot i tried to start a match with the entry and ALARM it crashes, can anyone tell me how to put in an entry in these bindings?
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1st option .. you dont need to use Alarm so just keep putting them in the game and never try a match with a stock bot (assuming this is a new RA2 install for this tournament)
2nd option... apply Starcore 3 to your stock ra2 and the bindings file is set out the same as DSL 2
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You don't have SC? That might have something to do with it, but I'm no expert.
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I dont know how ALARM is still there, but that other one most likely crashes because you dont have Omni.py in your AI folder.
(Yes I am back from my trip to Lapland and Norway)
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you need SC.
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*wonders if MV committed Hari Kari after all this*
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Right installed SC and unfortunatley an entry wich was working in DSL now doesent work in starcore, i need either JoeBlo to film this match too or i need people to accept the fact that i did it in DSL which one would you guys prefer.
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The stats are changed in DSL, so...I think it'd be unfair if you didn't do it again.
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as much as I want the DSL match to count it cant.. if I remember right I killed Pwnators bot in that match but in DSL Razors are stronger while the blue tribars weren't improved (to my knowledge) meaning Natural High could destroy them quicker
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actually, if a bot is made in stock, the razor tip uses the origional unchanged razortip1.txt but in DSL it is in the Styles folder as DSLrazortip1.txt
This means Stock bot should have nothing changed from what they were, exept wheels possibly? I havent paid attention to them, but I guess they are made in the sameway shinyhub.txt for stock and in DSL its DSLshinyhub.txt
Only difference in the .txt of stock parts is that they are hidden unless you use the cheatbot2 code.
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wow .. I never thought about that..(hope for me yet)
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Yup, SSG's right, and yes the wheels do change.
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I thought in stock a razor had 500hp and in DSL it had 1000hp...
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but what SSG was saying is that the razor txt in DSL is not the same one from stock
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right JB i'll PM you the bots, and again thanks for recording for me.
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NEW: The new versions of the first round rumbles are up on the website! (http://rodetournament.yolasite.com/)
just encase you dont check the first post of this thread ;-) the second rumble has now been filmed in stock and MV posted it
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where did you post it? all I see is the old rumbles.
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Rumble 2 has been replaced with the one filmed in stock.
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what about rumble 1?
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Rumble 1 was Stock already as MV and I split the work and I filmed rumble 1 in my clean stock.. just importing over the DSL Blade arena (since you have been away a bit I suggest you look over the last couple of pages a bit more :-))
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Apologies for this huge delay had a lot of things going on and i have ran into a problem, my computer doesent seem to want to download anything, can someone help?
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how about uploading ?
make up a template for the final match in WMM (i take it you use that) and zip it/ send it and I can make it all up for you....the only problem is uploading.. unless you want to give me your account details otherwise I can use my youtube account.
let me know what you want to do :-D
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I'd rather fix the downloading problem beacuse i need to download other stuff aswell
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the final is up on the website i have fixed my download problem, expect your prize shortly JoeBlo and thanks to all that participated in thsi tournament, wether you were a competitor or not :)
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nice video MV, the timing of with the music was done well :-D
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well thats it for the tournament folks, hope you guys enjoyed it, thank you one final time to all that contributed you guys rock!
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Can you release the bots in a .rar file. I kinda wanna test my bot against some other ones. :biggrin:
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Can you release the bots in a .rar file. I kinda wanna test my bot against some other ones. :biggrin:
Only if everyone else is ok with that.
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yeah go for it, mine got lucky it its first match so there will likely be some people that can beat it